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Given the issues this year, will you pre-order in 2026?

  • Aorcain
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    I've already regretted pre-purchasing Gold Road, decided to give ZOS last chance this year for some reason. Yeah, no. Not a chance. I'm done. Stopped paying for my ESO+ 2 months ago as well, not going to renew it.
    Event's a complete mess, new zone stories are boring, repetitive and extremely dumb. And Content Pass model... no comment.

    I love TESO, I really do. I wouldn't be playing it for nearly 7 years, if I didn't. But ZOS's decisions these last 2 and even 3 years are just making me sad and frustrated with game's current state. I wish this game all the best but I'm not going to support it until something will change.
  • DarkStrifeYT
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    Yeah... I'm kinda done at this point, usually I get stuff on day 1 but the last few zone dlcs have been disappointing to say the least. I thought gold coast was bad back then because not much was given at the time and the fact the guild skill line required constant repetitive quests like the thieves guild but the thieves guild did add new stuff that was useful and gave ledgerdmain a use other than using lockpicks.
    I am dark strife. Khajiit since arena... ya know when they were humans... with face paint... still khajiit only all games...
  • Ttree
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    Could i ask for more choices in the Poll

    1 I feel cheated out of my hard earned money and would like it back .

    2 Were do i go for my refund .
  • agelonestar
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    I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
    Ttree wrote: »
    Could i ask for more choices in the Poll

    1 I feel cheated out of my hard earned money and would like it back .

    2 Were do i go for my refund .

    Haha yeah same - that’s the follow-up poll ;)
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  • Mattymoo92
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    Don’t Know
    For me, ESO in 2025 has been a disaster.

    I can’t think of a single person who was happy about the move from Chapters to Season Pass, but i think we can safely say that whatever you felt about it when Seasons was announced, the implementation hasn’t gone well.
    • The volume of new content has shrunk more than a Wagon Wheel (UK joke).
    • QoL updates have gone by the wayside.
    • No new Companions. Or Skills. Or Races. Or Classes. Or anything actually.
    • No major combat updates.
    • Events have no new quests.
    • Everything is bugged to hell and takes too long to fix - except ToT ofc.
    • And communication is as bad as it’s ever been - a new low maybe.

    So I wondered, is it just me, or will 2025’s Season Pass affect your decision to pre-order whatever comes out next year?

    For me, I won’t pre-order. I’m not spending any more cash until I can see what they release. It will be my first year of not pre-ordering on at least three accounts, which is pretty sad.

    I’m really not sure, this is the ONLY time I’ve regretted buying it which isn’t a good sign but who knows maybe next year will be different
  • Alastrine
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    Money is tight and I can't say I was very impressed with this years stuff - not at the price it cost. Maybe if it was half the price I'd think it was acceptable but it wasn't up to the price level charged, for sure.

    So I will wait and see. May not buy bc of money, may not bc it just isn't worth it to me or maybe they change the price level (probably not but just saying). Will decide when the time comes.

    For prebuys, I haven't been impressed with the pkgs for the last few years. I don't need another mount covered in whatever, or another pet. Offer me crowns with my prebuy or an impressive house (THAT ISN'T GOING TO BE OFFERED TO EVERYONE 6 MONTHS LATER!!!! Make it STRICTLY a prebuy house... forever!!). I hate buying special stuff only to have everyone whine a year later that they want it too and its offered again.
  • aussie500
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    I usually pre-order for my main account and wait for a bargain for my other two accounts, but after this experience I will wait and see what they offer us for 2026. Maybe I would be happy with what I have, plenty to do without a new area and I hardly do dungeons these days so I could do without them.
  • Veinblood1965
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    I was not happy at all with subclassing (it's a grind, it felt insulting to me to cost two skill points, just give us the stupid changes free of a grind, or at least not that much of a grind), but then on the first day of the writhing wall event I started with the crafting dailies, really? Run here take the quest, walk ten feet craft an item, walk back turn it in? Then did a few more and the rewards were junk (once in a lifetime junk though, but junk)I literally turned off my auto renew for ESO and am done and haven't logged back in since. I've played almost every day since Summerset if that says anything. What the kicker is i PAID for the season pass which includes the last half of Solstice and I still quit lol. Tired of the constant tone deaf changes the last two years.

