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Permanent Skill Effects Are Ruining Weapon Visuals
Athory
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Hey all!
In the last few months I’ve been very, very critical of ESO and everything ZOS has done with the game in some aspects, especially with Subclassing, Scribing, and other changes. But it seems like you're working to fix a lot of that mess, and that’s great!
The work you did with the Dragon Knight was amazing. Really nice job!
But please, @Zos_Kevin, please pass this message to the design team because of this:
Please… someone stop this. Just stop.
There are people on the team who create amazing weapons for us in-game. The designs are fantastic, and some of these weapons we even buy with Crowns in the store. So why does ZOS add effects to our weapons that end up hiding the models we actually paid for?
Even if players believe these effects look nice at first, sooner or later they get tired of them, and we can’t change/hide them.
Please… someone… stop this. We don’t need effects like this. Just stop it, please.
Don’t add these “permanent” effects to our weapons just because we use one skill.
In the last few months I’ve been very, very critical of ESO and everything ZOS has done with the game in some aspects, especially with Subclassing, Scribing, and other changes. But it seems like you're working to fix a lot of that mess, and that’s great!
The work you did with the Dragon Knight was amazing. Really nice job!
But please, @Zos_Kevin, please pass this message to the design team because of this:
Please… someone stop this. Just stop.
There are people on the team who create amazing weapons for us in-game. The designs are fantastic, and some of these weapons we even buy with Crowns in the store. So why does ZOS add effects to our weapons that end up hiding the models we actually paid for?
Even if players believe these effects look nice at first, sooner or later they get tired of them, and we can’t change/hide them.
Please… someone… stop this. We don’t need effects like this. Just stop it, please.
Don’t add these “permanent” effects to our weapons just because we use one skill.
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*** This guild is exclusively for players who prefer alternative playstyles such as Onebar builds, Heavy Attack builds (HA), or using items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul Ring. ***
*** We are building a group of players who simply want to enjoy the game, learn mechanics at their own pace, and improve naturally over time.
No pressure, no strict meta requirements, no 120k parses — just steady progress and clear understanding of mechanics.
Our goal is simple:
First we learn → then we become consistent → then we get faster → and when the group truly feels ready, we push into Hard Modes together.
*** Minimum requirement: CP800.
This ensures everyone has the baseline stats needed for HM content and helps us maintain a strong, capable team.
*** We value teamwork, respect, patience, and a positive attitude above all else.
Everyone is here to improve — no ego, no toxicity.
If you're looking for a guild where you can grow, feel comfortable, and still clear some of the hardest content ESO has to offer, this is your place.
Recruitment Headline
*** In this guild, we don’t care if you parse 70k less or 200k more than others.
We don’t care about numbers at all — what matters is handling mechanics:
exploding curses outside the group in vRG, swapping mirrors, doing assignments correctly, and keeping runs clean.
By around CP800, any player can reach ~60–70k DPS baseline, and that’s enough to complete almost any trial HM.
For trifectas, yes, we push DPS because of timers — but for Hard Modes, we take our time without pressure.
If you can handle mechanics, you’re welcome here. ***
Why this?
If you don’t want random players, then don’t ask for them. Build your roster on Discord — not on Group Finder.*** This guild is exclusively for players who prefer alternative playstyles such as Onebar builds, Heavy Attack builds (HA), or using items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul Ring. ***
- Do you ever feel discouraged when you see “no HA players” or “no Oakensoul players” in Group Finder?
- Do you avoid joining groups because you're worried about being judged or kicked?
Then this is exactly where you belong.
*** We are building a group of players who simply want to enjoy the game, learn mechanics at their own pace, and improve naturally over time.
No pressure, no strict meta requirements, no 120k parses — just steady progress and clear understanding of mechanics.
Our goal is simple:
First we learn → then we become consistent → then we get faster → and when the group truly feels ready, we push into Hard Modes together.
*** Minimum requirement: CP800.
This ensures everyone has the baseline stats needed for HM content and helps us maintain a strong, capable team.
*** We value teamwork, respect, patience, and a positive attitude above all else.
Everyone is here to improve — no ego, no toxicity.
If you're looking for a guild where you can grow, feel comfortable, and still clear some of the hardest content ESO has to offer, this is your place.
"WE DON'T USE DISCORD!"
Recruitment Headline
*** In this guild, we don’t care if you parse 70k less or 200k more than others.
We don’t care about numbers at all — what matters is handling mechanics:
exploding curses outside the group in vRG, swapping mirrors, doing assignments correctly, and keeping runs clean.
