End the pink tax

jlats · February 18

Another year passes and another year we have only 6-7 pinks in the game (depending on what you apply them to / how you define pink) and 3 of them are STILL only accessible via a FOMO paywall.
The new hearts day event / golden pursuit could have been the perfect time to add a new pink dye.

spartaxoxo · February 18

True, even as someone who enjoys the light up mounts and stuff, it's weird to me that there's a greater aversion to giving us soft colors like pinks/yellows over exploding mounts.

Faltasë · February 18

I agree. Can we also get house mornard yellow as well? I love cool colors like pink and yellow. Give us more!

Lekjih · February 18

And we will get 15 more purple mounts before a single pink one. I don't think there is actually a single true pink mount in game. There's a half blue half salmon durzog, the new indrik is half pink half brown, and a radiant apex red cosmic horse which can look pink if you squint at it sideways, but actual pinks mounts, I can't think of.

LunaFlora · February 18

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/688775/please-let-us-collect-the-dye-stamp-exclusive-dyes-outfit-system-request#latest
yes indeed

Jordan_Black · February 18

The Silver Nimbus wolf is pink. Boy howdy is it pink. (And Silver.) I really feel like I'm unleashing my inner 14 year old girl riding that thing around.

SkaiFaith · February 18

And if I recall correctly, many pinks and similar shades are behind hard content (lots of the rare dyes are remaining unlocked to me)

lillybit · February 18

I did all the fishing just for the pink dye and it ended up being awful. Haven't found a single thing it looks good on.

Definitely need actual pink things!

Soarora · February 18

Lekjih wrote: »

And we will get 15 more purple mounts before a single pink one. I don't think there is actually a single true pink mount in game. There's a half blue half salmon durzog, the new indrik is half pink half brown, and a radiant apex red cosmic horse which can look pink if you squint at it sideways, but actual pinks mounts, I can't think of.

Someone also pointed out there’s no pink arms packs in another thread.

emilyhyoyeon · February 18

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

LunaFlora · February 18

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

yes, but there are 3 pink dyes exclusive to Dye Stamps from the Crown Store. we cannot use those on Outfits.
And even on Costumes it is frustrating to use Dye Stamps, they are one time use

emilyhyoyeon · February 18

LunaFlora wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

yes, but there are 3 pink dyes exclusive to Dye Stamps from the Crown Store. we cannot use those on Outfits.
And even on Costumes it is frustrating to use Dye Stamps, they are one time use

Right and I'm 100% pro adding more dyes, especially the holiday dye stamp ones, but to say things like ''we have only 6-7 pinks in the game (depending on what you apply them to / how you define pink) and 3 of them are STILL only accessible via a FOMO paywall'' is crazy to me.

There are a lot of good pink dyes. It's probably one of the most plentiful colors in the dye system currently along with blue.

LunaFlora · February 18

i would phrase it as bright pinks maybe? most of them are muted and closer to red or purple

edit: i forgot the word "are"

wolfie1.0. · February 18

Pink is just a pigment of your imagination.

Also, colorblind mode when?

Orbital78 · February 18

Many of the "red" colors look pink to me. Scintillating was the last decent red I've seen.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 19

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

Same, like I'm sure I have at least 10 pinks of different shades, but I'm still waiting on a single proper yellow. Why do we have so few dyes in the yellow and orange range, which does not look brown, green, or beige.

Evil_Rurouni · February 19

It's worth knowing a few things:

Firstly, the preview colours in the tiny menu windows often lie to you.
EG: King orgnum's wine and Sanity's orchid both look like they're at the middle of the purple spectrum in preview, but are both actually pretty far towards the blue end of the spectrum.

Secondly, dye names are also unhelpful or outright misleading at times.
EG: Pact fisher red is more of a peach/pink colour, and Ironweed violet is almost straight up pink with maybe a smidge of blue added to the mix.

Thirdly, the base colour of a given motif or outfit can distort your dyes.
Try dying ebonheart pact heavy motif pieces white if you need a demonstration.

Fourth, the lighting at the station can mess with the preview.
I recommend using a dye station you placed in your own home so you can control the lighting level as opposed to, say, the dark, dingy station in the basement of Riften.

And of course, your definition of "pink" might not match that of others.

Sometimes you just have to go to a dye station and actually try out everything even vaguely close to the desired colour to see what you get.
There's more pink spectrum dyes available than a cursory glance might lead you to believe.

