Now is the time! CAPES ! ! !

ragnarok6644b14_ESO · January 12

Forget capes, we need cloaks so we can clip our way into being False Dreamers

Real Sharmats wear cloaks.

Soarora · January 12

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

The thing that gets me about the no capes argument is that we have base-game hair styles that move. And the flaps on chest pieces. It wouldn’t look the best (especially since the flaps don’t even sit right), but wouldn’t it be technically possible to apply those physics to a cape?

No wings though, except maybe on some polymorphs. Temporary wings from spells makes sense. Walking around with wings doesn’t. I don’t know of a single person in TES to do that (aside from Sarpa argonians) and surely someone would if they could.

There are at least 2, maybe 3 armor styles I the game with "wings"

Nowhere near real wings. I’m all for more armor styles with fake wings like those have. My concern’s more about conjuration, alteration, and illusion magic with people summoning wings for long periods of time. It could be argued that technically someone could, but I’m sure it’s a massive magicka drain and no one’s said to have done it. There could be Dwemer wings that are steampunkish… but certainly not something the average person could get their hands on either.

Malyore · January 12

Soarora wrote: »

wolfie1.0. wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

The thing that gets me about the no capes argument is that we have base-game hair styles that move. And the flaps on chest pieces. It wouldn’t look the best (especially since the flaps don’t even sit right), but wouldn’t it be technically possible to apply those physics to a cape?

No wings though, except maybe on some polymorphs. Temporary wings from spells makes sense. Walking around with wings doesn’t. I don’t know of a single person in TES to do that (aside from Sarpa argonians) and surely someone would if they could.

There are at least 2, maybe 3 armor styles I the game with "wings"

Nowhere near real wings. I’m all for more armor styles with fake wings like those have. My concern’s more about conjuration, alteration, and illusion magic with people summoning wings for long periods of time. It could be argued that technically someone could, but I’m sure it’s a massive magicka drain and no one’s said to have done it. There could be Dwemer wings that are steampunkish… but certainly not something the average person could get their hands on either.

It's less about what could be done and more about what should be done.

We could use dwemer tonal tech to have someone travel back in time from the 5th era and create a cult of digital TV heads from c0da. Lots of cosmetic options open up with that.
But should we?

Again, I think adding wings would be in poor taste.
The skins and mounts in this game are very truly bad enough. And I also very much hope this discussion is moot– that ZOS will never consider adding "MMO wings".

As I had mentioned in my prior replies, capes' integration into the game would need to be considerately and cautiously approached, in order to avoid the same problem.

frogthroat · January 12

If it would come, I would want it as a new slot and not only cosmetic like the disguise slot. I wouldn't mind a 13th slot even if it would mean I need to go back to all dungeons, trials and overlands to get the now-missing back items for all sets.

But on the other hand, it would mess with every existing build idea. It would make it possible to have a full monster set, an always on 5pc set, a 5pc set on one bar, an arena weapon on the other, and a mythic. It would for sure cause power creep and pretty much invalidate all previous builds and create a whole new meta.

edit: Hm. And also other, new combinations like 5pc always on, 5pc front bar and 5pc back bar sets.

Gabriel_H · January 12

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

I feel The clipping argument is just silly...Yes there is clipping, all games has it and ESO is already bad

I understand some people dislike cloaks, but

Honestly guys...It's really simple you don't have to wear them....and if you can tolerate the clipping that already exists in ESO; then someone running by in a cloak won't kill you...also The same folks saying "No Capes" are the exact same folks who said we would never get solo Dungeons.

For the game vets..Just remember how hard Rich worked to make it happen finally giving up in frustration...if a opportunity comes up to do it I can see him taking it...especially if they made Cloaks Crown Store items...that would be a windfall for Zenimax.

ESO is getting long in the tooth...the devs need to add more cosmetic choices....and to be honest I believe this is more about the Schadenfreude of seeing others being denied something than the actual issues Cloaks would bring.

That's my Two shekel's.

A masssively flawed premise if ever I say one.