By around CP800, any player can reach ~60–70k DPS baseline, and that’s enough to complete almost any trial HM.
For trifectas, yes, we push DPS because of timers — but for Hard Modes, we take our time without pressure.
If you can handle mechanics, you’re welcome here. ***
/!\"I have zero tolerance for toxicity regarding other players’ builds or DPS. If you don’t like someone’s setup for any reason, you’re free to leave the group. But if you choose to stay, then support others in every way you can." - @Zaan’s
Why this?
I allways run GF to help others since I already have all trial items. But, I noticed: most groups are full of 2bar players doing lowers DPS then 1bar players, and RD keep gatekeeping 1bar players for no reason at all.
It made me realize I’ve been spending my time helping the wrong players. 2bar players don’t need my help, 1bar players need.
It made me realize I’ve been spending my time helping the wrong players. 2bar players don’t need my help, 1bar players need.
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opaj✭✭✭✭✭
✭The Molten Weapons look cool, but yeah, I choose my weapon styles carefully.
There's only one character of mine who will continue to use the updated Molten Weapons...and that is a gimmicky unarmed character who doesn't use weapons to begin with.4 -
Malyore✭✭✭✭✭
✭This also goes for crown store weapon packs. There have been many that I don't buy just because they have a VFX. With ZOS introducing a toggle for this soon, it means there are weapon styles I would have wanted from the past, but no longer have access too.
Hopefully the toggle can be used on permanent skill VFX as well.2 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey all!
In the last few months I’ve been very, very critical of ESO and everything ZOS has done with the game in some aspects, especially with Subclassing, Scribing, and other changes. But it seems like you're working to fix a lot of that mess, and that’s great!
The work you did with the Dragon Knight was amazing. Really nice job!
But please, @Zos_Kevin, please pass this message to the design team because of this:
Please… someone stop this. Just stop.
There are people on the team who create amazing weapons for us in-game. The designs are fantastic, and some of these weapons we even buy with Crowns in the store. So why does ZOS add effects to our weapons that end up hiding the models we actually paid for?
Even if players believe these effects look nice at first, sooner or later they get tired of them, and we can’t change/hide them.
Please… someone… stop this. We don’t need effects like this. Just stop it, please.
Don’t add these “permanent” effects to our weapons just because we use one skill.
A lead dev has already responded with an acknowledgment:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8440879#Comment_8440879Edited by virtus753 on March 13, 2026 1:10AM1 -
Athory✭✭✭Oh ok, I didn’t see that. Thank God they’re looking at this, and I truly hope they completely abandon the idea of hiding our weapons with effects.:: [Guild: Tamriel Order] :: Exclusively for players using One‑Bar / HA builds, or items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul RingAbout UsIf you don’t want random players, then don’t ask for them. Build your roster on Discord — not on Group Finder.
*** This guild is exclusively for players who prefer alternative playstyles such as Onebar builds, Heavy Attack builds (HA), or using items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul Ring. ***- Do you ever feel discouraged when you see “no HA players” or “no Oakensoul players” in Group Finder?
- Do you avoid joining groups because you're worried about being judged or kicked?
Then this is exactly where you belong.
*** We are building a group of players who simply want to enjoy the game, learn mechanics at their own pace, and improve naturally over time.
No pressure, no strict meta requirements, no 120k parses — just steady progress and clear understanding of mechanics.
Our goal is simple:
First we learn → then we become consistent → then we get faster → and when the group truly feels ready, we push into Hard Modes together.
*** Minimum requirement: CP800.
This ensures everyone has the baseline stats needed for HM content and helps us maintain a strong, capable team.
*** We value teamwork, respect, patience, and a positive attitude above all else.
Everyone is here to improve — no ego, no toxicity.
If you're looking for a guild where you can grow, feel comfortable, and still clear some of the hardest content ESO has to offer, this is your place."WE DON'T USE DISCORD!"
Recruitment Headline
*** In this guild, we don’t care if you parse 70k less or 200k more than others.
We don’t care about numbers at all — what matters is handling mechanics:
exploding curses outside the group in vRG, swapping mirrors, doing assignments correctly, and keeping runs clean.
By around CP800, any player can reach ~60–70k DPS baseline, and that’s enough to complete almost any trial HM.
For trifectas, yes, we push DPS because of timers — but for Hard Modes, we take our time without pressure.
