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Can't buy Crown Crates from Brazil but it's up to ZOS to fix (please)
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✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Maturity ratings are not enforceable by law. But instead by industry agreements and common courtesy. It is not illegal to sell a game with an ESRB game rated M for mature to a minor. Therefore age verification isn't required by the game publisher. They may enact token efforts to do so, but that's typically just a simple effort to maintain a general all-around maturity level of the playerbase.
Effectively all it does is publicly announce the maturity level of the content found therein. There's really nothing legally binding behind it though.
Countries worldwide have different age rating systems, and in some countries they are enforcable by law (and a store selling, for example, a 18+ game to someone age 17 would have to pay a fine).@Syldras | PC | EU
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✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Maturity ratings are not enforceable by law. But instead by industry agreements and common courtesy. It is not illegal to sell a game with an ESRB game rated M for mature to a minor. Therefore age verification isn't required by the game publisher. They may enact token efforts to do so, but that's typically just a simple effort to maintain a general all-around maturity level of the playerbase.
Effectively all it does is publicly announce the maturity level of the content found therein. There's really nothing legally binding behind it though.
Countries worldwide have different age rating systems, and in some countries they are enforcable by law (and a store selling, for example, a 18+ game to someone age 17 would have to pay a fine).
Correct. However those laws pertain to the retailer within said countries, and not to the game publishers. In those situations, the onus to adhere is not on ZOS.
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✭✭✭✭✭SwordOfSagas wrote: »Government doing the parents job for them I guess, and by the way if kids have there own money to spend let them buy what they want, also is eso 18+ or am I imagining that.
It’s only 18+ in the PEGI (Europe minus Germany) and Russian rating systems, unless something has changed:
https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/#en/answer/26695
M is 15+ in ACB terms (Australia & New Zealand) and 17+ in ESRB terms (Canada & the U.S.).
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✭✭wolfie1.0. wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »Yeah, sorry, but I don't think we're getting crown crates again. It's easier for ZOS to just ban every Brazilian purchase than to verify we're actually not minors. The law also states loot boxes are banned from games geared towards children (up to 12 years) and teenagers (between 12 and 18) or games to which they're likely to have access. That pretty much includes ESO. Belgium's example indicates we'll have to spend our money elsewhere.
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The irony is that eso is technically supposed to be for 18+ audiences... not that anyone actually follows that.
Nope. It varies depending on country. In Brazil it is rated BR 14.PC EU
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FlameDark✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »randconfig wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »
That's not the real reason they're doing it. It's for mass surveillance and censorship, which is why everyone should be opposed to age verification laws. I would go into more details, but I don't think we're supposed to talk about irl stuff.
Who's pushing for surveillance and censorship? ZOS obviously isn't since they're not moving to implement any form of age verification. The two countries (Belgium and Brazil) aren't asking ZOS to do so. I'm not seeing any kind of grand conspiracy here.
Belgium doesn't need age verification laws, as loot boxes are banned for both adults and minors. They banned it for everyone. UNLESS the loot boxes are free. It is only loot boxes the player has to pay with real money that is banned outright.PC/NA CP 950 - PvE
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✭✭✭✭✭The age verification system has to be just a box to click to cover companies in case of lawsuits, it is an honor system. Any kid smart enough to do basic math can figure out how to get around it.
It doesn’t really address the problem, it just creates a small speed bump in the process.
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✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »randconfig wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »
That's not the real reason they're doing it. It's for mass surveillance and censorship, which is why everyone should be opposed to age verification laws. I would go into more details, but I don't think we're supposed to talk about irl stuff.
Who's pushing for surveillance and censorship? ZOS obviously isn't since they're not moving to implement any form of age verification. The two countries (Belgium and Brazil) aren't asking ZOS to do so. I'm not seeing any kind of grand conspiracy here.
Belgium doesn't need age verification laws, as loot boxes are banned for both adults and minors. They banned it for everyone. UNLESS the loot boxes are free. It is only loot boxes the player has to pay with real money that is banned outright.
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✭Why I have this feeling that things might end up like some "Dallas Buyer's Club"? (great movie, btw)
- "You're selling loot boxes!"
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Bo0137✭✭✭✭✭Advocating for crown crates to return to the store of adult Brazilians.
I am an adult, I want to spend the money I earn on crown crates.
ZOS can comply with Brazil's legislation and still sell crown crates to adults.0 -
randconfig✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »randconfig wrote: »Carcamongus wrote: »
That's not the real reason they're doing it. It's for mass surveillance and censorship, which is why everyone should be opposed to age verification laws. I would go into more details, but I don't think we're supposed to talk about irl stuff.
Who's pushing for surveillance and censorship? ZOS obviously isn't since they're not moving to implement any form of age verification. The two countries (Belgium and Brazil) aren't asking ZOS to do so. I'm not seeing any kind of grand conspiracy here.
If you're paying attention to anything happening irl, especially in the US, then you know.
Edit: I'm not going to discuss further since it's against ToS, just do any search about data privacy and mass surveillance if you'd like to be more informed on it.Edited by randconfig on March 23, 2026 3:44PM0