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Not Banning Blatant Cheaters, What the actual heck, ZOS

WuffyCerulei
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A couple weeks ago, I had sent in a ticket to Support about a player that was clearly seeing me through stealth through cheats. I sent them a video showing such the case as well. I should preface that, no, I was NOT revealed by mage's light/expert hunter/revealing flare, in their detection radius, or even just hit by an AOE damage skill that will force people out of stealth. I was sprinting in the Vampire Stage 4 stealth. That will keep me invisible through a detection radius (usually), like the Nightblade invis. I was straight up smacked by single target, needing-to-see-the-target skills. I will not name who this player is, nor will I post the video here to follow the No Naming and Shaming rules here.

And what was I sent in return after 2 weeks after sending in the evidence of this blatant cheating? This:
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How are we NOT banning these cheating players? Just give them a slap on the wrist? The shear amount of disrespect the ZOS support has towards honest players is disgusting. So what if these players pay this company money? So do all the non-cheating players, the new players, the veteran players. Absolutely disgusting to get such a response when there was a clear violation of the rules and CLEAR cheating.
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  • Dalsinthus
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    Are you certain they didn’t use a detect pot?
  • WuffyCerulei
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    Dalsinthus wrote: »
    Are you certain they didn’t use a detect pot?

    I am pretty certain. The player smacked me while I was actively invisible, not revealed or detected.
    Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's
  • React
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    Detect pots don't pull you out of stealth, they just allow the user to see stealthed enemies and hit them with direct damage to pull them out of stealth.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    React wrote: »
    Detect pots don't pull you out of stealth, they just allow the user to see stealthed enemies and hit them with direct damage to pull them out of stealth.

    According to UESP https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Invisibility:

    Invisibility causes you to be undetectable by enemies for a short time, instantly entering stealth. This effect differs from traditional stealth in that it is not broken by damage over time effects or an enemy's detection radius. An invisible enemy can still be revealed through the use of stealth suppressing abilities or damage from ground-targeted effects.

    Being invisible through the Unnatural Movement for vampires and Nightblade cloak, stealth detection radius and DOTs don't force people out of invisibility nor can they be seen. I was invisible through the Vampire invisibility, so I'm pretty sure.
    Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's
  • React
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    React wrote: »
    Detect pots don't pull you out of stealth, they just allow the user to see stealthed enemies and hit them with direct damage to pull them out of stealth.

    According to UESP https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Invisibility:

    Invisibility causes you to be undetectable by enemies for a short time, instantly entering stealth. This effect differs from traditional stealth in that it is not broken by damage over time effects or an enemy's detection radius. An invisible enemy can still be revealed through the use of stealth suppressing abilities or damage from ground-targeted effects.

    Being invisible through the Unnatural Movement for vampires and Nightblade cloak, stealth detection radius and DOTs don't force people out of invisibility nor can they be seen. I was invisible through the Vampire invisibility, so I'm pretty sure.

    Your detection radius, which is what is referred to in this article, is the base radius which you pull crouched players from stealth when they are not using shadowy disguise or vamp 4 invis. It is what gets increased by certain things like the CP passive, medium armor passive, etc.

    Detection pots grant you a buff called detection, which allows you to see stealthed enemies without pulling them from stealth. You can then attack them directly with direct damage, dots, etc, which will then pull them from stealth.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    React wrote: »
    React wrote: »
    Detect pots don't pull you out of stealth, they just allow the user to see stealthed enemies and hit them with direct damage to pull them out of stealth.

    According to UESP https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Invisibility:

    Invisibility causes you to be undetectable by enemies for a short time, instantly entering stealth. This effect differs from traditional stealth in that it is not broken by damage over time effects or an enemy's detection radius. An invisible enemy can still be revealed through the use of stealth suppressing abilities or damage from ground-targeted effects.

    Being invisible through the Unnatural Movement for vampires and Nightblade cloak, stealth detection radius and DOTs don't force people out of invisibility nor can they be seen. I was invisible through the Vampire invisibility, so I'm pretty sure.

    Your detection radius, which is what is referred to in this article, is the base radius which you pull crouched players from stealth when they are not using shadowy disguise or vamp 4 invis. It is what gets increased by certain things like the CP passive, medium armor passive, etc.

    Detection pots grant you a buff called detection, which allows you to see stealthed enemies without pulling them from stealth. You can then attack them directly with direct damage, dots, etc, which will then pull them from stealth.

    And the article just straight up says that being invisible through Cloak and Unnatural Movement that an enemy's detection radius won't pick the invisible person up. I can straight up run right by someone's butt cheeks in invisible if they aren't cheating to see invisible people. The player was indeed cheating to see me.
    Sorcerer's pretty much been the same for years. Nerf Rush of Agony and Saints&Seducer's
  • imPDA
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    There are two different mechanics of invisibility. Since people often name these things differently, I'll stick with the following naming convention:

    - stealth - invisibility when you crouch. This is easily revealed, as an enemy can come close to you to see you.
    - detection radius - the radius within which you can detect a stealthing enemy (i.e., come close and see the enemy crouching).
    - invisibility ("true Invisibility") - invisibility granted by a skill (like a nightblade's Cloak, a Vampire's sprint, or an Invisibility Potion). It cannot be revealed by an enemy simply coming close, as stated on UESP (and this is true), but it STILL CAN BE REVEALED by:
    - detection potions (and there is no way to know if a person has used one. Well, you will know when you receive damage from them :P)
    - skills (like Revealing Flare)
    - sets (like the Sentry set)

    Each method has its own revealing radius in which it can see an invisible enemy, so if you run far away, detection potion will not be able to reveal you. Each method also works differently: for example, Revealing Flare removes invisibility from target completely, while a detection potion allows you to see target but does not remove invisibility from target and nightblade's Piercing Mark allows you to see a marked target but does not remove the target's invisibility as well.

    So, to detect you, this person is using potions (most likely). I can show you how it works if you want, or you can find information online, or if you have friends in game, ask them to help you with testing, just use NB's cloak to get invisibility and try to use detection potion, NB's Mark and Revealing Flare to see what they do. Hf!
  • Rogue_Coyote
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    It was 100% an experienced pvp player who used a detect pot against you. As React stated, detect pots do not notify you that you are detected.
    I kill bombers and blades all the time using this method.
    It never hurts to report what seems as a suspicious activity IMO so I will still say thank you for reporting.
    Edited by Rogue_Coyote on November 26, 2025 3:31PM
  • allochthons
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    Or they were wearing the Sentry set, which allows you to see everyone, regardless of stealth:

    Bonuses
    2 items: Adds 25-1096 Maximum Stamina
    3 items: Adds 3-129 Weapon and Spell Damage
    4 items: Adds 15-657 Critical Chance
    5 items: Adds 6-266 Weapon and Spell Damage
    5 items: When you begin to crouch, gain Stealth Detection for 10 seconds. This effect can only be activated every 30 seconds.

    I've used it to see nightblades and vamps in ImpCity.
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  • YandereGirlfriend
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    You ever heard of the Sentry set?

    Best to fully understand the relevant mechanics before throwing around accusations like that.

    I am sure that the game has some small percentage of cheaters but 99% of the time accusations are made by players who simply do not understand the game at the proper level.
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