Necromancer vs Warden

AvidNecro · February 15

Can we please see necromancer rework before the warden? Swap the classes in the roadmap, the necromancer arguably needs more attention than the warden for obvious reasons. They are both DLC classes so it really doesnt make sense why the weakest class has to wait almost 2 years before any changes are made. @ZOS_Kevin @ZOS_NickG @ZOS_Susan

Faltasë · February 15

Just be patient. It's not like Necromancer is unusable.

nightbringer1993 · February 15

Faltasë wrote: »

Just be patient. It's not like Necromancer is unusable.

Have you been trying the Necro class lately. The class is most nerfed class and the weakest and the most discriminated.
Necro should have remastered before warden for that exact reason. A 12.99€/chapter class that feels like a scam.
Corpses that keep on disappearing since last year, huge nerf to corpseburster and maj vul accessible by all other classes through sets like turning tide. Necros are getting trashed in PvP and warden is the top tier. The removal of stalking blastbone was a huge nerf and its effects are still being felt today and you are telling us to be patient!
For four years we have getting nerfed, and the few buffs that we have had were just insignificant.

tomofhyrule · February 16

They aren't doing the reworks based on "who needs the most love." It's based on "what's the easiest to do first."

By your own admission, Necro needs a lot of help. So... you want them to do it as a rush job? Instead of giving it the time it needs?

DK was obviously first because a) it wasn't in a really bad place, b) all of the lines were mostly on theme already, and c) it needed mostly animation updates, and then they could fiddle with balance. Warden second also makes a lot of sense since it's a) the first DLC class with delineated lines already, but b) the 'tank' line already had a lot done to make it into a damage line, so half of the work was already done. As such, DK is the proof-of-concept for the basegame classes (which need a lot more muddling together) and Warden is the proof-of-concept for the DLCs (which almost need full rebuilds, but not animation changes).

Nerco and Arc also have a unique mechanic that needs to be worked through as well. The reason they're so late in the game is because they're trying to give them to most amount of time to cook. If it was all based on balance, then it would have been in a totally different order.

Faltasë · February 16

nightbringer1993 wrote: »

Faltasë wrote: »

Just be patient. It's not like Necromancer is unusable.

Have you been trying the Necro class lately. The class is most nerfed class and the weakest and the most discriminated.
Necro should have remastered before warden for that exact reason. A 12.99€/chapter class that feels like a scam.
Corpses that keep on disappearing since last year, huge nerf to corpseburster and maj vul accessible by all other classes through sets like turning tide. Necros are getting trashed in PvP and warden is the top tier. The removal of stalking blastbone was a huge nerf and its effects are still being felt today and you are telling us to be patient!
For four years we have getting nerfed, and the few buffs that we have had were just insignificant.

I've been doing pretty well with my stage 4 Necromancer vampire. Could it use a buff? Sure. But so can three other classes in the game. Try making a base class sorc feel useful right now and then get back to me on why you feel your class needs the most immediate attention that you're totally entitled to.

Radiate77 · February 16

Just saw this, huge agree.

Renato90085 · February 16

but what is the weakest class for you ?
pve is warden and nb but they have skill line T0 in pvp
pvp is necro ,but it still only one good to play pure tank class in pve and Grave Lord still a good line for dd

madman65 · February 16

To me the weakest is the Templar.