What do you get from ESO+ sub now days other than some extra bank and housing storage?

DoofusMax · December 8

BlueJedi2020 wrote: »

I wonder what impact a "Move to Craft Bag" token would make?

For example, a Token costs 1000 Crowns and moves all stored craft items to your craft bag one time.

Speaking for myself, none. There is already a "stow" option in inventory which moves retrieved crafting mats into the craft bag and the sub automatically moves crafting mats to the craft bag as you pick them up, so all you're proposing is 1K crowns for a single-use token which affects the eight storage chests. I can pick up any of those mats to stow them for nothing already and none of my characters is running around with more than about 50 items in their packs anyway (daily alchemy and provisioning writ leftovers, mostly), so it's 1K crowns (~$10) to save a few mouse clicks.

Soarora · December 8

DoofusMax wrote: »

BlueJedi2020 wrote: »

I wonder what impact a "Move to Craft Bag" token would make?

For example, a Token costs 1000 Crowns and moves all stored craft items to your craft bag one time.

Speaking for myself, none. There is already a "stow" option in inventory which moves retrieved crafting mats into the craft bag and the sub automatically moves crafting mats to the craft bag as you pick them up, so all you're proposing is 1K crowns for a single-use token which affects the eight storage chests. I can pick up any of those mats to stow them for nothing already and none of my characters is running around with more than about 50 items in their packs anyway (daily alchemy and provisioning writ leftovers, mostly), so it's 1K crowns (~$10) to save a few mouse clicks.

I think the implication is that it’s for non eso+ members. But I’m seconding none. I have an addon that sorts my materials for me. I sell the very low valued ones and distribute the rest across two storage characters. This works completely fine as I sell excess. People who have never had eso+ can just do that and then move everything over during free eso+ week for crafting.

Tornaad · December 8

SilverBride wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

Also 10% more Tel Var, Alliance points and the two companions.

Access to all DLC game packs

Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store

Access to the Craft Bag

Double bank space

10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates

Bonuses to progression

Increased Furniture placement limits

Costume dyeing

Double Transmute Crystal capacity

Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals

Furniture Vault

10% more Tel Var

10% more Alliance Points

2 free Companions

Free item every month (statuette or painting)

EDIT: Even more perks.

Wow! That's a lot of stuff in ESO+
Thank you for compiling it.

Thormar · December 8

Just wanted to add with some in-game screenshots of ESO+ perks and some current deals.
Some in-game screenshots:
(also, hovering over any of the perks doesn't bring up any info tooltips)

Details on ESO+ perks can be found in the help section:

Some of the Deals:

Danikat · December 8

SilverBride wrote: »

Danikat wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Access to all DLC game packs

Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store

Access to the Craft Bag

Double bank space

10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates

Bonuses to progression

Increased Furniture placement limits

Costume dyeing

Double Transmute Crystal capacity

Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals

Furniture Vault

EDIT: I had forgotten about the Furniture Vault

What bonuses to progression does it give besides the 10% XP and gold boost listed in point 5?

What other bonuses to progression should it give?

I'm not suggesting a change, I'm asking a question. You listed the 10% bonuses as point 5 in your list, and then "bonuses to progression" as a seperate point 6, so I'm asking you what those additional bonuses to progression are.

I can't think of any but I very rarely have ESO+ so I'm wondering what I've forgotten.

Techwolf_Lupindo · December 8

ESO+ has a lot of little things. The craftbag is the big one for me. Then probelly bank space and so on. The rest are nice to have, but are not an attraction.

What I like to see added to ESO+:

Double guild selling slots. Instead of 30, it would be increased to 60.
Unlimited transmutes instead of just doubling it. It can be done as transmutes was increased from 200 to 1000 today.
Book Binder. Where all the motifs, style pages, etc can be placed in. Just like a real life book that can literally hold a 1000 pages and still be hand carried.

tohopka_eso · December 8

SilverBride wrote: »

Access to all DLC game packs

Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store

Access to the Craft Bag

Double bank space

10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates

Bonuses to progression

Increased Furniture placement limits

Costume dyeing

Double Transmute Crystal capacity

Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals

Furniture Vault

EDIT: I had forgotten about the Furniture Vault

That's is why I still get the membership for all the above. 😊
Plus the other stuff you mentioned. I don't PvP and my bank is overflowing with AP and telvar which is from the daily log ins. I just bank it.

shadyjane62 · December 8

Craft bag === freedom to play. No craft bag === an extensive course in inventory management.

