Golden pursuit rank skill line

LootAllTheStuff · March 4

HorrorShow wrote: »

Think mine is broken. 9/8 on Better Together. Tells me I have a reward to claim but I can't claim anything.

Have 23 hours remaining on the Returning Player Rewards which is probably the issue.

Check the full list

Orbital78 wrote: »

I guess it is good I have at least two low level mules. At this point I have hit 3600 and still have hundreds of xp scrolls though.

Not a fan of locking behind things that could one day be useful though. Rather than level skill lines it could have easily been newbie friendly like kill 50-100 goblins, undead, orcs, even wild animals.

Levelling skill lines IS newbie friendly though. And also something less-new-but-not-lifetime-achievement players can (mostly) do pretty easily.

majulook · March 4

A couple of things you can do to get those (not applicable in all cases).

1. Create a new character

2. SubClass

3. Respect skill lines and rebuild them.

4. Get a Vampire or Werewolf bite on a character that does not have this.

5. Cure your current Vampire or Werewolf and get a bite for the other.

Note: I was able to get this GP completed in under 3 hours with out using those 2 parts of the GP.

katanagirl1 · March 4

I think you guys are missing the point if you are focusing on the reward for that particular task. OP is probably more concerned with reaching 20/27 tasks, I know I am this time.

I was scheduled for a trial this week so that was one task and I could probably have gotten the kill X enemies or whatever related task too, but my trials guild had something happen this week and people are leaving in droves. Getting 20 tasks done is going to be more of a challenge now.

PeacefulAnarchy · March 4

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point if you are focusing on the reward for that particular task. OP is probably more concerned with reaching 20/27 tasks, I know I am this time.

I was scheduled for a trial this week so that was one task and I could probably have gotten the kill X enemies or whatever related task too, but my trials guild had something happen this week and people are leaving in droves. Getting 20 tasks done is going to be more of a challenge now.

You have a month so hopefully you can find a trial by then.

Enemoriana · March 4

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point if you are focusing on the reward for that particular task. OP is probably more concerned with reaching 20/27 tasks, I know I am this time.

I was scheduled for a trial this week so that was one task and I could probably have gotten the kill X enemies or whatever related task too, but my trials guild had something happen this week and people are leaving in droves. Getting 20 tasks done is going to be more of a challenge now.

Doing crafting dailies with several characters (or one for several days) will give 6/20.
Collect and refine mats +2, improve items +1 (master writ or just make some trash green/blue). So 9/20.
Visit houses (including your own) and place furniture +2. 11/20.

Use ult can be done even without kills, in any guildhall with well and dummy. +1
BG doesn't require to win, so easy +2.
One fungal grotto even solo takes few minutes for experienced player, +1 (ten are boring)
Three worldbosses are easy and quick, +2, 17/20

Event boxes +2, 19/20

If not enough enemies are already killed, 1 scribe will finish 20 tasks.
Each of this tasks will require few minutes (maybe in different days) and is available to everybody.

Where is challenge?

SpiritofESO · March 4

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Aaaaah I see... My feedback to zos is simply that zos should be very careful when they include tasks that potentially *cannot* be completed by some portion of the playerbase. Sometimes their teams don't communicate or coordinate well so I wanted to flag it as a potential issue for them.

I am absolutely sure that ZOS is "very careful" of this issue. There are 27 Golden Pursuits, only 20 of which are required for the top reward. If you don't or can't accomplish all 27, then you will miss a few of the minor Rewards, which I am sure they are aware of.

I am pretty sure this issue of Golden Pursuits was addressed over a year ago, and I am satisfied ZOS is aware of this.

valenwood_vegan · March 4

SpiritofESO wrote: »

I am absolutely sure that ZOS is "very careful" of this issue. There are 27 Golden Pursuits, only 20 of which are required for the top reward. If you don't or can't accomplish all 27, then you will miss a few of the minor Rewards, which I am sure they are aware of.

I am pretty sure this issue of Golden Pursuits was addressed over a year ago, and I am satisfied ZOS is aware of this.

