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ESO Vaemina Mythos Fight

jdbassjr
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I have gone into this fight probably over 8 times with two different characters at different levels, last was a 835 Champion Warden Archer. I get slaughtered in under 1 minute and I am being generous with the time scale. Most of the time I think it is 45 seconds or less.

My last trip was with my 835 Champion Point Warden, I figured my other character must have something wrong with it. I have custom made armor and it is pretty darn good.

My health is 34000+, I wear two complete sets of armor to maximize bonus', I think 12,000 plus shield kicks in if I get too weak. Yet when I go into this battle I end up running for my life, taking a potion to keep me alive, and I rarely get a chance to use Ghost Vision.

I have played every DLC except multiplayer dungeons and this is the only DLC I have never been able to complete after 2860 hours.

I have a thread on Steam and another player who has 5000 hours of playing time has the same problem. I guess neither one of us knows why this particular fight baffles us.
Edited by jdbassjr on December 4, 2023 4:52AM
  • jdbassjr
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    One thing I forgot to mention.

    I am not very mobile on the battlefield. When you have crappy hands punching the correct keys to move around can be a chancy affair. So I normally hit W and point the mouse and run. When I feel brave I might hit A or D and try to miss some incoming damage.
  • aetherial_heavenn
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    Basically the main body becomes invulnerable (see the shield) and starts spawning clones. Defeating the clones helps to bring down the shield on the main body. So focus on the clones.

    In this case, the clones shoot beams which travel in a straight path and linger for a while. I remember being able to interrupt the clones to end their lasers early, which allowed some space to move away. Use Bash or crushing shock or some such to interrupt in turn.Keybinding thru controls your interrupt (bash) to one key is always a good idea.

    You also need to use ghost sight, otherwise you're only doing 10% damage. When the NPC tells you, find the circle on the ground and activate it (maybe up your gamma or bloom to see it?) The verbal cue or subtitles helped me start looking in time.

    I did it with an HA sorc (capped) and an Arcanist (level 20 no CP) and I, too, have fumble fingers (arthritis). It is hard if you can't strafe the circle. On sorc, I ran with HA lightning staff on each clone in a straight line, around the edge, bashed them or used crushing, then rinsed and repeated around the circle...then attacked the boss when her shield was down. ("invulnerable" warning goes away.)

    Like a lot of recent content, the extremes of stacking dps and burning, or standing still all tanky for ages, while completely ignoring adds won't work well for most of us. I do slot celerity CP if you have movement issues. It helps a bit. I use potions off cool down so I have plenty of stam to block or dodge when needed. Eat good food. It's worth a bit of preparing for, if you don't do high deeps because it's a slog to repeat :)

    Good luck.

    TL:DR
    Mechanic: Enter green circles and use Ghost Sight Synergy. Then go around circle killing all the clones. Go back to boss until you hear the NPC say to use ghost sight, go into circle use synergy, kill clones, then back to boss, etc.
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  • jdbassjr
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    I understand everything you said and I try to do those things but I am getting killed so fast it is meaningless.

    This is one DLC I have walked away from as of yesterday.

    The damage being done to me is very similar to a World Boss. I would never expect to beat one of those on my own and that is exactly what is happening.

    When my health drops below 30% I get a 12883 point shield plus I get one Tri-Crown Restoration Potion and I am gone. There are no seconds on these since I am dead too fast.
  • jdbassjr
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    PS. The other player I was talking about complained of the same thing. Overwhelming damage happing very fast.
  • ESO_player123
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    What is this fight? I do not remember a world boss with this name (on the other hand I'm bad with remembering names in general).
  • OtarTheMad
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    What is this fight? I do not remember a world boss with this name (on the other hand I'm bad with remembering names in general).

    It’s a quest boss fight. Although I’ve never had this issue with it so it seems that ZOS buffed the crap out of it.

  • ESO_player123
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    OtarTheMad wrote: »
    What is this fight? I do not remember a world boss with this name (on the other hand I'm bad with remembering names in general).

    It’s a quest boss fight. Although I’ve never had this issue with it so it seems that ZOS buffed the crap out of it.