    Don't get me wrong, I want the game to succeed which is why I'm on the forums for a while. It was a beautifully designed game for a long time. It has not been for a while now however. Not saying there have not been improvements but the negatives outweigh those. My trust is gone.

    It just feels like every major change was done to alienate the player base and drive people away. It's almost like it was deliberate, as one example the change from 30 day vendoring to 14 days. A huge change, there were many people who just loved vendoring myself included. I really did not care about the shorter duration but the COST did not go down. It's only stupid ingame gold, why not just halve the cost also to be respectful to the players? In real life if a business did that sort of thing, we are reducing the duration you can list your items online but still charging you the same amount they would be out of business, period. As I said tone-deaf...

    All that being said, I do not feel this is the design teams fault. I suspect it has to do with Microsoft forcing changes for whatever reason as a lot of the discontent I've had with the game started around 2021 when chapter releases started being less detailed and has only gotten worse.
    Edited by Veinblood1965 on October 29, 2025 12:55PM
  • Jordan_Black
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    I will probably pre-order but yet to decide
    They're going to need to do better next year, but I'm pretty sure I'll preorder. I've been playing and enjoying this game since beta, the Solstice business isn't going to kill it for me. We did get four new fun and interesting dungeons this year too, and dungeons are one of my favorite parts of ESO.

    That said, the whole Solstice business is pretty lackluster. It's okay as a zone, it looks neat, the music is fun, the story is mediocre but not terrible, and the wall event was kind of clever if buggy. But I'm used to this game being buggy when something new comes out. The fact there was nothing else new released (class, companion, feature, whatever) makes it feel a bit lackluster.
  • Sheridan
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    I will definitely pre-order regardless
    Yes. I always do. I just hope there will be still somethung to preorder.
  • L_Nici
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    I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
    I do not preorder since Elsweyr. Since then I am usually waiting for the discount in late summer. Honestly, if I had paid up to 80€ for the mess we had this year, I would be livid.
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  • Destai
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    I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
    I’m one of the players who has no idea where this “we want change!” idea came from. I actually liked the Chapter model since we had some idea what was coming (dungeons, then huge zone and new feature, then QoL or more dungeons, then little DLC or other tentpole). But now, all we have is change for the sake of change and more questions than answers, coupled with an impossibly overhyped event that overstayed its welcome and doesn’t even measure up to the ones we used to have.

    I'm totally with you on this. I really liked the Chapter model. Content wise, it was great. Big stories, big zones, new systems. My only real gripe was the cliffhanger story writing.

    And yes, there are way more questions than answers. My post history is littered with them.
    There is one thing that they could announce that would get me to preorder the next Pass sight unseen: a new Class. Announce that there’s a new Class coming next year, and that’ll instantly be worth the $50 (or even more if it’s an Artificer). If they don’t have that up their sleeve, then I can wait. I have other games in my backlog.
    (*ok, fine, there is a second hyperspecific thing that could also get me: if one of the premium early adopter goodies was a brown werebear skin for the werewolves.)

    For me to preorder blindly again, I need more meaningful content for my characters. IA was the last big system and has broader reaching rewards than just sets. Chasing overland sets doesn't do it for me anymore. My time in the game is spent on skyshards and stories. So while a new class would be cool, that's all I'd really do on them.
    And I don’t take “it’s a transition year!” as an adequate response. First, I grew up with the military, so the euphemism “transition” has always meant one thing to me: transitioning from open to closed. As soon as I heard that, that just screamed “maintenance mode.” But even if we want to take that word at face value, then there should be an end goal. Why do we still not have a single clue about what they’re transitioning to? All we have are “we can’t wait to reveal things!” Ok, then do it already!

    It's pretty frustrating they keep posting things in the “we can’t wait to reveal things!” fashion. I'm not sure how people could be more clear, but they keep doing it. Meanwhile, it's taking forever to get any roadmap on where combat's going. Other studios can publish these things all the time. I've seen GW2 laying out their plans. Same for FF14.

