Feedback: 1 day in I can already tell Trade Bars and the Bazaar are much better than previous model

Bo0137 · March 25

Props to the team. It's much much better than I anticipated.

1. Event tickets were too "small", you could not save too much and you received too little a day. Felt like not enough a reward. Trade bars are ""bigger"", seems like worth grinding.

2. Many and great rewards already. (I want more though)

3. Thank you for the skill styles being there! Where did those come from??? Can't have enough skill styles and I think farming them through events and such is awesome.

4. We need more stuff exclusive to the Bazaar. Previous "lost" items are cool and all but we need more incentive to specifically aim for trade bars and expect more rotations to the items offered. See WoW's Trading Post, for example. They have lots of exclusive stuff and I think that makes the system very special.

5. I can even foresee the battlepass thing being close to WoW's trading post system, which again, it's awesome. Doing small tasks as you please, farming trade bars, spending them at your will - chef's kiss! Again, we need more stuff exclusive to the Bazaar to make the system more engaging.

6. Customized actions too expensive. 3600 bars for a mining action? That doesn't make sense to me. It's almost the value of a mount. Skill styles on the other hand are very "fair" - 500 bars is very good in my opinion. But you can see the imbalance there.

Taking a minute of your attention: PLEASE fix the crown crates for Brazilians. I am a legal adult and I want to spend my money on you. Can we come to terms?? I will send you my ID if you need it

wolfie1.0. · March 25

Bo0137 wrote: »

Props to the team. It's much much better than I anticipated.

1. Event tickets were too "small", you could not save too much and you received too little a day. Felt like not enough a reward. Trade bars are ""bigger"", seems like worth grinding.

2. Many and great rewards already. (I want more though)

3. Thank you for the skill styles being there! Where did those come from??? Can't have enough skill styles and I think farming them through events and such is awesome.

4. We need more stuff exclusive to the Bazaar. Previous "lost" items are cool and all but we need more incentive to specifically aim for trade bars and expect more rotations to the items offered. See WoW's Trading Post, for example. They have lots of exclusive stuff and I think that makes the system very special.

5. I can even foresee the battlepass thing being close to WoW's trading post system, which again, it's awesome. Doing small tasks as you please, farming trade bars, spending them at your will - chef's kiss! Again, we need more stuff exclusive to the Bazaar to make the system more engaging.

6. Customized actions too expensive. 3600 bars for a mining action? That doesn't make sense to me. It's almost the value of a mount. Skill styles on the other hand are very "fair" - 500 bars is very good in my opinion. But you can see the imbalance there.

Taking a minute of your attention: PLEASE fix the crown crates for Brazilians. I am a legal adult and I want to spend my money on you. Can we come to terms?? I will send you my ID if you need it

3600 is actually on par with completed 4 piece items from events. Which will be 3000 or 4000

AcadianPaladin · March 25

I agree in that we now have more flexibility in spending. Specifically, more choices for extra trade bars / event tickets meaning I can save them, have more of a selection to buy from or can just save them instead of simply increasing my massive pile of group repair kits. Win-win I say.

Arunei · March 25

I'm curious to hop on and see what all is available, and wondering what else will be getting added next month. Also keep in mind that 100 Bars is the same as 1 Ticket when it comes to pricing, so the Mining thing being that much makes sense if prices are roughly based around how much this stuff would have costed using the old Morphing system and Tickets.

Also ZOS can't do anything about the Crown Crates. They aren't the ones that make the laws and they have to follow them. If you want to be able to buy Crates again you'll need to manage to get the government of Brazil to remove or amend the law.

Bo0137 · March 25

Arunei wrote: »

I'm curious to hop on and see what all is available, and wondering what else will be getting added next month. Also keep in mind that 100 Bars is the same as 1 Ticket when it comes to pricing, so the Mining thing being that much makes sense if prices are roughly based around how much this stuff would have costed using the old Morphing system and Tickets.

