Swimming horses

robertlabrie · December 22

I love that little puddles don't throw you off your mount anymore. That had become very tiresome. Still you shouldn't be able to gallop through water at full speed. At least disable run in water like you do unmounted. Better still would be to dismount after a few seconds, so that small splashes don't dismount but there is still some kind of penalty. As implemented, water isn't a factor at all anymore.

LunaFlora · December 22

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

robertlabrie · December 22

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

AzuraFan · December 22

robertlabrie wrote: »

I love that little puddles don't throw you off your mount anymore. That had become very tiresome. Still you shouldn't be able to gallop through water at full speed. At least disable run in water like you do unmounted. Better still would be to dismount after a few seconds, so that small splashes don't dismount but there is still some kind of penalty. As implemented, water isn't a factor at all anymore.

No. Don't make something fun a drag.

I'm playing Oblivion Remastered right now, and when you're going uphill (walking, running, or riding), your speed slows to a snail's pace. It's really annoying and I don't know why they did that. I don't want to see it in ESO with mounts.

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

It's a game. And how do you know that in the world of Tamriel, horses can't gallop through water at full speed? People can't do magic here on earth, but that doesn't have anything to do with Tamriel, where they can.

LootAllTheStuff · December 22

robertlabrie wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

There are a LOT of things in all of the elder scrolls games that don't make sense in real life. Personally, if my giant wolf or bear mount stopped being able to speed through water and forced a dismount, I would be a bit miffed.

whitecrow · December 22

We certainly do go a bit slower don't we?

Anyway this is what I thought of when I saw this thread:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=HBAOdL0KyWg

scrappy1342 · December 22

it's weird, but it's not something i would complain about. please zos, don't waste time fixing things that aren't broke when you could be working on fun new things or actually broke things. if it bothers you that much, hit your walk button. they made addons for everything these days. maybe someone will make an addon that applies the walking mode when you hit water on your mount

ZOS_Kevin · December 22

We chose not to introduce a friction point with mount swimming. The point overall was to make sure everyone could spend more time going to the next point of interest to have fun, rather than fighting an environmental obstacle.

kojou · December 22

On the hierarchy of things I would like ZOS to fix, this would be in the “things they should never get to” bin.

Just dismount after you have been in the water for 10 seconds, whenever you get in the water so you can personally enjoy the experience and let us have nice things.

Four_Fingers · December 22

Like asking for reduced gold drops.

Cooperharley · December 22

robertlabrie wrote: »

I love that little puddles don't throw you off your mount anymore. That had become very tiresome. Still you shouldn't be able to gallop through water at full speed. At least disable run in water like you do unmounted. Better still would be to dismount after a few seconds, so that small splashes don't dismount but there is still some kind of penalty. As implemented, water isn't a factor at all anymore.

Devs - thank you for the QOL update, please do not listen to this.

ESO_player123 · December 22

It is a great QoL, and thanks to the devs for the decision not to slow down the horses in water. If someone wants to RP, they can always dismount in water.

laniakea_0 · December 22

robertlabrie wrote: »

I love that little puddles don't throw you off your mount anymore. That had become very tiresome. Still you shouldn't be able to gallop through water at full speed. At least disable run in water like you do unmounted. Better still would be to dismount after a few seconds, so that small splashes don't dismount but there is still some kind of penalty. As implemented, water isn't a factor at all anymore.

we already can't sprint in water. otherwise, I would've noticed the mount stamina decreasing.

Soarora · December 22

laniakea_0 wrote: »

robertlabrie wrote: »

I love that little puddles don't throw you off your mount anymore. That had become very tiresome. Still you shouldn't be able to gallop through water at full speed. At least disable run in water like you do unmounted. Better still would be to dismount after a few seconds, so that small splashes don't dismount but there is still some kind of penalty. As implemented, water isn't a factor at all anymore.

we already can't sprint in water. otherwise, I would've noticed the mount stamina decreasing.

This. You can’t sprint whilst swimming on a mount or by hand iirc. So… you can in fact not gallop through water at full speed.