    It's not hard. And it's not really a time to be tight-lipped either. Given what's been happening in the gaming world, it's weird they're not going well out of their way to inspire confidence in players. I would think that'd include just doing what your customers are asking of you on a communication front. Easy wins.
    And I can’t not complain about how insufficient the responses to the PTS were all year. So many reported issues from PTS week 1 end up going live that it’s almost like the devs don’t read a single piece of feedback. If I see a major enough bug, I have to send the forum link to one of my StreamTeam friends who can then post it in their secret Creator Discord server for a chance that it may get noticed. And that’s not even considering how some major issues like the U33 Account-wide achieves or the U35 Jabs change or the U41 Class style locking or U46 Subclassing get massive threads full of feedback that is summarily ignored… and then the playerbase reacts exactly like the testers warned they would.

    I've found their handling of PTS this year and our feedback about it, more frustrating than U35. For me, the biggest frustration is asking CMs questions and just not hearing anything back. People are asking why PTS feedback isn't making it to live. That should be a question that gets answered. Really frustrating that it's not. It's not like ignoring the sentiments about PTS will make them go away.

    Edited by Destai on October 29, 2025 6:28PM
  • kah
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    Admittedly, I'm very bummed out by NW's recent news (especially with its relation to the AI hype train 🙄), so it could be affecting how I feel about the future of MMOs in general. But I don't have a lot of hope for ESO at present. I won't be giving anymore money to this game (and I've given plenty!) unless I see some significant positive changes. I'm continuing with my resolution of no ESO+, not even for a month, no expansions, no crown store purchases. Nothing. I'm playing what I've already paid for and that's it for me.
  • LPapirius
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    I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
    I did not purchase the 2025 content pass, and I won't until it's on sale for $15-20 next year. From what I've seen that's what the content is worth, so that's what I'll pay, or I'll go without.

    The FOMO is dead and gone for me and I blame the marketing practices for the apathy.
  • Eldartar
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    I don't know because I don't know if I will be still playing in 2026. I have been playing since Beta, never taken a break because I have loved playing this game over the years, made some amazing friends.

    For me the cracks started with the nightmare that was update 35, so many of my guild friends left, some of my guilds just died but I carried on playing the game I love.

    To cut a long story short, we got to 2025 and the way ZOS is headed, KEY personal leaving or moving sideways within the company. People that were the inspiration and driving force behind the game. then it was announced that the format would change from Chapters to Season Pass and I was so disappointed with this move and over the last couple of years I have noticed more and more people leaving, areas rather empty of people, resources untouched etc etc.

    Anyway, I feel this may well be my last year playing Elder Scrolls Online. Even though I have invested thousands and thousands of hours in this game and I guess thousands of English pounds in to this game. I have no regrets. overall, I have love every second of it, the good and the bad.

    This year has just been a change too far for me, everyone has their own limits and I have reached mine with the game going forward as it stands.
  • Hamfast
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    I will definitely pre-order regardless
    My wife and I have been playing since the Beta... so this is like 3 votes.
    Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...
  • Arizona_Steve
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    ZOS should never have sold out to Microsoft.

    As a result they put ESO in direct competition with WoW, also owned by Microsoft. It's pretty apparent at this point which of the two is getting the lion's share of the resources. With the layoffs it feels like ZoS has been reduced to a couple of developers. And knowing Microsoft, probably a lot of CoPilot slop too.

    With Bethesda Softworks as part of that organization, I really fear for Elder Scrolls 6.

    I still have not bought the 2025 season pass and I will be following a similar strategy in 2026.
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  • Dock01
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    i mean 50% less team, 100% recycled assets ... and asking for 98$ ... i don't think so
  • Kendaric
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    I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
    I highly doubt I'll be interested unless they return to either the chapter model or every bit of content for 2026 can be bought separately. I absolutely refuse the season pass model, I never buy seaon passes in any games I play.
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    • Last'One
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      Of course! What kind of question is that? If ESO keeps going this way, of course I’ll keep paying and giving them my money. Why else would I play this game? Nothing makes sense in ESO right now, the game’s a complete disgrace. So yeah, I’ll keep giving them my money, because disappointment is the only thing they never fail to deliver.
    • Mesite
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      I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
      I didn't buy anything this year. On Xbox you have to buy game pass to play and that just went up. I haven't played enough to finish last year's yet. And I need to catch up with subclassing etc. not enough time to catch up with new content too.

