Why no ancient khajiit, redguard, bosmer motifs?

AnduinTryggva · December 17

Most "races" have their ancient motif styles, even the reik ppl. But not major "races" like khajiit, redguard and bosmer.

tomofhyrule · December 17

Yet another thing that was abandoned...

Let's not even pretend that the ones we have make a lot of sense either - the ancestral Akaviri style came from a zone that... never had much to do with the Akaviri in the first place?

I do wish we'd get the other reworks, particularly if Ancestral Redguard took more after the OG Redguard style that they removed from the game because it was too revealing it didn't look enough like modern t-shirts. However, I do not want them to keep the same stupid Treasure Map lead sourcing. Why they're stuffing more and more into Treasure Maps instead of literally anywhere else is beyond me.

Honestly, they should just allow Treasure Map leads to drop from zone chests as well and then a lot of complaints about the lead sourcing system would go away.

whitecrow · December 17

Would love to see a Khajiit one, as Anequina and Pelletine are my two favourite in-game styles. (And I love the crescent shield from the regular Khajiit style.)

LootAllTheStuff · December 17

Do the vampire Khajiit in N. Elsweyr wear an armour style that's available in-game, or is it unique to them?

Ei8htba11 · December 17

My guess is because Moongrave Fane, Sunspire, Anquina and Pelletine styles fulfil those roles. It was my assumption that 'ancient' styles were added to give those who wanted a higher resolution style of some armour types that choice whilst not touching the base game styles. There was an incident in the past where the Dev team updated Redguard base styles, and it didn't go down too well.

Ratzkifal · December 17

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

Do the vampire Khajiit in N. Elsweyr wear an armour style that's available in-game, or is it unique to them?

@LootAllTheStuff Isn't that just the Hollowfang style from Moongrave Fane?

LootAllTheStuff · December 18

Thanks for the name. I just had a quick look on the wiki and it looks about right although the colours are different to the those shown in the high res images. But apparently there are three different sets in the same style, and the low res images for each version do show differences. Not sure if I've unlocked that style yet, but now I know what to look for I can check more easily next time I'm in game.

Gabriel_H · December 18

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Most "races" have their ancient motif styles, even the reik ppl. But not major "races" like khajiit, redguard and bosmer.

Khajiit:
Crafting Motif 73: Anequina Style - dates back to 1st Century, 1st Era - not sure how more ancient you get.
Crafting Motif 74: Pellitine Style - dates back to the founding of Pellitine.

Redguard:
Crafting Motif 20: Yokudan Style - Yokuda are the ancestors of the Redguard.

Bosmer:
Crafting Motif 11: Ancient Elf Style - Bosmer are descended from the Aldmeri.

LunaFlora · December 18

Y'ffre's Fallen Wood style is very similar to the Heavy Wood Elf armour.
not exactly Ancestral, but close.

i would like more Ancestral versions of old motifs, but not if they come from Treasure Maps again. Treasure Maps are an awful antiquity source.

NotaDaedraWorshipper · December 19

LunaFlora wrote: »

Y'ffre's Fallen Wood style is very similar to the Heavy Wood Elf armour.
not exactly Ancestral, but close.

How? It has wood on it while default bosmer is bone and other animal/insect parts. It's not close.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

AnduinTryggva wrote: »

Most "races" have their ancient motif styles, even the reik ppl. But not major "races" like khajiit, redguard and bosmer.

Khajiit:
Crafting Motif 73: Anequina Style - dates back to 1st Century, 1st Era - not sure how more ancient you get.
Crafting Motif 74: Pellitine Style - dates back to the founding of Pellitine.

Redguard:
Crafting Motif 20: Yokudan Style - Yokuda are the ancestors of the Redguard.

Bosmer:
Crafting Motif 11: Ancient Elf Style - Bosmer are descended from the Aldmeri.

What a strange reasoning. Altmer have a lot of motifs too and an anscestral style. Same for bretons, orcs etc. It's not the same, and the ancient elf style is not related to bosmer at all. Bosmer may not even be descended from aldmeri if theor origin story is true.

It's a pity they stopped with the ancestral motifs when we still got base racial motifs left. Although as tomofhyrule already brought up so is the treasure map leads a terrible way to get them.

I also wish we get old redguard back. Especially with updated textures. Removing the old light redguard was a crime.

LunaFlora · December 19

NotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »

LunaFlora wrote: »

Y'ffre's Fallen Wood style is very similar to the Heavy Wood Elf armour.
not exactly Ancestral, but close.

How? It has wood on it while default bosmer is bone and other animal/insect parts. It's not close.

i was referring to appearance of both styles being similar, not materials. i could have specified, but did not think it would be necessary.

to me the styles look similar, they have a similar shape/form.
Similar is not 100% the same appearance.