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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/684716

Halloween event keep increasing mindless extremely terrible players.

AvalonRanger
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Halloween event keep increasing mindless extremely terrible players. :s

People just do queue normal dungeon only for event reward without any of preparation,
They come to rand with fake tank or fake healer, or terrible high CP DPS. Or, people aren't
willing to study dungeon mech or building tactics.
And they don't have chance to learn decent team playing with these stupid Halloween event.

These event just keep increasing mindless speed runners.
I'm tired of current event style so much. Remove reward from dungeon in next time.

(No option. answer "yes" or "no")
Edited by AvalonRanger on October 31, 2025 2:06PM
My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
with [1Stam Blade].
But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

2023/12/21
By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

2024/08/23
Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.

Halloween event keep increasing mindless extremely terrible players. 44 votes

Yes. Halloween event system is toxic. Need improvement.
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AvalonRangerLatentBuzzardWup_sa 3 votes
No, this is fine
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  • Islyn
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    No, this is fine
    Whatever it is a couple weeks - if you're queueing random normal u get what u get.
    Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 2013
  • valenwood_vegan
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    Other: if random groups are so bad, then that feature should be removed, rather than adjusting the rest of the game in a futile attempt to force random strangers to behave in a particular way.

    Seriously, if you want teamwork and players who are looking to study and learn together and enforce proper roles, put some effort in and find a team that wants to play that way.
  • Asdara
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    No, this is fine
    “study dungeon mech”
    “building tactics”
    Sir, in random NORMAL dungeon?
    What mechs you want me to study in fungal grotto 1? What tactics you need in random dungeon 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    This is lunacy
    “The Second Era? Oh, you mean the BEAM Era. Because apparently every problem could be solved with a giant glowing light shooting at everything.”
  • Orbital78
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    I haven't even done dungeons for this event. People doing them would queue for FG1 if not just solo it. You're probably just experiencing the state of the current game, casuals that haven't moved on or aren't doing the real events.
  • duagloth
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    No, this is fine
    Normals are soloable, but need the transmutes
  • AvalonRanger
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    Yes. Halloween event system is toxic. Need improvement.
    Asdara wrote: »
    “study dungeon mech”
    “building tactics”
    Sir, in random NORMAL dungeon?
    What mechs you want me to study in fungal grotto 1? What tactics you need in random dungeon 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    This is lunacy

    Yea! this is problem. :s Developer keep mixing dlc and non dlc for those type of event.


    My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
    I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

    2023/12/21
    By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
    Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

    2024/08/23
    Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
  • AvalonRanger
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    Yes. Halloween event system is toxic. Need improvement.
    Other: if random groups are so bad, then that feature should be removed, rather than adjusting the rest of the game in a futile attempt to force random strangers to behave in a particular way.

    Seriously, if you want teamwork and players who are looking to study and learn together and enforce proper roles, put some effort in and find a team that wants to play that way.

    I knew it actually how normal rand is terrible. :* Just... shocked little bit. :s
    My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
    I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

    2023/12/21
    By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
    Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

    2024/08/23
    Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
  • reazea
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    They need to adjust their loot tables for the event, that's for sure. Most of what were getting in our gold boxes should be in the past events grab bag at the vendor, not in our drops.

    I wouldn't call the event toxic, but there isn't any incentive to participate beyond the two event tickets. That's the problem. With a few minor adjustments ZOS could have kept the event fresh.
  • Sarannah
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    No, this is fine
    Dungeons as a whole can be toxic, and need some fixing to prevent speedrunners/fake roles. Has nothing to do with this event, so the reward should stay.
  • spartaxoxo
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    No, this is fine
    I would have selected other and agreed with you that there is an underlying issue but that disabling the rewards box is not the solution. But since you decided that other is not a valid opinion, I'll just say no.
    Edited by spartaxoxo on October 31, 2025 3:14PM
  • aetherix8
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    No, this is fine
    Every toxic behavior described in the OP is happening all year round regardless of any event imho. It’s how pugs might go wrong, and frankly, there are more issues during undaunted than now. Best solution (already proposed): make your own group or join a like minded guild.
    PC EU - V4hn1
  • Soarora
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    No, this is fine
    Doing dungeons is how I get most of my plunder skulls, I would not like to see them removed from dungeons. Why do you do random normals anyways? You might as well do random vet to avoid most of the fake role speedrunners, they take about the same amount of time these days and you seem a competent player.
    Edited by Soarora on October 31, 2025 5:02PM
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  • spartaxoxo
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    No, this is fine
    Also playing New World gave me a new perspective on the rushing. That game made it so you were required to have the capability of tanking/healing to queue as those roles. And people rushed the expeditions (equivalent to our dungeons) anyway.

    Fake tanking/healing has little to do with rushing. Once people have seen the place a bunch of times, they just don't want to hear it again and will move as fast possible to just get to the end goal.
  • Ryori729
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    The events do amplify the issue. You want the containers so people tend to try to go as fast as possible which creates a sloppy run, not a speed run. I run my Randoms on normal so it usually isn't a big issue, but it is frustrating when someone zooms ahead, agros the dungeon, pulls you to a boss then you have to go hunt for the mob stuck on the wall to go thru a door.

    During the undaunted event, if I got Fungal I, I just gave up and stood there and let them go. If they aren't going to fight anything, I'll just take the teleport to the boss.

    But I do get frustrated when the zoomer doesn't know the dungeon. Like Wayrest II when they just stand there at the boss which is immune. I've just waited to see how long they'll attack an immune boss. Or as noted, they agro everything then stand at a door not knowing why they can't get thru it.

  • HappyTheCamper
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    No, this is fine
    Xbox NA - I’ve ran 10 or so normal randoms every day of the event this year and surprisingly nearly every single group I’ve been in has been awesome. I’ve been trying to power level all my sub classing lines (and I succeeded Wednesday!)

    All my dungeons have had great groups (except one Moonhunter keep we had a fake tank that we kicked because they were also slow and did not do mechanics. We actually had an easier time without him!)

    It actually made me miss running dungeons! I havent ran that many back to back in years!
  • AvalonRanger
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    Yes. Halloween event system is toxic. Need improvement.
    Honestly say, I've never seen better tank or healer than me in the normal rand so far.
    So I know it's not only in event period. But recently, it's getting worse than usual.
    My playing time Mon-Friday UTC13:00-16:00 [PC-NA] CP over2000 now.
    I have [1Tough tank] [1StamSorc-DD] [1Necro-DD] [1Real Healer]
    with [1Stam Blade].
    But, I'm Tank main player. Recently I'm doing Healer.

    2023/12/21
    By the way...Dungeon-Meshi(One of Famous Japanese fantasy story comic book) got finale...
    Good-bye "King of Monster Eater".

    2024/08/23
    Farewell Atsuko Tanaka...(-_-) I never forget epic acting for major Motoko Kusanagi.
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