Radiate77 · December 23

Anyone else notice that their glowing horse’s armor disappears when swimming?

Malyore · December 23

robertlabrie wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

As opposed to mounting a daedric flaming meteor horse?

Syldras · December 23

Radiate77 wrote: »

Anyone else notice that their glowing horse’s armor disappears when swimming?

Good I don't own any glowing horses then!

Radiate77 · December 23

Syldras wrote: »

Radiate77 wrote: »

Anyone else notice that their glowing horse’s armor disappears when swimming?

Good I don't own any glowing horses then!

Cheers 🍻

I always hate when games turn into glow-shows because everything not animated or glowing just looks worse by comparison, imho.

scrappy1342 · December 23

Radiate77 wrote: »

Anyone else notice that their glowing horse’s armor disappears when swimming?

clearly the water is extinguishing the glow

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fire-invitation-burn-limitations-of-water-gif-21453128

Radiate77 · December 23

scrappy1342 wrote: »

Radiate77 wrote: »

Anyone else notice that their glowing horse’s armor disappears when swimming?

clearly the water is extinguishing the glow

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-fire-invitation-burn-limitations-of-water-gif-21453128

That would be one thing, but the actual armor on my Meridian radiant is just disappearing when viewing the horse from the side.

Not sure why this is, and it’s not a huge problem, just noticed that it was happening.

Syldras · December 23

Radiate77 wrote: »

I always hate when games turn into glow-shows because everything not animated or glowing just looks worse by comparison, imho.

I'm happy with my non-glowing non-horse.

Radiate77 · December 23

Aardvark goes hard, I wonder why we haven’t had any 2-legged Radiant Apexes yet.

LunaFlora · December 23

Radiate77 wrote: »

Aardvark goes hard, I wonder why we haven’t had any 2-legged Radiant Apexes yet.

we have a Radiant Guar,
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Carnaval_Feathered_Guar

it is in the Carnaval crates from this year.

it was also coincidentally in promotional art for Mount Swimming

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/68403

Radiate77 · December 23

LunaFlora wrote: »

Radiate77 wrote: »

Aardvark goes hard, I wonder why we haven’t had any 2-legged Radiant Apexes yet.

we have a Radiant Guar,
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Carnaval_Feathered_Guar

it is in the Carnaval crates from this year.

it was also coincidentally in promotional art for Mount Swimming

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/68403

Nice! Must have missed those crates. Glad to see our Guar friends get some love.

SilverBride · December 23

Swimming mounts was the most positively impactful change in a very long time. WHY would it need a penalty?

kargen27 · December 23

robertlabrie wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

If I can wave my arm and it just manifests through the ground beneath me water shouldn't slow it down.

katanagirl1 · December 23

I haven’t tried it, since I like going fast, but I think the analog stick of the controller should enable you to swim slower if you like.

Hotdog_23 · December 23

Going to be honest this is the best QOL they added to the game that I initial thought WTH. I was so wrong about it. All credit and props to whoever had this excellent idea. Please don’t change it.

Stay safe and Happy Holidays!!

AzuraFan · December 23

Malyore wrote: »

robertlabrie wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

As opposed to mounting a daedric flaming meteor horse?

Yeah, I always chuckle when people call out one particular thing for realism while ignoring everything else that's unrealistic. It's a FANTASY game. Expect crazy, physics-defying things to happen, or you're playing the wrong genre.

spartaxoxo · December 23

robertlabrie wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

why add a penalty to a widely loved Quality of Life change that was wanted for years?

It makes no sense that a horse can gallop through water at full speed. Unrealistic and inconsistent with the unmounted behavior.

I can appreciate that. But I think sometimes realism needs to take a backseat to fun in a video game. I like the way the system works now. This change was probably the best received change of the year, unfortunately. I don't think it should be made worse now just for the sake of being a bit more realistic.

Deserrick · December 23

Maybe this could be added in Cyrodiil, where the mount swimming changes have led to reduced defensive and offensive use of water.