I'm just totally over the moon to know that you're absolutely sure that zos has thought carefully about the issue raised in my feedback and that you're satisfied that all possible issues with golden pursuits have been addressed.

Thank you for the insightful and helpful reply!

o_Primate_o · March 4

use a character slot solely for this endeavor. just delete an existing or buy a new one.

HorrorShow · March 4

It is hiding out of clickable range. Mouse wheel won't scroll down to it either.

Grec1a · March 5

I just sent a non-crafting character to the guild bank, withdrew a few of the crummy armour items in there and deconstructed them at the clothier table. 4 white/green items gave one level in the Clothier skill line.

Sadly, I think my guildies had the same idea, as there's nothing left in the bank

Dojohoda · March 5

Character(s) with armor or weapon crafting statuses less than 50 plus a good amount of intricate pieces equals skill line increases.

DenverRalphy · March 5

Grec1a wrote: »

I just sent a non-crafting character to the guild bank, withdrew a few of the crummy armour items in there and deconstructed them at the clothier table. 4 white/green items gave one level in the Clothier skill line.

Sadly, I think my guildies had the same idea, as there's nothing left in the bank

You can craft up a bunch of CP 150 items on your crafting toon. Then with your non-crafter decon them for a quick 10 levels.

Grec1a · March 5

DenverRalphy wrote: »

You can craft up a bunch of CP 150 items on your crafting toon. Then with your non-crafter decon them for a quick 10 levels.

Hmm... I heard you get less XP if the items were crafted on the same account - hence why I raided the guild bank.

DenverRalphy · March 5

Grec1a wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

You can craft up a bunch of CP 150 items on your crafting toon. Then with your non-crafter decon them for a quick 10 levels.

Hmm... I heard you get less XP if the items were crafted on the same account - hence why I raided the guild bank.

It's not as effective as intricate or colored gear. And CP 160 gear would wipe out your stock of mats in no time. But white CP 150 will get you your first 10 levels really quickly. It's the best way to level Enchanting on alt crafters by a longshot because that craft doesn't require more mats based on level.

katanagirl1 · March 5

Enemoriana wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point if you are focusing on the reward for that particular task. OP is probably more concerned with reaching 20/27 tasks, I know I am this time.

I was scheduled for a trial this week so that was one task and I could probably have gotten the kill X enemies or whatever related task too, but my trials guild had something happen this week and people are leaving in droves. Getting 20 tasks done is going to be more of a challenge now.

Doing crafting dailies with several characters (or one for several days) will give 6/20.
Collect and refine mats +2, improve items +1 (master writ or just make some trash green/blue). So 9/20.
Visit houses (including your own) and place furniture +2. 11/20.

Use ult can be done even without kills, in any guildhall with well and dummy. +1
BG doesn't require to win, so easy +2.
One fungal grotto even solo takes few minutes for experienced player, +1 (ten are boring)
Three worldbosses are easy and quick, +2, 17/20

Event boxes +2, 19/20

If not enough enemies are already killed, 1 scribe will finish 20 tasks.
Each of this tasks will require few minutes (maybe in different days) and is available to everybody.

Where is challenge?

I can do 17 easy, but running a BG (even though I PvP in Cyrodiil) will be an excruciatingly painful experience as it always is. Trying to avoid that one.

Naslu · March 5

if you level a subclass line -> it does count towards! used the chance for leveling up a subline that was not used by me - golden pursuit for this one completed in seconds (master writs ;-)

Enemoriana · March 5

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I can do 17 easy, but running a BG (even though I PvP in Cyrodiil) will be an excruciatingly painful experience as it always is. Trying to avoid that one.

But you don't even need to win, just participate...

10 dungeons and 8 incursions are also easy, just takes more time.
And 100/500 enemies can easily be done in public dungeons or archive solo, or dungeons (solo/random/group, which one is more comfortable).

frogthroat · March 5

Enemoriana wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I can do 17 easy, but running a BG (even though I PvP in Cyrodiil) will be an excruciatingly painful experience as it always is. Trying to avoid that one.

