Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.


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Those of us who have funded ZoS by buying chapters and subscribing are also devalued - as above, this started with last year and seems set to continue.
BretonMage wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »All new content is free so if you're paying for content the game is a lot cheaper now.
Are we even getting new content this year? I know Kevin said that we're not getting a new zone this year. So far the only content I'm hearing about is the TG and Sheogorathquests, which seems pretty sparse.
BretonMage wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »All new content is free so if you're paying for content the game is a lot cheaper now.
Are we even getting new content this year? I know Kevin said that we're not getting a new zone this year. So far the only content I'm hearing about is the TG and Sheogorathquests, which seems pretty sparse.
We do have new content this year. We will have a stream in a few weeks to go a bit more in-depth. We have some new gameplay systems, more quests, new quality of life systems, a new trail, and adding solo dungeon variants of two existing dungeons. You'll hear/ see some of this stuff off in the coming weeks and coming months as things get to a semi-presentable state. That's for the teams to show off.
BretonMage wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »All new content is free so if you're paying for content the game is a lot cheaper now.
Are we even getting new content this year? I know Kevin said that we're not getting a new zone this year. So far the only content I'm hearing about is the TG and Sheogorathquests, which seems pretty sparse.
We do have new content this year. We will have a stream in a few weeks to go a bit more in-depth. We have some new gameplay systems, more quests, new quality of life systems, a new trail, and adding solo dungeon variants of two existing dungeons. You'll hear/ see some of this stuff off in the coming weeks and coming months as things get to a semi-presentable state. That's for the teams to show off.
BretonMage wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »All new content is free so if you're paying for content the game is a lot cheaper now.
Are we even getting new content this year? I know Kevin said that we're not getting a new zone this year. So far the only content I'm hearing about is the TG and Sheogorathquests, which seems pretty sparse.
We do have new content this year. We will have a stream in a few weeks to go a bit more in-depth. We have some new gameplay systems, more quests, new quality of life systems, a new trail, and adding solo dungeon variants of two existing dungeons. You'll hear/ see some of this stuff off in the coming weeks and coming months as things get to a semi-presentable state. That's for the teams to show off.
I still don't get why ESO+ is still giving a stipend of Crowns, if cosmetics and stuff is going to be gotten with the Tomes currency and you cannot use Crowns to get Tomes, what are the Crowns good for?
Why make the tomes so confusing with premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes? it seems like a FOMO of tactic.
I still don't get why ESO+ is still giving a stipend of Crowns, if cosmetics and stuff is going to be gotten with the Tomes currency and you cannot use Crowns to get Tomes, what are the Crowns good for?
Why make the tomes so confusing with premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes? it seems like a FOMO of tactic.
Because not ALL 'cosmetics and stuff' is going to be available with Tomes, Tomes are for the battle pass items... Crowns are for the in-game store items. You can't buy Crown Store items with Tomes and vice-versa.
Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
It's a little confusing but imo the stream slides did the best job at an overview and the articles and further talking was a bit more convoluted:
There are three tiers. Free is accessible to everyone and is supposed to give comparable rewards if not slightly better than the old endeavor system. Premium gives the paid track which is a lot of cosmetics and bonus premium currencies such as seals. Premium+ gives faster pass xp as well as bonus cosmetics bundled and related to the theme. You can see some of the bundle cosmetics in slide two. If you buy either premium version you can unlock things on the reward track permanently at your own pace, but free tomes will have a sesaonal duration.
ESO+ will gain additional pass xp and after 12 months of ESO+ you earn credit to get one Premium+ pass for free. Personally this is where I get annoyed with the new system and I think they could afford to be more generous since ESO+ has bled value in recent years but it is what it is. Price points for tomes are $15-30usd per season. 2026 is going to have three I think? So eso+ players should get one for free if they are a yearly subscriber.
Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
It's a little confusing but imo the stream slides did the best job at an overview and the articles and further talking was a bit more convoluted:
There are three tiers. Free is accessible to everyone and is supposed to give comparable rewards if not slightly better than the old endeavor system. Premium gives the paid track which is a lot of cosmetics and bonus premium currencies such as seals. Premium+ gives faster pass xp as well as bonus cosmetics bundled and related to the theme. You can see some of the bundle cosmetics in slide two. If you buy either premium version you can unlock things on the reward track permanently at your own pace, but free tomes will have a sesaonal duration.
ESO+ will gain additional pass xp and after 12 months of ESO+ you earn credit to get one Premium+ pass for free. Personally this is where I get annoyed with the new system and I think they could afford to be more generous since ESO+ has bled value in recent years but it is what it is. Price points for tomes are $15-30usd per season. 2026 is going to have three I think? So eso+ players should get one for free if they are a yearly subscriber.
Thanks, I see OP's point now and agree.
So, it's basically a double sub. I think I'll pass on the paid battle pass and plus plus paid battle pass because ESO has cost me a lot already, not just with money, but it's cost a lot of time as well.
