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Fire and Shock Reach

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A couple patches ago, Frost reach got its direct damage tooltip buffed to spammable level and finally found some uses, mostly on warden with the master ice staff as they have passives specific to the ice staff. Sadly Fire and Shock reach didn't receive the same treatment even though they were (and still are) just as useless.
Classes other than warden have no such synergy with the ice staff and would rather use a fire/lightning staff as their offensive weapon, so can Fire and Shock reach please receive the same buff Frost reach got?

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  • ViggyBoi
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    I would love this mostly because flame reach has a cool ass animation. Honestly wish its damage was tweaked to be more front loaded cuz the flaming wheel projectile being a regular spammable instead of occasional CC I would love to see. In all honesty im not even sure what the point of the reach morphs are. Do they just exist to be elemental flavor dots? They aren't worth the cast in any regard from my experience outside of masters staves and even still its only frost thats strong enough
    Edited by ViggyBoi on March 8, 2026 3:07AM
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    I totally agree. @MashmalloMan and i were talking about this a few weeks ago. They should increase the upfront damage of flame and shock reach by 80% to match frost reach, its only fair and gets rid of a strange outlier case, frost reach wasn't buffed to make it specifically better. It was buffed to give frost dps a spammable. I see no reason why the same luxury shouldn't be offered to shock sorcerers and ranged flame dps players. They would be frothing at the mouth to get a great spammable with that procs masters destro staff.

    Destructive reach is not a good damage over time ability, but that does not mean it can't be a great spammable.

    This speaks to a greater problem with the destruction staff as a whole. Theres a lot of issues that need addressing. And while the visuals definitely need an update, the balance of the skills are far more pressing. Honestly i'm going to design a whole rework i'd like to see.

    Stay tuned for a whole post everyone.
    Edited by ESO_Nightingale on March 8, 2026 7:50AM
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  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have closed this topic as it was originally created in July 2023. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

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