Also ZOS can't do anything about the Crown Crates. They aren't the ones that make the laws and they have to follow them. If you want to be able to buy Crates again you'll need to manage to get the government of Brazil to remove or amend the law.

Not quite. Nintendo and Riot Games came up with quite a smart fix: raise the age rating to 18+ of their games. It worked. And mind you: Nintendo does games for kids (and adults).

Arunei · March 25

Bo0137 wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I'm curious to hop on and see what all is available, and wondering what else will be getting added next month. Also keep in mind that 100 Bars is the same as 1 Ticket when it comes to pricing, so the Mining thing being that much makes sense if prices are roughly based around how much this stuff would have costed using the old Morphing system and Tickets.

Also ZOS can't do anything about the Crown Crates. They aren't the ones that make the laws and they have to follow them. If you want to be able to buy Crates again you'll need to manage to get the government of Brazil to remove or amend the law.

Not quite. Nintendo and Riot Games came up with quite a smart fix: raise the age rating to 18+ of their games. It worked. And mind you: Nintendo does games for kids (and adults).

ESO is already rated M, which is 18+. The only higher rating they could go to would be Adults Only, which DOES include "gambling with real money" as one of its topics. However I think Crates get around the legality of gambling because in general gambling means spending money without the guarantee of a reward, but with Crates you ALWAYS get something. It'll be all junk more often than not, yeah, but you still aren't spending money and getting nothing from it. Plus with Seals you can directly buy whatever is in any given Crate season (provided you have the Seals, yeah, and the costs are butt for how many you can earn).

That said, I don't think ZOS would be willing to bump up the game's rating to cover a legal thing their Crate and Seal system already address, even tho those systems both have their own issues. Considering there are other places that have banned loot boxes like Belgium and ZOS didn't change anything when that happened, it's very unlikely they will in this case either.

virtus753 · March 25

Arunei wrote: »

Bo0137 wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

I'm curious to hop on and see what all is available, and wondering what else will be getting added next month. Also keep in mind that 100 Bars is the same as 1 Ticket when it comes to pricing, so the Mining thing being that much makes sense if prices are roughly based around how much this stuff would have costed using the old Morphing system and Tickets.

Also ZOS can't do anything about the Crown Crates. They aren't the ones that make the laws and they have to follow them. If you want to be able to buy Crates again you'll need to manage to get the government of Brazil to remove or amend the law.

Not quite. Nintendo and Riot Games came up with quite a smart fix: raise the age rating to 18+ of their games. It worked. And mind you: Nintendo does games for kids (and adults).

ESO is already rated M, which is 18+.

M does not mean 18+ in the U.S. or Canada (17+) or in Australia or New Zealand (15+).

ESO is not M in Brazil. It is only 14.

The game is only 18+ in the PEGI and Russian ratings, which have no bearing on Brazil.

robwolf666 · March 26

Seems like Seals to me, "prices" so high it'll take forever to save up for anything good.
Let's hope there's plenty more sources for Trade Bars, and you get a decent amount.

AllenaNightWood · March 26

i would say some of the prices in the Bazaar are a little outlandish for some items

Blood_again · 10:40AM

Bo0137 wrote: »

4. We need more stuff exclusive to the Bazaar. Previous "lost" items are cool and all but we need more incentive to specifically aim for trade bars and expect more rotations to the items offered. See WoW's Trading Post, for example. They have lots of exclusive stuff and I think that makes the system very special.

Kind reminder that the current bazaar items are declared as regular, always available.
Seasonal content of the bazaar is planned for April 2, according to the game news:

The items you can acquire with Trade Bars are split between regularly available rewards and those that rotate each Season...
...more options coming to the Bazaar when Season Zero launches on April 2.

I can't find the exact quote, but the overall amount of future bazaar items mentioned was near 1000, if I remember correctly.
The current amount of items available is 97.
So we'll see way more variety soon, I guess.