cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »
A pure stamsorc or a pure magsorc? The new dk hits hard asf but fundamentally it’s the same as it was before with the same combos and counters, either version of sorc your on should just be able to out kite with streak. Now I will say that dk kinda hard counters stamsorc and there isn’t a whole lot you can do other than run away so if your on a pure Stamsorc my advice is just to be in heavy with like wyrd tree or something and just work on not getting 1 tapped xD
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
It DOES work you just need to pull builds from previous metas.
I’m in 5 heavy 3 protective. Stuhn’s + wyrd tree + balorghs. Use the sorc class script with trav knife and off balance or swap stuhn’s for oakfathers or something and run vamp claw.
Either way as previously stated you need some pretty heavy armor investment and good negative effect clear if you wanna fight DKs
(I do use assassination over daedric most of the time because there’s no reason not to but curse + daedric knifes does still chunk people even tho the passives suck)
cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
It DOES work you just need to pull builds from previous metas.
I’m in 5 heavy 3 protective. Stuhn’s + wyrd tree + balorghs. Use the sorc class script with trav knife and off balance or swap stuhn’s for oakfathers or something and run vamp claw.
Either way as previously stated you need some pretty heavy armor investment and good negative effect clear if you wanna fight DKs
(I do use assassination over daedric most of the time because there’s no reason not to but curse + daedric knifes does still chunk people even tho the passives suck)
Until you fight a good DK and he nukes you with 11-12k Whips on top of other damage skills while you’re in 4 defense CPs, 35k armor, 4.5k crit resist, Major + Minor Protection, Major + Minor Maim, and 10% unnamed mitigation. Look, I’m telling you it doesn’t work. I can kill average DKs all day long but the power disparity is very noticeable as you fight better DKs who run proper builds and are also good at the class.
TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »Why are ZOS waiting so long to update the other classes? leave the visual update for another time and just make the skill changes now, this is not healthy for the game.
nightbringer1993 wrote: »As a necro main , I am still outraged they placed Necro last on the list excluding arcanist. Four years of nerfs and we are once again told to play other classes.
“Play how you want”, what a lie.
cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
It DOES work you just need to pull builds from previous metas.
I’m in 5 heavy 3 protective. Stuhn’s + wyrd tree + balorghs. Use the sorc class script with trav knife and off balance or swap stuhn’s for oakfathers or something and run vamp claw.
Either way as previously stated you need some pretty heavy armor investment and good negative effect clear if you wanna fight DKs
(I do use assassination over daedric most of the time because there’s no reason not to but curse + daedric knifes does still chunk people even tho the passives suck)
Until you fight a good DK and he nukes you with 11-12k Whips on top of other damage skills while you’re in 4 defense CPs, 35k armor, 4.5k crit resist, Major + Minor Protection, Major + Minor Maim, and 10% unnamed mitigation. Look, I’m telling you it doesn’t work. I can kill average DKs all day long but the power disparity is very noticeable as you fight better DKs who run proper builds and are also good at the class.
Yea there’s no good fix really, but there never has been because stamsorc has never been a real class. You have absolutely no tools to deal with anyone unless you outsource, this is how stamsorc has always been and anytime we find a super good combination of outside damage or defensive tools they are swiftly nerfed and taken away from us.
My advice is to either suck it up and play the tank sorc blade or reroll like everyone else.
Welcome to eso, this is why we all have 10 characters
cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »
Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
It DOES work you just need to pull builds from previous metas.
I’m in 5 heavy 3 protective. Stuhn’s + wyrd tree + balorghs. Use the sorc class script with trav knife and off balance or swap stuhn’s for oakfathers or something and run vamp claw.
Either way as previously stated you need some pretty heavy armor investment and good negative effect clear if you wanna fight DKs
(I do use assassination over daedric most of the time because there’s no reason not to but curse + daedric knifes does still chunk people even tho the passives suck)
Until you fight a good DK and he nukes you with 11-12k Whips on top of other damage skills while you’re in 4 defense CPs, 35k armor, 4.5k crit resist, Major + Minor Protection, Major + Minor Maim, and 10% unnamed mitigation. Look, I’m telling you it doesn’t work. I can kill average DKs all day long but the power disparity is very noticeable as you fight better DKs who run proper builds and are also good at the class.
Yea there’s no good fix really, but there never has been because stamsorc has never been a real class. You have absolutely no tools to deal with anyone unless you outsource, this is how stamsorc has always been and anytime we find a super good combination of outside damage or defensive tools they are swiftly nerfed and taken away from us.
My advice is to either suck it up and play the tank sorc blade or reroll like everyone else.
Welcome to eso, this is why we all have 10 characters

My StamSorc friend running Assassination + Storm Calling + Dark Magic had this to say:cuddles_with_wroble wrote: »My advice is to either suck it up and play the tank sorc blade or reroll like everyone else

Played some pure sorc (sithis disdain rallying) this patch, still works absolutely fine if you play ranged, as all the DK builds are melee range ones.
There's also a lot of avenues to subclass into DK skill lines for strong builds, warden charm with Northern Storm & Power Lash for example works very well. In case of sorc, you can actually sustain using DW scribe as spammable with Heart of Flame and put an Off Balance affix there for easy Power Lashes.
I'd try thinking outside the box a little bit.
Okay first of all, outside the box? What are you going to do against DKs that slot wings? 50% less damage on your attacks for no reason.
Second of all, by telling me to subclass into DK you’re basically saying it’s a necessity. That is no different than being forced to run Animal/Assassination last patch.
I want to remain pure sorc, and it WORKED last patch. This patch, I cannot be a pure sorc because a lot of people are DK, and DK is miles ahead of everything else.
Returning PvP-Player here. Quit PvP after they announced subclassing, returned when I heard about the coming pure class buffs. But after playing with my magplar and getting absolutely nuked by dks, I don't even want to imagine how OP they will be with those buffs on top.
I don't think they'll be able to balance this game at this point. Just going to enjoy the other aspects of the game, PvP is just not fun anymore unless you play meta ig.
BXR_Lonestar wrote: »Returning PvP-Player here. Quit PvP after they announced subclassing, returned when I heard about the coming pure class buffs. But after playing with my magplar and getting absolutely nuked by dks, I don't even want to imagine how OP they will be with those buffs on top.
I don't think they'll be able to balance this game at this point. Just going to enjoy the other aspects of the game, PvP is just not fun anymore unless you play meta ig.
They're trying to tapdance around subclassing. They know subclassing is broken, but because there are some people who like it, they either lack the authority or the resolve to admit that subclassing was a mistake and to remove it (along with other mistakes like scribing and hybridization), and so the only way they can make pureclassing more attractive is if they make pureclassing broken-strong too. Because they're not nerfing what pure-classing is competing against, they're just trying to one-up it. So it was always going to be this way.
And it is just going to be like Destiny's revolving meta with the way they are going to keep releasing updates to pureclass - every class will get its day so to speak, and everyone will be playing those classes.
While I think the pure class updates are a great step in the right direction, I don't think they can fix this game while they continue to leave things they KNOW are a problem broken and still in the game. So I've dialed back how much I'm playing the game, and may end up focusing on other single player games or other ES Titles.
nightbringer1993 wrote: »As a necro main , I am still outraged they placed Necro last on the list excluding arcanist. Four years of nerfs and we are once again told to play other classes.
“Play how you want”, what a lie.
Yea, it’s outrageous that classes aren’t being updated simultaneously