If you can handle mechanics, you’re welcome here. ***/!\"I have zero tolerance for toxicity regarding other players’ builds or DPS. If you don’t like someone’s setup for any reason, you’re free to leave the group. But if you choose to stay, then support others in every way you can." - @Zaan’s
Why this?I allways run GF to help others since I already have all trial items. But, I noticed: most groups are full of 2bar players doing lowers DPS then 1bar players, and RD keep gatekeeping 1bar players for no reason at all.
It made me realize I’ve been spending my time helping the wrong players. 2bar players don’t need my help, 1bar players need.3 -
Major_Toughness✭✭✭✭✭Great you lot ruined Grim Focus now you're going to ruin this really cool Molten Armaments design.
ZoS should just implement a toggle for these effects rather than getting rid of them. I'm glad there are skill effects in the game which actually promote the identity of the class I am playing.MAKE AZUREBLIGHT GREAT AGAIN
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Athory✭✭✭Major_Toughness wrote: »Great you lot ruined Grim Focus now you're going to ruin this really cool Molten Armaments design.
ZoS should just implement a toggle for these effects rather than getting rid of them. I'm glad there are skill effects in the game which actually promote the identity of the class I am playing.
They don’t need to get rid of the effects entirely. The problem is how big and intrusive they are. When the effect covers all the weapon, it ends up hiding the weapon style and motifs we actually paid for.
ZoS could easily keep the class identity while making the effect smaller or less opaque, so it still looks cool without completely covering the weapon.
And honestly, the best solution would be a toggle option for effects. That way people who like the big flashy visuals can keep them, and those of us who want to actually see the weapon styles and motifs we bought can do that too. Everyone wins.:: [Guild: Tamriel Order] :: Exclusively for players using One‑Bar / HA builds, or items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul RingAbout UsIf you don’t want random players, then don’t ask for them. Build your roster on Discord — not on Group Finder.
*** This guild is exclusively for players who prefer alternative playstyles such as Onebar builds, Heavy Attack builds (HA), or using items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul Ring. ***- Do you ever feel discouraged when you see “no HA players” or “no Oakensoul players” in Group Finder?
- Do you avoid joining groups because you're worried about being judged or kicked?
Then this is exactly where you belong.
*** We are building a group of players who simply want to enjoy the game, learn mechanics at their own pace, and improve naturally over time.
No pressure, no strict meta requirements, no 120k parses — just steady progress and clear understanding of mechanics.
Our goal is simple:
First we learn → then we become consistent → then we get faster → and when the group truly feels ready, we push into Hard Modes together.
*** Minimum requirement: CP800.
This ensures everyone has the baseline stats needed for HM content and helps us maintain a strong, capable team.
*** We value teamwork, respect, patience, and a positive attitude above all else.
Everyone is here to improve — no ego, no toxicity.
If you're looking for a guild where you can grow, feel comfortable, and still clear some of the hardest content ESO has to offer, this is your place."WE DON'T USE DISCORD!"
Recruitment Headline
*** In this guild, we don’t care if you parse 70k less or 200k more than others.
We don’t care about numbers at all — what matters is handling mechanics:
exploding curses outside the group in vRG, swapping mirrors, doing assignments correctly, and keeping runs clean.
By around CP800, any player can reach ~60–70k DPS baseline, and that’s enough to complete almost any trial HM.
For trifectas, yes, we push DPS because of timers — but for Hard Modes, we take our time without pressure.
If you can handle mechanics, you’re welcome here. ***/!\"I have zero tolerance for toxicity regarding other players’ builds or DPS. If you don’t like someone’s setup for any reason, you’re free to leave the group. But if you choose to stay, then support others in every way you can." - @Zaan’s
Why this?I allways run GF to help others since I already have all trial items. But, I noticed: most groups are full of 2bar players doing lowers DPS then 1bar players, and RD keep gatekeeping 1bar players for no reason at all.
It made me realize I’ve been spending my time helping the wrong players. 2bar players don’t need my help, 1bar players need.8 -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, imagine you bought a cool flaming sword from the crownstore for your DK because you expected that the DK refresh would be a big success and then you can't even see it in combat because you have these glowy paddles that look like they dropped straight from Ragnaros in World of Warcraft.