Next year no sub because crafting isn't worth it any more.

Thormar · December 8

Danikat wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

I'm not suggesting a change, I'm asking a question. You listed the 10% bonuses as point 5 in your list, and then "bonuses to progression" as a seperate point 6, so I'm asking you what those additional bonuses to progression are.I can't think of any but I very rarely have ESO+ so I'm wondering what I've forgotten.

I know your question is directed at SilverBride and not me, but since it's about clarification, here are the details on ESO+ progression perks as seen in-game:

The actual 10% bonus text on the above screenshot is:
"10% BONUSES:
While your ESO Plus membership is active, you will gain 10% more Experience from all sources, 10% more Gold from all sources, 10% more Alliance Points (Currency, PvP skill lines, and Alliance rank only), 10% more Tel Var Stones (monster kills only), 10% more Archival Fortunes from sources in the Infinite Archive, 10% more Inspiration from crafting and crafting quests, and 10% faster Trait Research speeds.

Basically, SilverBride listed pretty much all perks, the only additional detail I see in the above text quote that SilverBride didn't specifically mention is AP xp.

SilverBride · December 8

I copied the original list from the ESO website but it hadn't mentioned some things, like the Furniture Vault. I added other items as they were pointed out. I'll remove some that really are duplicates.

Access to all DLC game packs
Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store
Access to the Craft Bag
Double bank space
Bonuses to Progression - 10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates. 10% more Tel Var and Alliance Points.
Increased Furniture placement limits
Costume dyeing
Double Transmute Crystal capacity
Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals
Furniture Vault
Free item every month (statuette or painting)

EDIT: Clarified the list

SummersetCitizen · December 8

shadyjane62 wrote: »

Next year no sub because crafting isn't worth it any more.

This was the final reason I had to cancel.

I don’t support the new “content pass” model.

The player population and economy continue to shrink. I have zero faith ZOS will do anything to improve it.

jm42 · December 8

eso+ is totally useless now for long time players, I bought all the dlcs with gifted crowns from it long ago and for a craft bad + double space and other "features" the price is unreasonable. eather they will make like custom plans or I won't be subbing again. I am also not interested in dungeons and only bought it with free crowns just for the sake of collection but now I am forced to pay for them if I decide to buy their season pass ever again and double pay through eso+. something must be done about the sub

LPapirius · December 8

Tornaad wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

Also 10% more Tel Var, Alliance points and the two companions.

Access to all DLC game packs

Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store

Access to the Craft Bag

Double bank space

10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates

Bonuses to progression

Increased Furniture placement limits

Costume dyeing

Double Transmute Crystal capacity

Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals

Furniture Vault

10% more Tel Var

10% more Alliance Points

2 free Companions

Free item every month (statuette or painting)

EDIT: Even more perks.

Wow! That's a lot of stuff in ESO+
Thank you for compiling it.

The list reminds of the starter packs sold in the crown store. Sure, there is a lot of items. They're all just basically worthless is the problem.

Melivar · December 8

All of the perks are pretty useful to my daily/weekly play in addition to general support for the game I enjoy.

Crowns and then all of the inventory management would be top things at this point in my journey but as i was beginning many of the other perks were also super helpful.

With the ESO + Crowns and 1 Large Pack when on sale I am able to get pretty much anything I find interesting for one of my characters.

Pretty sure I could play the game without ESO+ with little stress at this point but the cost is minimal to my financial situation.

As long as i am content with the track of the game which I am currently I will continue to subscribe but on a monthly basis so i can actually vote with my wallet if I feel the need.

LPapirius · December 8

SummersetCitizen wrote: »

shadyjane62 wrote: »

Next year no sub because crafting isn't worth it any more.

This was the final reason I had to cancel.

I don’t support the new “content pass” model.

The player population and economy continue to shrink. I have zero faith ZOS will do anything to improve it.

ZOS has already shrunk their content creation to as low a level as they possibly can, but they haven't reduced their prices, haven't fixed many bugs, and they're still retroactively fixing the 2025 content pass. So far we see nothing proposed for 2026 content, and 2/3rds of the player base have stated they will not pre order any content going forward, so sales will look very low to ZOS' corporate managers.

There aren't enough players left in ESO to support the trading system, so no reason to participated in trades and trade guilds anymore for the most part. So not much need for a craft bag anymore...at least not if we've had it active for many years previously. ZOS is threatening to permanently mandate vengeance, which will kill the PvP portions of the game and remove the need for PvP players to PvE for any reason, so less income there.