But you don't even need to win, just participate...

10 dungeons and 8 incursions are also easy, just takes more time.
And 100/500 enemies can easily be done in public dungeons or archive solo, or dungeons (solo/random/group, which one is more comfortable).

Good tips.

For house visits and placing furniture, I would recommend Rimmen. If you have done the quest line you have the big house in North Rimmen. And the sugar bowl inn is another one. Both in the same city. I went to one of the houses, placed 5 furniture, picked them up, then ported between those two houses. Very quick.

10 dungeons... those you have to play. Maybe queue to nFG1, each run done in 3 minutes.

8 incursions is probably fastest if you do 3 circles in Alik'r Desert.

For the rest of kill 100 with class skills and kill 500 I did while also doing the skill line levelling. Had a character I have not maxxed out s&b yet, swapped one dagger to a shield. Went to Quarantine Serk graveyard and beamed zombies. Once I had 10 levels, I swapped shield back to a dagger. Once I had 100 with class skills done, I started to use full rotation until I had 500 kills. I only did one dungeon, killed some overland mobs while picking flowers and what enemies I killed while doing dolmens, so the 100/500 were already nicely on the way when I went to the graveyard.

katanagirl1 · March 5

Enemoriana wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I can do 17 easy, but running a BG (even though I PvP in Cyrodiil) will be an excruciatingly painful experience as it always is. Trying to avoid that one.

But you don't even need to win, just participate...

10 dungeons and 8 incursions are also easy, just takes more time.
And 100/500 enemies can easily be done in public dungeons or archive solo, or dungeons (solo/random/group, which one is more comfortable).

If you are a PvE player and don’t care about winning, then yes. If you do want to PvP effectively and play to win, then you will likely be sorely disappointed. I usually get on a team that plays DM regardless of mode and we lose or a team with PvE players who are just waiting out the clock and we lose. It’s as frustrating as being on the team in Cyrodiil that is one bar population when the other two have three bars.

Arunei · March 5

frogthroat wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

PeacefulAnarchy wrote: »

Skill line doesn't have to be class line right? I've maxed those but I probably have a weapon line somewhere that isn't leveled

Any Skill Line, yeah. And I doubt there are many people who have unlocked and fully leveled EVERY Skill Line on ALL of their characters. That would be:

All Class Skill Lines
All Weapon Skill Lines
All Armor Skill Lines
All World Skill Lines
All Guild Skill Lines
All Crafting Skill Lines
All PvP Skill Lines

That is a LOT to unlock on one character, let alone numerous. Especially because no one character is going to need to have every single Skill Line unlocked; if your character is a Mag based one for example, you wouldn't gain anything from leveling everything like 1H, 2H, or S&B Skill Lines.

When you play a while, no, not that much. I grinded some skill lines, but not too intensively. I have all class skill lines levelled, including all subclassing skill lines (week 1), all guild skill lines, only a few characters are missing some crafting like enchanting. From weapons, I am missing a few levels on some skill lines, mainly s&b and resto for those that I have not played tank or healer.

But there are players who make master writs and level up not only all the skill lines, but also all the skills, including both morphs. I only pay attention until I can morph all skills.

I wanted to continue cleaning up my spreadsheet, levelling up missing skill lines but the last time there was a golden pursuit with skill line levelling, I decided to not do that. And it paid off. Yesterday I could again equip a shield on one character and level up the s&b skill line 10 levels. Not sure what is going to happen once I have levelled up all skill lines with all characters, so now I have to save them in case a golden pursuit has that pursuit again. (Ok ok, in reality, I probably won't because it's not that serious for me, but I do understand why blocking a player from being able to get some goodies is not the nicest thing to do, even or especially if they are in end game.)

And how do you know you don't need some combination of skill lines and racial passives in the future? Maybe after Warden rework pure class Warden becomes a meta tank and you need that s&b on your Warden. Maybe Wood Elf passives are changed and that replaces Nord and Imperial as the meta race for tanks. Maybe 2h ... maul gets a bonus for blocking and that becomes viable in tanking. Would you prefer to start playing immediately or first grind levels before you can start playing?