Just because something bad is already there doesn't mean you should add more of it.
I'm oppossed to capes, unless the have a working physics engine, and without that it probably won't kill me but my OCD may disagree.
I've never said we wouldn't get solo arenas dungeons, just and FYI. (And if you think "Challenge Mode" isn't just ZOS selling you the same old Arena model as something new I have some bad news for you).
ESO is getting old? Yeah, and they are doing entire class refreshes, visual updates, and are constantly putting in new cosmetics.

Gabriel_H · January 12

M0ntie wrote: »

People upset about clipping of capes - how on earth do you cope with all the other clipping, and floating hip flaps and all the other inaccurate aesthetics in the game? You have to see that and you're still here, I'm sure you'll survive with capes.

We complain about it and ask them to fix it. Sadly, instead of investing development time in doing so, ZOS invest in creating shiny baubles to distract the masses.

Warhawke_80 · January 12

Gabriel_H wrote: »

Warhawke_80 wrote: »

I feel The clipping argument is just silly...Yes there is clipping, all games has it and ESO is already bad

I understand some people dislike cloaks, but

Honestly guys...It's really simple you don't have to wear them....and if you can tolerate the clipping that already exists in ESO; then someone running by in a cloak won't kill you...also The same folks saying "No Capes" are the exact same folks who said we would never get solo Dungeons.

For the game vets..Just remember how hard Rich worked to make it happen finally giving up in frustration...if a opportunity comes up to do it I can see him taking it...especially if they made Cloaks Crown Store items...that would be a windfall for Zenimax.

ESO is getting long in the tooth...the devs need to add more cosmetic choices....and to be honest I believe this is more about the Schadenfreude of seeing others being denied something than the actual issues Cloaks would bring.

That's my Two shekel's.

A masssively flawed premise if ever I say one.

Just because something bad is already there doesn't mean you should add more of it.
I'm oppossed to capes, unless the have a working physics engine, and without that it probably won't kill me but my OCD may disagree.
I've never said we wouldn't get solo arenas dungeons, just and FYI. (And if you think "Challenge Mode" isn't just ZOS selling you the same old Arena model as something new I have some bad news for you).
ESO is getting old? Yeah, and they are doing entire class refreshes, visual updates, and are constantly putting in new cosmetics.

Huh...
oh well nothing you said makes me change my mind so we are at a impasse. I know for a fact that if they could they would...so to me it's just a waiting game

whitecrow · January 12

M0ntie wrote: »

100% we need capes! The whole medieval feel of the game needs capes.

People upset about clipping of capes - how on earth do you cope with all the other clipping, and floating hip flaps and all the other inaccurate aesthetics in the game? You have to see that and you're still here, I'm sure you'll survive with capes.

The only clipping I ever noticed on my character was when I used the Troll King bow style and the blade on it kept slicing the top of my head off. Haven't use that style in a long time, so, not really an issue.

SolarRune · January 12

I'm sure capes were part of the early game but they were cut for performance reasons.

BardokRedSnow · January 12

spartaxoxo wrote: »

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Well, I'd much rather rock a cape than a guild tabard that replaces my chestpiece, thats probably the best argument for capes Ive seen.

Good news! Soon you will not need a tabbard to rep your guild.

Oh was that a change they announced? Thats awesome!

LunaFlora · January 12

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

Well, I'd much rather rock a cape than a guild tabard that replaces my chestpiece, thats probably the best argument for capes Ive seen.

Good news! Soon you will not need a tabbard to rep your guild.

Oh was that a change they announced? Thats awesome!

yes for update 49

Syldras · January 12

whitecrow wrote: »

The only clipping I ever noticed on my character was when I used the Troll King bow style and the blade on it kept slicing the top of my head off. Haven't use that style in a long time, so, not really an issue.

Longer hair often clips with collars, and costumes that have some kind of backpack clip with shields and weapons.

But I do think it comes down to individual choice there - if the clipping is too bad, I personally don't use a costume, but I'm not bothered by other people using it. Let's be honest, how long do we look at other characters anyway? I personally see them running past me for a second most of the time so I don't even notice what they're wearing at all.