      I liked that I could sort of take part in the writhing wall event without buying it.
      Edited by Mesite on October 29, 2025 6:22PM
    • Mesite
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      I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
      I was thinking of having a while off game pass so I'll be playing on PC and I don't have as many DLCs on there, so I could buy next year's DLC if I get caught up and next year's content gets good reviews
    • SilverBride
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      I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
      I wish this choice said "I MAY order after launch when I can see what I'm buying." Because if I don't like what I see I won't buy.
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    • meekmiko
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      Radiate77 wrote: »
      Gabriel_H wrote: »
      Radiate77 wrote: »
      Yeah I’m actually sick right now.

      New World had a triumphant comeback and had over 50,000 concurrent players on Steam alone, and even that wasn’t enough to save the studio from Amazon.

      Makes me wonder how much time is left with ESO considering Microsoft is just as bad if not worse than Amazon.

      50,000 for one month - when new content dropped. Then they went away again.

      ESO has consistent numbers meaning predictable revenue, NW did not.

      See this is the 2nd time you’ve said that and you have no idea how great Nighthaven actually was, this was the launch pad for an entirely new generation of New World players, and that mid-patch number would still settle much higher than ESO as a result.

      But if we want to talk about numbers sure it’s been a few weeks, how do you think we’re doing?…

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      Didn't Amazon just announce no more new content for New World? The player count is about to plummet me thinks. :#
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    • Radiate77
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      I’m not ordering anything else - I’m done - what a mess!
      meekmiko wrote: »
      Radiate77 wrote: »
      Gabriel_H wrote: »
      Radiate77 wrote: »
      Yeah I’m actually sick right now.

      New World had a triumphant comeback and had over 50,000 concurrent players on Steam alone, and even that wasn’t enough to save the studio from Amazon.

      Makes me wonder how much time is left with ESO considering Microsoft is just as bad if not worse than Amazon.

      50,000 for one month - when new content dropped. Then they went away again.

      ESO has consistent numbers meaning predictable revenue, NW did not.

      See this is the 2nd time you’ve said that and you have no idea how great Nighthaven actually was, this was the launch pad for an entirely new generation of New World players, and that mid-patch number would still settle much higher than ESO as a result.

      But if we want to talk about numbers sure it’s been a few weeks, how do you think we’re doing?…

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      Didn't Amazon just announce no more new content for New World? The player count is about to plummet me thinks. :#

      Obviously, 😂 that’s the problem.

      They HAD released a launch pad in Nighthaven for an entirely new generation of players, and then decided they actually didn’t want us, or any players for that matter.

      What’s worse is that I’ve been trying to play ESO again after a two week break in Aeternum and this game just feels so bad in comparison.

      I went from role-queue in PvP with tons of matchmade options that are ALL enjoyable and queue in less than 3 minutes… even the 20v20… a F4A PvP Island similar to Imperial City but without the zergs and overland (optional) faction PvP… to a 4v4 and an 8v8 with random modes to even build for, and an entirely unbalanced experience everywhere you go. It’s terrible.
    • bmnoble
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      Don’t Know
      Really depends on whether I find the second half of Solstice was worth the wait.

      This drawn out event isn't doing ZOS any favours, the 2nd and 3rd phases better be something truly impressive, to make up for phase 1.
    • Syldras
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      bmnoble wrote: »
      This drawn out event isn't doing ZOS any favours, the 2nd and 3rd phases better be something truly impressive, to make up for phase 1.

      1 new world boss in phase 2. 1 new dungeon in phase 3.
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    • Hapexamendios
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      Don’t Know
      Undecided. I've hit a point where I'm bored with ESO content. Taking a bit of a break. If the new pass looks interesting, I'll consider it.
    • DoofusMax
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      I will probably pre-order but yet to decide
      Mixed feelings on this, so definitely not in the "will definitely preorder" group. I'll happily listen to the devs' pitch whenever they get around to making it. I'm reasonably good at sorting the hype from what will likely be the reality and will make a bang-for-buck judgement at that time. Odds are reasonably good that I'll preorder and I'm not cancelling my sub in the foreseeable future, but the jury isn't rendering a verdict until they hear the case presented.
      I'm fresh out of outrage, but I could muster up some amused annoyance if required.
    • rothan117
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      I will only order after launch when I can see what I’m buying
      This "season" was not worth the price, thin content, buggy mess, lousy event that is not fun at all. Not pre-ordering anything from ESO again after this experience.
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