Why the Millennial Writing?

BardokRedSnow · February 23

As for the rest she definitely could've articulated this better, stating it was an immense struggle etc would have been better. I made a point before about the millennial writing and that too was considered problematic, for some reason it is a sensitive matter to acknowledge there's differences in quality of writing between generations. This is a reflection of that, people forget Zenimax has lost what, half their employees since Microsoft made those cuts?

All that said, I don't think this is a major deal, as long as they don't start using internet lingo. The "And stuff" line the player couldn't avoid using was much worse.

twisttop138 · February 23

xylena wrote: »

Apollosipod wrote: »

Off topic, but as a millennial I really appreciate you associating youthful with millennial. I feel young again. Anyway, time to stretch my back

Also off topic: I'm from 83 (xennial generational void) so I still grew up "analog" and never really connected with the younger online-focused millenial subculture.

84 here. The xennial thing is pretty new knowledge to me. I was an adult before I had a phone or in house internet. I've been curious why I never took to these things. I'll never have the instinct to check my email or something. I don't mind it. The world was a better place before the dark times. Before the empire. Oh shoot. Wrong genre.

Northwold · February 23

whitecrow wrote: »

cyclonus11 wrote: »

Millennials are reaching the mid-forties. Using it as a reference to "youth culture" is tired.

Eh? It's only about 25 years since the millennium.

Millennials, depending on your definition, start around 1980-81 (the term was first coined for people who would come of age around the millennium).

Vaqual · February 23

xylena wrote: »

Vaqual wrote: »

It is ok to point out bad writing, although being hypersensitive about ambiguous instances isn't necessarily a good look.

Players complaining on forums don't care about their "look" in this manner, they're not running for office or selling a product. They are attempting to communicate to the devs or reach a broader audience that may agree with them, not trying to convince the "it's fine" people.

The ambiguous "epic" isn't as egregious as "tank" or "Wing Buffet" for breaking immersion with modern cultural references, but western millenials are a big demographic for this game and it's obviously contentious. The writing fails to connect with its target audience.

I meant a good look in terms of connecting eye-to-eye with responsible people at ZOS, who can view this topic as unbiased feedback or just put the "bashing" label on it and call it a day. If we make an effort with our communication we improve our chances of actually receiving what we are asking for.

TheOubliette · February 23

xbluerosesx wrote: »

Why did the daedric prince that was sealed up for millennia use "epic? "💀
I haven't even heard "epic used like that in forever.
why's she talking like a 30 something who's still mentally 12?

It's just one of the many examples I have of ESO writers putting zero effort into writing. It's not like ZOS can't afford to hire good ones, they have that Micro$oft money.

Started this mission a couple weeks back, and my group and I mocked the hell out of this writing. Yes, the use of "epic" in this way IS very jarring, because it's not talking about 'an epic', it's used as an exclamation, but the whole into dialogue is puerile and simplistic, clearly written by people with a serious case of idiocracy-brain.

And as others have said, the 'Deadric Prince' is one of the worst character models I've seen. It's a serious design departure for the game's aesthetics, and the mouth animation is on the bad side of creepy. Did this design get handed off to juniors? Let's hope this is a one-off.

ElvenOverlord · February 23

*Gen Z

xbluerosesx · 6:37AM

WaywardArgonian wrote: »

As to the overarching question of why that sort of writing is present, it's just the direction that popular culture took after a lot of it got homogenized under the influence of Marvel and other franchises like Star Wars. It's less to do with the way millennials actually talk and more with how media and mainstream culture became sanitized when executives realized that they could sell more copies of their product if it is rated PG-13. So you end up with this sort of performative toughness and quirkiness that has by now caught on in video games as well.

millennial writing, that's literally the term for cringe dialogue. if I called it twitterspeak would you feel better?

SwordOfSagas · 6:38AM

she's definitely been to that surgeon in the Riften sewers way too many times.

BahometZ · 7:53AM

Epic is a very real and apt word that is well-defined in a dictionary and people need some real problems to write about.

Did you know that you could cringe thirty years ago?

xbluerosesx · 8:30AM

BahometZ wrote: »

Epic is a very real and apt word that is well-defined in a dictionary and people need some real problems to write about.

Did you know that you could cringe thirty years ago?

Epic is too modern of a word choice for an ancient daedric entity.

frogthroat · 8:35AM

xbluerosesx wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

Epic is a very real and apt word that is well-defined in a dictionary and people need some real problems to write about.

Did you know that you could cringe thirty years ago?

Epic is too modern of a word choice for an ancient daedric entity.

Yes, the word originates in the late 1500's so yeah, it's not really medieval, or even late medieval any more, but more like early modern era. The Millennials of the Renaissance started to use that word.

xbluerosesx · 10:02AM

frogthroat wrote: »

xbluerosesx wrote: »

BahometZ wrote: »

Epic is a very real and apt word that is well-defined in a dictionary and people need some real problems to write about.

Did you know that you could cringe thirty years ago?

Epic is too modern of a word choice for an ancient daedric entity.

Yes, the word originates in the late 1500's so yeah, it's not really medieval, or even late medieval any more, but more like early modern era. The Millennials of the Renaissance started to use that word.

poorly edited but it's not wrong