    Thanks. I usually do not remember quest fights at all.
  • Macsen
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    Same problem here. Incoming Damage happens so fast Im dead in less than 10 seconds. NO CLUE what to do. Melyn doesn't even get a chance to cue me to use Ghost Sight. I hate this. It's all about tactics, it's all about being able to calculate your DPS to three decimal places. Do this Do ThaT, AND IF YOU DEVIATE AT ALL YOU LOSEi
  • Macsen
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    Sorry for the outburst. I have been online gaming since the 90s when all we had were 5600 baud modems. Boss fights are all the same to me. They are tedious boring repetitions and just miserable. I have gone through this quest easily Then things jump from doable to freak show level impossible. I got stuck on this mess once before but it was a different Vermina's whatever in a different place. same thing. After about fifty repeats I left ESO for two year. Yet, hear I am again same freak show story. This boss fight is just not necessary and grossly interferes with the game and the emmersion with no in game HINT how to do this crap. The Frustration Levels are through the danged ROOF.

    I will try those tactics about. But frankly the visual and audio NOISE in these things pretty much blinds any situational awareness I might have. If I had the man in front of me who designed this, I'd turn the air BLUE with the vitriol I'd unload.
  • Macsen
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    I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
    Fights on at 4:15
    At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
    ....
    Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.

    Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.

    These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?

    I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.

    I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN
  • Soarora
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    Macsen wrote: »
    I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
    Fights on at 4:15
    At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
    ....
    Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.

    Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.

    These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?

    I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.

    I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN

    His build is the problem here. He’s beaming with less than 3 crux and spamming light attacks instead of using his spammable. His spammable is also the wrong one for a beam build, he’s not applying the flail debuff. Not even using the taunt, so don’t know why that’s there. I assume by lack of barswapping, he’s in oakensoul and thus doesn’t need the resolve skill either. Inferno isn’t even beneficial for that build, lightning staff is the only one of the staves that’d boost his damage.

    If you’re having trouble and are interested, I can take a look at your build without just trying to shove you into meta.
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  • shadyjane62
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    jdbassjr wrote: »
    I have gone into this fight probably over 8 times with two different characters at different levels, last was a 835 Champion Warden Archer. I get slaughtered in under 1 minute and I am being generous with the time scale. Most of the time I think it is 45 seconds or less.

    My last trip was with my 835 Champion Point Warden, I figured my other character must have something wrong with it. I have custom made armor and it is pretty darn good.

    My health is 34000+, I wear two complete sets of armor to maximize bonus', I think 12,000 plus shield kicks in if I get too weak. Yet when I go into this battle I end up running for my life, taking a potion to keep me alive, and I rarely get a chance to use Ghost Vision.

    I have played every DLC except multiplayer dungeons and this is the only DLC I have never been able to complete after 2860 hours.

    I have a thread on Steam and another player who has 5000 hours of playing time has the same problem. I guess neither one of us knows why this particular fight baffles us.

    This fight destroyed any hope I had of progressing in ESO. I could never do it no matter what armor I had or skills. I couldn't finish Gold Road because I could never finish Necrom. Literally this fight I kept losing was the beginning of my end in ESO.
  • Gabriel_H
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    1. Are you taking the synergy?
    2. Are you using Ring of the Pale Order?

    Edit: What is killing you? What does the death recap show?
    Edited by Gabriel_H on February 7, 2026 6:52PM
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  • cyclonus11
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    Soarora wrote: »
    Macsen wrote: »
    I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
    Fights on at 4:15
    At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
    ....
    Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.

    Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.

    These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?

    I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.

    I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN

    His build is the problem here. He’s beaming with less than 3 crux and spamming light attacks instead of using his spammable. His spammable is also the wrong one for a beam build, he’s not applying the flail debuff. Not even using the taunt, so don’t know why that’s there. I assume by lack of barswapping, he’s in oakensoul and thus doesn’t need the resolve skill either. Inferno isn’t even beneficial for that build, lightning staff is the only one of the staves that’d boost his damage.

