Console trader vs PC market post-Crosplay, and solo Gold farming - any insight, please?

SkaiFaith · February 7

I've been trading for 3 years circa on console and I made 50+ mils. Before trading I barely made 3 mils.
I am tired of trading and I want to drop it BUT...

- How can a console non-trading player achieve purchases in a PC market economy?

Things that cost 800K on console (which IS A LOT) on PC can cost 3-5 millions (so I heard about purple Vigorous/quickened heavy gear, for example).

I obviously never used bots for my trading, and in fact I never even traded materials. I never farmed crafting writs. I just flipped something.

If you are a PC player that never traded - how much gold do you have? Are you able to purchase anything you want off traders?
Am I doomed to be broke when servers will be merged if I stop trading?

Market experts' opinion welcome! Especially on what the prices could end up looking like when crossplay will come.

Orbital78 · February 7

I'd hope that the markets remain separate or I would just like there to be no cross play at all. Trade guilds are interwoven in the games economy, you are going to struggle bus without it. People try to use zone chat, but that isn't a good option imo. On PC-NA I have multiple trade guilds which are casual, almost always have a trader, and basically have no dues or requirements other than remain active and at least try to sell some items. The prices on PC-NA are probably actually much lower than what you have to be honest though I haven't used a console since SNES. With addons for so many years, the market has become oversaturated with many items. Some base mats aren't worth selling and I just vendor them.

Hugie · February 7

When they introduce crossplay and merge the economies, I imagine they will convert console players' gold to match PC economy numbers. I have utmost faith that that will make nobody upset and will be perfectly fair, since the calculations they did for population between servers for Writhing Wall event progress were flawless first try.

Jokes aside, I imagine there will be a gold conversion and I imagine that crossplay will make guild trader locations more competitive. I don't anticipate economies/traders will remain separate per server. Guess we'll see!

freespirit · February 7

I'm not sure how they would/will deal with the differences in prices between console and PC.

I'm thinking they may do console crossplay first as it does seem the consoles are already at much lower population than PC.

It seems that recently PC-NA has had a drop in prices, whereas PC-EU still maintains a higher price threshold.

I have been trading since day dot on PC-EU and yes I can afford the sometimes eyewatering prices but choose not to, preferring to farm the expensive stuff myself, if I really want it!

I'm not sure they would do any kind of gold conversion, that would not be easy to implement.

If you have 50mill+ you will be fine, unless you want to do any crown buying, in that case, at least on PC-EU atm your 50mill will disappear very fast!

Lekjih · February 7

Honestly I'm so against any form of server merge for so many reasons but the economy is the one that will make console unplayable. You can ignore pvp and leaderboards, you can't ignore that you can no longer afford motifs and wax to improve gear.
I have secondary prblems like how will ping work and how will character names transfer but those are more easily solved.

katanagirl1 · 1:04AM

It was claimed that the addons on PC made the economy what it was, but we now have addons on console and I don’t think much has changed.

scrappy1342 · 1:26AM

prices on pc definitely aren't what they used to be. even if they are higher than console, the good thing is, you'll be bringing your goods with you and then can sell them for those higher prices. i imagine prices would drop at first with new supply, but things will even out eventually

freespirit · 1:28AM

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It was claimed that the addons on PC made the economy what it was, but we now have addons on console and I don’t think much has changed.

I've always thought PC prices versus Console was more to do with a much larger population on PC.

I definitely think addons do play a part though and maybe consoles got them just too late!

spartaxoxo · 8:12AM

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It was claimed that the addons on PC made the economy what it was, but we now have addons on console and I don’t think much has changed.

Console trade is a shell of what it used to be by the time it was introduced. We also haven't had them very long and those type of changes happen pretty slowly. Also we don't have a website that functions as a semi-auction house well. And the trade add-ons prices still aren't fully trusted because it's not as accurate. The website and trust will probably change as they get more data.

katanagirl1 · 7:23PM

spartaxoxo wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

It was claimed that the addons on PC made the economy what it was, but we now have addons on console and I don’t think much has changed.

Console trade is a shell of what it used to be by the time it was introduced. We also haven't had them very long and those type of changes happen pretty slowly. Also we don't have a website that functions as a semi-auction house well. And the trade add-ons prices still aren't fully trusted because it's not as accurate. The website and trust will probably change as they get more data.

Yeah the short listing times pretty much wiped out a lot of the bigger guilds that frequented the capital cities. They are full of no name guilds with little inventory now. Unfortunately the upcoming change is probably too late to bring them back.

tomofhyrule · 8:33PM

It'll be a bit bumpy when they merge, but that's going to get solved very quickly.

If we all of a sudden get a merged server, that means that all of the stuff that console players have in their inventories/craft bags will suddenly be worth a lot more, allowing them to join PC trade guilds and sell all of that stuff for the PC prices. Sure, the prices will also shift a bit with a glut of new supply, but eventually it will all even out.

After all, why is there the assumption that no console players will join PC trade guilds, and that no current guilds will fold/merge/etc.?

spartaxoxo · 8:41PM

tomofhyrule wrote: »

It'll be a bit bumpy when they merge, but that's going to get solved very quickly.

If we all of a sudden get a merged server, that means that all of the stuff that console players have in their inventories/craft bags will suddenly be worth a lot more, allowing them to join PC trade guilds and sell all of that stuff for the PC prices. Sure, the prices will also shift a bit with a glut of new supply, but eventually it will all even out.

After all, why is there the assumption that no console players will join PC trade guilds, and that no current guilds will fold/merge/etc.?

I have no intention of leaving my guilds because of crossplay. I think most will not but idk. Guilds are also groups of people and I like the people in my guilds. I'm not super into the social aspects but people are always nice and they're low drama.

If those guilds end up dying because they can't possibly compete with PC funding, that's going to be a real shame.