LunaFlora · February 19

y'all this post is clearly about paywalled pink dyes

Radiate77 · February 19

LunaFlora wrote: »

y'all this post is clearly about paywalled pink dyes

Yeah I think they glanced over the word “tax.” 👀

IMO there should not be exclusive Holiday Dyes, all Dyes should be earnable in-game. That’s the entire reward structure, and when you start putting great dyes as paid exclusives instead of actual rewards for content, people stop playing the content.

Once upon a time, Voidsteel Violet and Akatosh’s Scales Gold meant something.

I miss having dyes like these to hunt down.

jlats · February 19

“depending on what you apply them to / how you define pink”

Sorry I’m not definining fleshy warm toned beige as pink 🤷‍♀️

and even if you want to count that as pink, loads of those vs a couple of vibrant ones (again 3 of which are dye stamp only), is still obviously not a good UNTAXED selection.

Orbital78 · February 19

I'd like to see more dyes in general, but good ones. I'd rather have good dyes than a title I nor anyone else cares about.

Faltasë · February 19

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

Same, like I'm sure I have at least 10 pinks of different shades, but I'm still waiting on a single proper yellow. Why do we have so few dyes in the yellow and orange range, which does not look brown, green, or beige.

Don't forget the absurdly metallic dyes that ruin the vibe when you just wanted something normally clothe-like or matte.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 19

Faltasë wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

Same, like I'm sure I have at least 10 pinks of different shades, but I'm still waiting on a single proper yellow. Why do we have so few dyes in the yellow and orange range, which does not look brown, green, or beige.

Don't forget the absurdly metallic dyes that ruin the vibe when you just wanted something normally clothe-like or matte.

Urgh yes, I don't understand why we get so many of these ultra glossy dyes with metallic or iridescent effects that just looks weird and/or plasticy on most things.

I just want more nice matte dyes of all colours that got a good saturation. But not too bright or saturated because that's an issue too. Probably why I'm rarely interested in the crown exclusive dye stamps because many of them are just so glossy and so saturated they look weird.

Soarora · February 19

Faltasë wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

Same, like I'm sure I have at least 10 pinks of different shades, but I'm still waiting on a single proper yellow. Why do we have so few dyes in the yellow and orange range, which does not look brown, green, or beige.

Don't forget the absurdly metallic dyes that ruin the vibe when you just wanted something normally clothe-like or matte.

ALL OF THE GOOD BROWNS ARE METALLIC!!!!! I NEED MATTE BROWNS!!!

My usual “there’s a dye conversation, let me complain about my desire for good brown dyes” post is now complete.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · February 20

Soarora wrote: »

Faltasë wrote: »

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I'm so confused. There are so many good pink dyes

Same, like I'm sure I have at least 10 pinks of different shades, but I'm still waiting on a single proper yellow. Why do we have so few dyes in the yellow and orange range, which does not look brown, green, or beige.

Don't forget the absurdly metallic dyes that ruin the vibe when you just wanted something normally clothe-like or matte.

ALL OF THE GOOD BROWNS ARE METALLIC!!!!! I NEED MATTE BROWNS!!!

My usual “there’s a dye conversation, let me complain about my desire for good brown dyes” post is now complete.

I too like to complain about the lack of nice browns. I feel like a broken record regarding matte dyes, but especially nice browns, yellows, and oranges.

Adhara · February 23

We need more dyes just in general. Neverwinter Nights and WildStar had the right idea, in my opinion; NWN sells dyes from vendors (though we don't necessarily need separate dyes for each material type) and WildStar allowed players to acquire dyes from multiple sources, not just achievements (and I notice the easiest achievements give the worst-looking, muddy dyes. I WANT BRIGHT COLOURS. I still wear vanilla armour transmogs in WoW for this reason, despite the ancient crunchy textures.)

ESO doesn't have challenges like WildStar did, but dyes could come as rewards for in-world challenges. They also came from the cash shop, either directly or on the loot tables of the game's equivalent to Crown Crates. There is a huge variety of colour in the world, and making a new and unique dye map has got to be one of the easiest tasks for graphical designers that would get the best payout when it's popular among players.

lillybit · February 24

We need more dyes with distinctive colours for sure. There's so many that just aren't used because they're so muddy or wishy-washy. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say I could count the only ones I ever use on my fingers, but it would be close!