Levelling up everything is preparing for the future. That is why I have been levelling up everything. Man, maxxing Psijic on all characters was boring. But having a beer and snacks next to me, funny videos on 2nd screen and running the Psijic on all characters took me about a week. And I maxxed out Mages Guild and got many skyshards for all characters while levelling up Psijic.

If something that gets added to the game winds up causing people to need Skills from a Line they haven't leveled, then at that point they'll level that Skill Line, I imagine. But most people aren't going to level Resto Staffs on a Stam character that uses 2H weapons, because that character literally gains nothing from that Line. Just like people who don't do Crafting aren't going to bother with most of the Crafting Lines (other than the few that make your Food/Drink last longer and iirc there's one for Alchemy that lets you use Pots more frequently? I'm probably wrong on that one I'd have to check the passives for Alchemy lel). Grinding for something your character will probably never need, to me at least, feels more like a waste of time than leveling something after it becomes viable would be.

valenwood_vegan wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Aaaaah I see. Personally I don't think it's *too* big a deal since it is just an exp scroll, and if someone has been playing long enough that all their characters have all their Skill Lines maxed and have all the characters unlocked they can get...they proooooobably don't need a single exp scroll.

Yeah I hear you, it's not a big deal, I really wasn't trying to make it into one.

My feedback to zos is simply that zos should be very careful when they include tasks that potentially *cannot* be completed by some portion of the playerbase. Sometimes their teams don't communicate or coordinate well so I wanted to flag it as a potential issue for them.

I absolutely think an xp scroll is appropriate for a player who still has skill lines to level up and that's fine. Overall I'm happy with the pursuit.

Though I would like to see additional challenging tasks included for vet players as well, as these pursuits are extremely boring. But I recognize that the overall pursuit should be able to be completed by the majority of players and I wouldn't want that changed.

Oh 100% agree on being careful on tasks that can't be completed, and also about what rewards are tied to those tasks. Nothing unique like Collectibles or Titles or anything like that should ever be tied to being able to complete a certain task, and tasks that do have rewards need to be things a majority of the player base can do.

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Enemoriana wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

I think you guys are missing the point if you are focusing on the reward for that particular task. OP is probably more concerned with reaching 20/27 tasks, I know I am this time.

I was scheduled for a trial this week so that was one task and I could probably have gotten the kill X enemies or whatever related task too, but my trials guild had something happen this week and people are leaving in droves. Getting 20 tasks done is going to be more of a challenge now.

Doing crafting dailies with several characters (or one for several days) will give 6/20.
Collect and refine mats +2, improve items +1 (master writ or just make some trash green/blue). So 9/20.
Visit houses (including your own) and place furniture +2. 11/20.

Use ult can be done even without kills, in any guildhall with well and dummy. +1
BG doesn't require to win, so easy +2.
One fungal grotto even solo takes few minutes for experienced player, +1 (ten are boring)
Three worldbosses are easy and quick, +2, 17/20

Event boxes +2, 19/20

If not enough enemies are already killed, 1 scribe will finish 20 tasks.
Each of this tasks will require few minutes (maybe in different days) and is available to everybody.

Where is challenge?

I can do 17 easy, but running a BG (even though I PvP in Cyrodiil) will be an excruciatingly painful experience as it always is. Trying to avoid that one.

Out of curiosity, which tasks are the ones you're going to have a harder time with? Maybe people can offer tips that will make some of them easier?

AlnilamE · March 5

nightbringer1993 wrote: »

ZOS did you think of those players who already ranked all skill lines and have reach the limit of how many chars they can have.

The rank skill lines golden pursuit goal is therefore impossible to do for these people.

Will you do something about it for those who leveled all skill lines?

Every player old or new will have something in the list of Golden Pursuits that they can't/aren't willing to do.

The skill lines is just one out of 27.

