ESO_player123 wrote: »What is this fight? I do not remember a world boss with this name (on the other hand I'm bad with remembering names in general).
OtarTheMad wrote: »ESO_player123 wrote: »What is this fight? I do not remember a world boss with this name (on the other hand I'm bad with remembering names in general).
It’s a quest boss fight. Although I’ve never had this issue with it so it seems that ZOS buffed the crap out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704VwI am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
Fights on at 4:15
At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
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Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.
Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.
These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?
I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.
I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN
I have gone into this fight probably over 8 times with two different characters at different levels, last was a 835 Champion Warden Archer. I get slaughtered in under 1 minute and I am being generous with the time scale. Most of the time I think it is 45 seconds or less.
My last trip was with my 835 Champion Point Warden, I figured my other character must have something wrong with it. I have custom made armor and it is pretty darn good.
My health is 34000+, I wear two complete sets of armor to maximize bonus', I think 12,000 plus shield kicks in if I get too weak. Yet when I go into this battle I end up running for my life, taking a potion to keep me alive, and I rarely get a chance to use Ghost Vision.
I have played every DLC except multiplayer dungeons and this is the only DLC I have never been able to complete after 2860 hours.
I have a thread on Steam and another player who has 5000 hours of playing time has the same problem. I guess neither one of us knows why this particular fight baffles us.
I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
Fights on at 4:15
At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
....
Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.
Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.
These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?
I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.
I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN
His build is the problem here. He’s beaming with less than 3 crux and spamming light attacks instead of using his spammable. His spammable is also the wrong one for a beam build, he’s not applying the flail debuff. Not even using the taunt, so don’t know why that’s there. I assume by lack of barswapping, he’s in oakensoul and thus doesn’t need the resolve skill either. Inferno isn’t even beneficial for that build, lightning staff is the only one of the staves that’d boost his damage.
If you’re having trouble and are interested, I can take a look at your build without just trying to shove you into meta.
cyclonus11 wrote: »I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
Fights on at 4:15
At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
....
Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.
Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.
These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?
I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.
I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN
His build is the problem here. He’s beaming with less than 3 crux and spamming light attacks instead of using his spammable. His spammable is also the wrong one for a beam build, he’s not applying the flail debuff. Not even using the taunt, so don’t know why that’s there. I assume by lack of barswapping, he’s in oakensoul and thus doesn’t need the resolve skill either. Inferno isn’t even beneficial for that build, lightning staff is the only one of the staves that’d boost his damage.
If you’re having trouble and are interested, I can take a look at your build without just trying to shove you into meta.
This highlights a major issue with the game. There are countless different skills, abilities, armor sets, armor types, weapon sets, weapon types, enchantments, potions, poisons, mundus stones, attributes, constellation points, food, drink, etc., etc., etc. combinations and no real tutorials on how to find the best ones for your play style or how to learn about everything that's out there, or even how everything works together.
There are things that you or I might think are common sense, but many players may never know or realize even after YEARS of playing. Seemingly simple things like blocking power attacks, not standing in the red, bar swapping, bashing to interrupt channeled abilities, set pieces on your back bar not counting toward your 5-pc set total, etc.