Its obviously just a lame cash grab with s focus on selling the battlepass.
We all know new zones will quite clearly be lame “event zones”. I actually hate this model, it screams cash grab before end of service. The previous model was perfectly fine.
The first season runs for 2 months, i really doubt theyre gonna churn out quality content for July 2026 after launching Season 0 looo.
Ishtarknows wrote: »Content will be free to play going forward and you only need to spend money on optional cosmetic stuff.
Yes but what content?
All I see so far is temporary content, general housekeeping (bug fixes, skill buffs and nerfs, visual tweaks) and cosmetics.
It's not like we're getting 4 dungeons, a zone and an arena DLC this year for free is it?
Like a large portion of the player base I play this game beause I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world and lore and without new content I'm probably going to get bored and look for something else to play. That saddens me and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
Ishtarknows wrote: »Content will be free to play going forward and you only need to spend money on optional cosmetic stuff.
Yes but what content?
All I see so far is temporary content, general housekeeping (bug fixes, skill buffs and nerfs, visual tweaks) and cosmetics.
It's not like we're getting 4 dungeons, a zone and an arena DLC this year for free is it?
Like a large portion of the player base I play this game beause I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world and lore and without new content I'm probably going to get bored and look for something else to play. That saddens me and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
How many times have people said something like "I'd be happy to miss out on content for a year if they just fix their game" on here?
They seem to be making real efforts to do just that. They're giving us things we've be asking for for years, making the game a better experience, reworking old content to work and look better.
I think that earns them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt and some patience.
We aren't getting the same thing we've been getting for years but that same thing wasn't working. Quality was steadily going down and more people were leaving than joining.
We're not getting nothing this year, it'll just look different. It's not like we're never going to get the things we're used to again (the common opinion is that Winterhold is coming later this year), they've said there'll still be dungeons and different sized zones with seasons. It just won't be to the same cadence. I'm as happy to have a better game for them to land in when then do come.
Ishtarknows wrote: »Content will be free to play going forward and you only need to spend money on optional cosmetic stuff.
Yes but what content?
All I see so far is temporary content, general housekeeping (bug fixes, skill buffs and nerfs, visual tweaks) and cosmetics.
It's not like we're getting 4 dungeons, a zone and an arena DLC this year for free is it?
Like a large portion of the player base I play this game beause I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world and lore and without new content I'm probably going to get bored and look for something else to play. That saddens me and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
How many times have people said something like "I'd be happy to miss out on content for a year if they just fix their game" on here?
They seem to be making real efforts to do just that. They're giving us things we've be asking for for years, making the game a better experience, reworking old content to work and look better.
I think that earns them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt and some patience.
We aren't getting the same thing we've been getting for years but that same thing wasn't working. Quality was steadily going down and more people were leaving than joining.
We're not getting nothing this year, it'll just look different. It's not like we're never going to get the things we're used to again (the common opinion is that Winterhold is coming later this year), they've said there'll still be dungeons and different sized zones with seasons. It just won't be to the same cadence. I'm as happy to have a better game for them to land in when then do come.
What they mean by “new zones” is more than likely these ‘event zones’ which are temporary. That and developing a season every 2/3 months, the content is very obviously not gonna be of quality, potentially AI slop.
LukosCreyden wrote: »We didn't get enough info.
From what i can tell, we're getting a couple questlines, Craglorn 2.0- FOMO Edition and... a naval thing? No new scribing skills? No new skill lines? Nothing to really augment how we interact with the core gameplay? Sorry to be super negative, but it all felt like a lot of self-congratulatory comments and "new ways to earn cosmetics"
What could've happened: new zone, winterhold, featuring an expansion to the scribing system! That would've been nice.
Ishtarknows wrote: »Content will be free to play going forward and you only need to spend money on optional cosmetic stuff.
Yes but what content?
All I see so far is temporary content, general housekeeping (bug fixes, skill buffs and nerfs, visual tweaks) and cosmetics.
It's not like we're getting 4 dungeons, a zone and an arena DLC this year for free is it?