What is ZOS doing now days that's going to save their company from a massive corporate restructuring at this point? Anything?

Majkiy · December 8

Craft bag
Crowns to sell for gold

Nemesis7884 · December 8

they could easily add things to make it much more interesting - for example things like free change of hair, eye, skin color....

10% higher rate to gain in game currencies

etc etc.... probably a lot of options that wouldnt cost ZOS a lot and add value

tincanman · December 8

A mini-statuette once a month, obviously.

Which I usually forget to collect.

SilverBride · December 8

tincanman wrote: »

A mini-statuette once a month, obviously.

Which I usually forget to collect.

Sometimes it's a painting instead.

freespirit · December 8

I have two accounts with ESO+ and one without, I also have my own Guild Bank from a guild that was started on 30/03/2014.

I haven't brought any DLC's besides the yearly chapter so for my main two accounts it means access to the whole game.

I don't buy crowns so again it provides me with crowns to spend.

I love my houses and could not imagine only having half the spaces!!

I didn't realise until recently how useless Dye Stamps are and last free ESO+ I dyed all the gear on my third account!

I am a hoarder and even with the extra bank slots I still play the inventory game, mainly with furnishings if I'm honest..... recently I dismantled three early housing builds, that's 2100 traditional furnishing items, ok some were doubles many were not.

I do daily writs on all three accounts but if I can't be bothered the non ESO+ account is the first to be dropped.

ESO+ leaves me more time to do what I want to do whilst playing and that is why I maintain it but I also understand why many are now disenchanted with its value for money.

smallhammer · December 8

I love the craft bag. Can't do without it.

Al_Ex_Andre · December 8

I believe that getting and keeping ESO+ is better deal, than buying every single chapter/dungeon pack.
I also won't do crafting dailies if I don't have ESO+, due to not have the crafting bag at my disposal. Or I would limit my crafting to the professions that don't need massive numerous ingredients...even if I do have my personal guild.

For every single hour I spend in-game, I thank ESO+ anyway. A bargain for these numerous hours I spend In-game. Of course the OP has bought every single chapter/dungeon pack for instance, so there's way less incentive to keep ESO+ that way..^^

SwordOfSagas · December 9

At the end of the day if everyone who likes ESO plus just stopped paying for it and other (useless) things in the store the game wouldn't exist.

LPapirius · December 9

SwordOfSagas wrote: »

At the end of the day if everyone who likes ESO plus just stopped paying for it and other (useless) things in the store the game wouldn't exist.

Or maybe ZOS would have to fix their game and make it more viable and popular.

wolfie1.0. · December 9

ESO+ has the best IRL money conversion to Crown ratio that exists outside of sales or special deals. Once you factor The other benefits in it gets better.

But ya you can survive without it. Or even just a periodic sub.

wolfie1.0. · December 9

BlueJedi2020 wrote: »

I wonder what impact a "Move to Craft Bag" token would make?

For example, a Token costs 1000 Crowns and moves all stored craft items to your craft bag one time.

You can bet it would be account bound if it existed, and you would be better off just subbing for one month instead.

Pops_ND_Irish · December 9

SaffronCitrusflower wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

Access to all DLC game packs

Free crowns for the in-game Crown Store

Access to the Craft Bag

Double bank space

10% increase to Experience & Gold acquisition, Crafting Inspiration, Trait Research, and Archival Fortunes acquisition rates

Bonuses to progression

Increased Furniture placement limits

Costume dyeing

Double Transmute Crystal capacity

Exclusive access to unique Crown Store deals

1- already have the DLC's
2- crowns aren't free with ESO+, they're purchased with real money
3- don't miss craft bag a bit
4- don't need double bank space, only have 125 items in bank as is
5-10% increase is nothing, and I've already completed all content except east Solstice
6- same point as #5
7- don't do housing, with they'd remove it and sell the system as a separate game
8- don't care about costumes or dying....or really about much of anything cosmetic at all. I care about the game.
9- They could give us 100x the transmute storage capacity and I'd still be full. Should be able to sell these boxes in store.
10- 10% sale is not much of a sale, especially given how overpriced everything to do with crown store is already

Sorry, but you just made the case as to why I SHOULDN'T be subbing.

hehehehehe

Toanis · December 9

For subscribing to buy a big bunch of crowns at a discount, I get the craft bag, double bank space and decoration limits etc. but also access to all dungeon DLCs as well as the story zones from the previous seasons, in a chill after-season setting without silly mandatory fun party events.