I think the current look should be turned into a skill style (or an outfit style), because I know there are people who like them. However the default should be kept more subtle than this, especially because Molten Armaments isn't actually that strong of a skill.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.8 -
Emeratis✭✭✭✭✭I personally would prefer a settings toggle because there are times the weapon effects are annoying and times I want them to be longer personally. I do understand and agree sometimes I prefer to see my weapon skins and track my bar based on the style I put on them if I'm running two staves like on a healer. On the other hand, one of my big pain points is trying to get a perfect screenshot using a buff or spell effect only for it to fall off before you line up the shot perfectly. The latter could be remedied by my frequent request of a possible screenshot mode where we can pause animations and toggle effects though.1 -
emilyhyoyeon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My issue with a toggle for ''effects'' is that theres many things I'd want to hide/turn off, but also things I don't want to turn off.
It would suck to have to deal with the new DK molten armaments visual just because I might want to keep the visual effect of an arms pack where my choices would then be: use the molten visual or lose the visual on the arms pack.
If certain things were split up, how would the devs draw the line? How many individual toggles for different types of effects could they even add? Realistically I could only see a toggle distinction between skills and cosmetics; as in, a blanket toggle for on/off all skills effects and another toggle for on/off all cosmetic effects.IGN @ emilypumpkin
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Number_51✭✭✭✭✭Could be a per character setting similar to "Hide Mount Stamina Upgrade," "Hide Mount Speed Upgrade," and "Hide Mount Capacity Upgrade". Use "Hide Weapon Effect" and "Hide Armor Effect". On that note, I'd kill for a "Hide Mount Effect". No more flashbangs.1
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Athory✭✭✭As @Ratzkifal said, I believe the best solution would be to turn all these weapon effects, like Molten Weapon, Inspired Scholarship, etc., into Skill Styles. We already have this feature in the game, so I believe ZoS could implement this change very easily. Even better, they could add them to the Crown Store, the market, and so on… but without forcing the skill to overwrite the motifs we love.
:: [Guild: Tamriel Order] :: Exclusively for players using One‑Bar / HA builds, or items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul RingAbout UsIf you don’t want random players, then don’t ask for them. Build your roster on Discord — not on Group Finder.
*** This guild is exclusively for players who prefer alternative playstyles such as Onebar builds, Heavy Attack builds (HA), or using items like Rakkhat's Voidmantle or Oakensoul Ring. ***- Do you ever feel discouraged when you see “no HA players” or “no Oakensoul players” in Group Finder?
- Do you avoid joining groups because you're worried about being judged or kicked?
Then this is exactly where you belong.
*** We are building a group of players who simply want to enjoy the game, learn mechanics at their own pace, and improve naturally over time.
No pressure, no strict meta requirements, no 120k parses — just steady progress and clear understanding of mechanics.
Our goal is simple:
First we learn → then we become consistent → then we get faster → and when the group truly feels ready, we push into Hard Modes together.
*** Minimum requirement: CP800.
This ensures everyone has the baseline stats needed for HM content and helps us maintain a strong, capable team.
*** We value teamwork, respect, patience, and a positive attitude above all else.
Everyone is here to improve — no ego, no toxicity.
If you're looking for a guild where you can grow, feel comfortable, and still clear some of the hardest content ESO has to offer, this is your place."WE DON'T USE DISCORD!"
Recruitment Headline
*** In this guild, we don’t care if you parse 70k less or 200k more than others.
We don’t care about numbers at all — what matters is handling mechanics:
exploding curses outside the group in vRG, swapping mirrors, doing assignments correctly, and keeping runs clean.
By around CP800, any player can reach ~60–70k DPS baseline, and that’s enough to complete almost any trial HM.
For trifectas, yes, we push DPS because of timers — but for Hard Modes, we take our time without pressure.
If you can handle mechanics, you’re welcome here. ***/!\"I have zero tolerance for toxicity regarding other players’ builds or DPS. If you don’t like someone’s setup for any reason, you’re free to leave the group. But if you choose to stay, then support others in every way you can." - @Zaan’s
Why this?I allways run GF to help others since I already have all trial items. But, I noticed: most groups are full of 2bar players doing lowers DPS then 1bar players, and RD keep gatekeeping 1bar players for no reason at all.
It made me realize I’ve been spending my time helping the wrong players. 2bar players don’t need my help, 1bar players need.2 -
katanagirl1✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As @Ratzkifal said, I believe the best solution would be to turn all these weapon effects, like Molten Weapon, Inspired Scholarship, etc., into Skill Styles. We already have this feature in the game, so I believe ZoS could implement this change very easily. Even better, they could add them to the Crown Store, the market, and so on… but without forcing the skill to overwrite the motifs we love.
This seems like a solution that makes everyone happy and generates more money for ZOS. I can’t see why they aren’t doing this already.
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