    If you’re having trouble and are interested, I can take a look at your build without just trying to shove you into meta.

    This highlights a major issue with the game. There are countless different skills, abilities, armor sets, armor types, weapon sets, weapon types, enchantments, potions, poisons, mundus stones, attributes, constellation points, food, drink, etc., etc., etc. combinations and no real tutorials on how to find the best ones for your play style or how to learn about everything that's out there, or even how everything works together.

    There are things that you or I might think are common sense, but many players may never know or realize even after YEARS of playing. Seemingly simple things like blocking power attacks, not standing in the red, bar swapping, bashing to interrupt channeled abilities, set pieces on your back bar not counting toward your 5-pc set total, etc.
  • ESO_player123
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    I have no recollection of this fight whatsoever. I think I found the motivation to go through the questline again on another toon.

    Edit: I just realized I already posted in this old thread 3 years ago. I guess it's indeed the time to redo the questline.
    Edited by ESO_player123 on February 7, 2026 7:42PM
  • Soarora
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    cyclonus11 wrote: »
    Soarora wrote: »
    Macsen wrote: »
    I am watching a video of this ... mess. Guy is succeeding. But each of these I see seems to out and out REQUIRE playing in third person, which I generally hate and never use on purpose. It' just a battle stuffed into a quest with no real purpose at all. here is a link to the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVc17y704Vw
    Fights on at 4:15
    At 12:53 he finally finishes it off. Eight minutes of grind grind grind. My GAWD I am asleep after 4 minutes. That's how boring it is. Just puts me to sleep. My reaction time is gone, my vision is blurred. my fingers start to ache. all before five minutes.
    ....
    Every Game in the INDUSTRY has these *** Boss Fights that don't do anything and they all involve the same kind of grinding game play. I need a way around this. Or, I will NEVER finish this quest line. and that is really really bad.

    Anyway there is a video. OH and I never get the on screen prompts to do all those thing like "use Ghost Sight, but somewhere along this quest something happened to my game and they flat dissappeared. Now I have to go troubleshoot that before I can continue.

    These boss fights are just purgatory to me. All of them. Is this quest even worth completing? What grand and glorious ending is waiting at the end to make all that effort even worth while?

    I heard an interesting thing in a UBIsoft reveal. The Devs called it "The Effort/Reward ratio". What reward is at the end of this quest that makes this effort, for those of us who are stymied by it, even worth the effort? I have no idea.

    I will say this, for all it is obviously "doable" it is the exact opposite of FUN

    His build is the problem here. He’s beaming with less than 3 crux and spamming light attacks instead of using his spammable. His spammable is also the wrong one for a beam build, he’s not applying the flail debuff. Not even using the taunt, so don’t know why that’s there. I assume by lack of barswapping, he’s in oakensoul and thus doesn’t need the resolve skill either. Inferno isn’t even beneficial for that build, lightning staff is the only one of the staves that’d boost his damage.

    If you’re having trouble and are interested, I can take a look at your build without just trying to shove you into meta.

    This highlights a major issue with the game. There are countless different skills, abilities, armor sets, armor types, weapon sets, weapon types, enchantments, potions, poisons, mundus stones, attributes, constellation points, food, drink, etc., etc., etc. combinations and no real tutorials on how to find the best ones for your play style or how to learn about everything that's out there, or even how everything works together.

    There are things that you or I might think are common sense, but many players may never know or realize even after YEARS of playing. Seemingly simple things like blocking power attacks, not standing in the red, bar swapping, bashing to interrupt channeled abilities, set pieces on your back bar not counting toward your 5-pc set total, etc.

    Totally agree. The floor is low because the game doesn’t teach enough, meanwhile most of the game (except for the end-of-main quest fights as of late) allow you to get by without knowing anything. I’ve recently picked up on just how many people spam light attacks (especially with bows and 2h) and it irks me. You will never do damage by spamming light attacks, the damage done was decreased as part of U35 to decrease the importance of weaving and there’s only, what, 3 or so sets for LAs? You can either build into heavy attacks or use a skill spammable.
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