Like a large portion of the player base I play this game beause I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world and lore and without new content I'm probably going to get bored and look for something else to play. That saddens me and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
How many times have people said something like "I'd be happy to miss out on content for a year if they just fix their game" on here?
They seem to be making real efforts to do just that. They're giving us things we've be asking for for years, making the game a better experience, reworking old content to work and look better.
I think that earns them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt and some patience.
We aren't getting the same thing we've been getting for years but that same thing wasn't working. Quality was steadily going down and more people were leaving than joining.
We're not getting nothing this year, it'll just look different. It's not like we're never going to get the things we're used to again (the common opinion is that Winterhold is coming later this year), they've said there'll still be dungeons and different sized zones with seasons. It just won't be to the same cadence. I'm as happy to have a better game for them to land in when then do come.
What they mean by “new zones” is more than likely these ‘event zones’ which are temporary. That and developing a season every 2/3 months, the content is very obviously not gonna be of quality, potentially AI slop.
No, they've said we'll still get regular and chapter sized zones. When asked if we're getting a zone this year they answered "we're not ready to talk about that yet" which isn't a no. In contrast they did say we're not getting dungeons. If they meant we're going to get events zones instead, they would've answered "yes, absolutely! We have a great new event zone in season 0!"
LukosCreyden wrote: »Excellent QoL. Lack of new features is very, very bad for the game though.
@Libonotus
Except we DON'T know that every Zone released in the future will be an event Zone. There is 0 basis to be making that sort of claim. Yeah the price is too high, I was thinking maybe around 10 to 15, but nothing at all indicated even slightly that all Zones would be event ones. You're just giving yourself something to be mad about by asserting that's the case.
@wolfie1.0.
They won't be putting any content like Skill Lines in the Tomes. They mentioned that a couple of times. All gameplay content will be free, including things like Skill Lines.
Ishtarknows wrote: »Content will be free to play going forward and you only need to spend money on optional cosmetic stuff.
Yes but what content?
All I see so far is temporary content, general housekeeping (bug fixes, skill buffs and nerfs, visual tweaks) and cosmetics.
It's not like we're getting 4 dungeons, a zone and an arena DLC this year for free is it?
Like a large portion of the player base I play this game beause I enjoy the Elder Scrolls world and lore and without new content I'm probably going to get bored and look for something else to play. That saddens me and doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
Could always PvP. It's never the same and always competitive.
Books have much better stories that video games.
Glad you see my point. Playing video games for the story is a waste of time when there are so many better options out there.
Glad you see my point. Playing video games for the story is a waste of time when there are so many better options out there.
That's not what I wrote though. I said if you start to compare whether there's a better option for every aspect of gaming outside of gaming, you could end gaming altogether:
- Storytelling is better in (some) books (there's a lot of trash on the market).
- Exploring a landscape is a better experience if you travel or go hiking for real.
- Fights are a better experience as LARP or historical reenactment.
- Riding a horse for real is a better experience than riding one in a game.
To put short: It's not an argument.
But the only way to experience the great combat system in ESO is to play ESO. So that should be the primary focus, not the story.
Books have much better stories that video games.
@Libonotus
Except we DON'T know that every Zone released in the future will be an event Zone. There is 0 basis to be making that sort of claim. Yeah the price is too high, I was thinking maybe around 10 to 15, but nothing at all indicated even slightly that all Zones would be event ones. You're just giving yourself something to be mad about by asserting that's the case.
@wolfie1.0.
They won't be putting any content like Skill Lines in the Tomes. They mentioned that a couple of times. All gameplay content will be free, including things like Skill Lines.
I know they are trying to recover revenue lost from not selling new chapters, but on the other hand they're also not funding the development of new chapters! It makes no sense for the price to be going up versus what one would have paid in the chapter model because we're not getting as much as we did before.
It's just a big, confusing mess. I watched that stream and read about it, and just got pissed off over the whole thing. Trust that it is confusing on purpose to get people spending money. I have started to move to another game. I can't be bothered with all these different systems and them sitting in that stream with fake smiles on their faces. I really felt insulted by it all.