Now imagine the strict solo players that are looking at Trial/Dungoen/BG Golden Pursuits. That's 5 in total.

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

nightbringer1993 wrote: »

ZOS did you think of those players who already ranked all skill lines and have reach the limit of how many chars they can have.

The rank skill lines golden pursuit goal is therefore impossible to do for these people.

Will you do something about it for those who leveled all skill lines?

If you have antiquities Maxed on 20 characters then I am both impressed and concerned at the same time.

Not maxed, but all my chars are at level 7 because glowy chests!

SirBanana1992 · March 6

I like to think I have played extensively to a ludicrous nigh-insane degree with my 20 characters with all their crafting maxed out, their skill points grinded to make everyone an expert crafted, learned all traits on all of them, learned a bunch of motifs on all of them with one character knowing them all, all scribing scripts on all of them, maxed out FG and MG on all of them and much more. And despite all that I still have plenty of options opened to me to gain 10 ranks in any skill line many times over.

I am wondering if most of the people worried they would be unable to do it are not forgetting something they can absolutely do to meet the criteria or see it in a light of "I want to complete it but not like this".

wolfie1.0. · March 6

Its a 100% experience scroll...

Grec1a wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

You can craft up a bunch of CP 150 items on your crafting toon. Then with your non-crafter decon them for a quick 10 levels.

Hmm... I heard you get less XP if the items were crafted on the same account - hence why I raided the guild bank.

The penalty only applies to crafting and deconning on the same character last i checked. Doing it on a different character is effective.

The order is:
Intricate
dropped gear ( color means more inspiration)
Crafted by another character/player (ranked by color)
White Crafted and drops
Crafted and deconned by self
Stolen gear

katanagirl1 · March 6

SirBanana1992 wrote: »

I like to think I have played extensively to a ludicrous nigh-insane degree with my 20 characters with all their crafting maxed out, their skill points grinded to make everyone an expert crafted, learned all traits on all of them, learned a bunch of motifs on all of them with one character knowing them all, all scribing scripts on all of them, maxed out FG and MG on all of them and much more. And despite all that I still have plenty of options opened to me to gain 10 ranks in any skill line many times over.

I am wondering if most of the people worried they would be unable to do it are not forgetting something they can absolutely do to meet the criteria or see it in a light of "I want to complete it but not like this".

Yes, if I understand correctly it is the latter. Sometimes the options are doable but it is not something I want to do and I might not do it. If I don’t make it to 20 items then that’s okay. I don’t really need more seals anyway.

Sometimes I do things I don’t like for rewards and sometimes I choose not to. I am weighing the options now and think I will make it. I like to get the rewards but above all I prefer to do things I enjoy instead.

SirBanana1992 · March 6

katanagirl1 wrote: »

Sometimes I do things I don’t like for rewards and sometimes I choose not to. I am weighing the options now and think I will make it. I like to get the rewards but above all I prefer to do things I enjoy instead.

Can definitely agree with that. I'll use this round as an excuse to see if I can progress another character through excavation. With enough luck when the update hits all my active lead timers will update to ESO+ benefits.

Arunei · March 6

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Its a 100% experience scroll...

Grec1a wrote: »

DenverRalphy wrote: »

You can craft up a bunch of CP 150 items on your crafting toon. Then with your non-crafter decon them for a quick 10 levels.

Hmm... I heard you get less XP if the items were crafted on the same account - hence why I raided the guild bank.

The penalty only applies to crafting and deconning on the same character last i checked. Doing it on a different character is effective.

The order is:
Intricate
dropped gear ( color means more inspiration)
Crafted by another character/player (ranked by color)
White Crafted and drops
Crafted and deconned by self
Stolen gear

This is correct, same account doesn't matter as long as it's different characters.

frogthroat · March 6

Arunei wrote: »

But most people aren't going to level Resto Staffs on a Stam character that uses 2H weapons, because that character literally gains nothing from that Line.

Yeah, I thought so too. Until I figured out I need minor berserk on my bomber build and had to level resto staff. Camo hunter would do that after the initial hit.