SpiritofESO wrote: »Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
It's a little confusing but imo the stream slides did the best job at an overview and the articles and further talking was a bit more convoluted:
There are three tiers. Free is accessible to everyone and is supposed to give comparable rewards if not slightly better than the old endeavor system. Premium gives the paid track which is a lot of cosmetics and bonus premium currencies such as seals. Premium+ gives faster pass xp as well as bonus cosmetics bundled and related to the theme. You can see some of the bundle cosmetics in slide two. If you buy either premium version you can unlock things on the reward track permanently at your own pace, but free tomes will have a sesaonal duration.
ESO+ will gain additional pass xp and after 12 months of ESO+ you earn credit to get one Premium+ pass for free. Personally this is where I get annoyed with the new system and I think they could afford to be more generous since ESO+ has bled value in recent years but it is what it is. Price points for tomes are $15-30usd per season. 2026 is going to have three I think? So eso+ players should get one for free if they are a yearly subscriber.
Thanks, I see OP's point now and agree.
So, it's basically a double sub. I think I'll pass on the paid battle pass and plus plus paid battle pass because ESO has cost me a lot already, not just with money, but it's cost a lot of time as well.
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I think it's more like:
12 Premium Tome Tokens: This is the big win. Since 12 tokens equals one Premium+ Tome, your annual sub essentially pays for one full "Battle Pass" season (the $30 tier) every year for free.
So, pay for the annual ESO Plus subscription in one lump sum (credit card) and get the premium tokens all together. And that's your free Battle Pass for the year!
After subscribing to ESO+ for a FULL YEAR you have enough to trade in for ONE premium battle pass.SpiritofESO wrote: »Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
It's a little confusing but imo the stream slides did the best job at an overview and the articles and further talking was a bit more convoluted:
There are three tiers. Free is accessible to everyone and is supposed to give comparable rewards if not slightly better than the old endeavor system. Premium gives the paid track which is a lot of cosmetics and bonus premium currencies such as seals. Premium+ gives faster pass xp as well as bonus cosmetics bundled and related to the theme. You can see some of the bundle cosmetics in slide two. If you buy either premium version you can unlock things on the reward track permanently at your own pace, but free tomes will have a sesaonal duration.
ESO+ will gain additional pass xp and after 12 months of ESO+ you earn credit to get one Premium+ pass for free. Personally this is where I get annoyed with the new system and I think they could afford to be more generous since ESO+ has bled value in recent years but it is what it is. Price points for tomes are $15-30usd per season. 2026 is going to have three I think? So eso+ players should get one for free if they are a yearly subscriber.
Thanks, I see OP's point now and agree.
So, it's basically a double sub. I think I'll pass on the paid battle pass and plus plus paid battle pass because ESO has cost me a lot already, not just with money, but it's cost a lot of time as well.
~~~
I think it's more like:
12 Premium Tome Tokens: This is the big win. Since 12 tokens equals one Premium+ Tome, your annual sub essentially pays for one full "Battle Pass" season (the $30 tier) every year for free.
So, pay for the annual ESO Plus subscription in one lump sum (credit card) and get the premium tokens all together. And that's your free Battle Pass for the year!
SpiritofESO wrote: »Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
It's a little confusing but imo the stream slides did the best job at an overview and the articles and further talking was a bit more convoluted:
There are three tiers. Free is accessible to everyone and is supposed to give comparable rewards if not slightly better than the old endeavor system. Premium gives the paid track which is a lot of cosmetics and bonus premium currencies such as seals. Premium+ gives faster pass xp as well as bonus cosmetics bundled and related to the theme. You can see some of the bundle cosmetics in slide two. If you buy either premium version you can unlock things on the reward track permanently at your own pace, but free tomes will have a sesaonal duration.
ESO+ will gain additional pass xp and after 12 months of ESO+ you earn credit to get one Premium+ pass for free. Personally this is where I get annoyed with the new system and I think they could afford to be more generous since ESO+ has bled value in recent years but it is what it is. Price points for tomes are $15-30usd per season. 2026 is going to have three I think? So eso+ players should get one for free if they are a yearly subscriber.
Thanks, I see OP's point now and agree.
So, it's basically a double sub. I think I'll pass on the paid battle pass and plus plus paid battle pass because ESO has cost me a lot already, not just with money, but it's cost a lot of time as well.
~~~
I think it's more like:
12 Premium Tome Tokens: This is the big win. Since 12 tokens equals one Premium+ Tome, your annual sub essentially pays for one full "Battle Pass" season (the $30 tier) every year for free.
So, pay for the annual ESO Plus subscription in one lump sum (credit card) and get the premium tokens all together. And that's your free Battle Pass for the year!
SpiritofESO wrote: »Just when I thought I had Tomes figured out...
I thought the premium version of Tomes was going to be a part of ESO+. No? Is premium Tomes a separate thing we have to pay for? Also, premium Tomes and premium plus Tomes is confusing.
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