Helms for the Headstrong not working

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I picked up the quest, the dialog says two helms, the quest says three. I make three helms, the quest doesn’t update, still 0/3 helms. I double checked the materials and they are correct. Abandoned the quest, picked it up again - still not working.
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  • virtus753
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    Is your character’s Blacksmithing rank less than 10/10?

    The quest version given at 10/10 requires only two helms, which may be why the quest dialogue says that. I’m wondering if there’s an issue with a lower tier version of the quest.

    Would it be possible for you to upload a screenshot of the helm you’re crafting and the quest text for comparison?

    This is what I'm seeing for the 10/10 version:

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  • LootAllTheStuff
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    I hate to be that guy, but: Are you crafting from the correct material? And FWIW I've only ever had to make 2 of head gear or shoulders; it was 3 staves though.
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Is your character’s Blacksmithing rank less than 10/10?

    Correct, I reset all my characters to level 6/10 crafting for the event to eat through the mats I will never use otherwise owing to them being in that weird spot between level 50 and whatever CP Rubedite starts at. In this case, Calcinium. (So before you or someone else brings it up: no, I will not boost them back up to 10/10 just for this one daily quest as that would defeat the purpose. The quest should work for all materials.)

    I’m not in game at the moment but I will make a note to post screenshots of the quest text.
    I hate to be that guy, but: Are you crafting from the correct material? And FWIW I've only ever had to make 2 of head gear or shoulders; it was 3 staves though.

    Yes, as I said in the OP I double-checked the materials.
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Is your character’s Blacksmithing rank less than 10/10?

    Correct, I reset all my characters to level 6/10 crafting for the event to eat through the mats I will never use otherwise owing to them being in that weird spot between level 50 and whatever CP Rubedite starts at. In this case, Calcinium. (So before you or someone else brings it up: no, I will not boost them back up to 10/10 just for this one daily quest as that would defeat the purpose. The quest should work for all materials.)

    I’m not in game at the moment but I will make a note to post screenshots of the quest text.
    I hate to be that guy, but: Are you crafting from the correct material? And FWIW I've only ever had to make 2 of head gear or shoulders; it was 3 staves though.

    Yes, as I said in the OP I double-checked the materials.

    Thanks for the reply. I agree you shouldn’t have to change your rank to get this to work. If they offer it at all ranks, the quest must work at all ranks and must have consistent, correct instructions. That said, I am not sure whether this can be hotfixed, so it may take some time to get this addressed.

    If you haven’t done so yet, I would also suggest filing a /bug report in game as well, as Gina has said in the past that that is preferred by the devs. It may help get this looked into and addressed faster. Including the info about the rank will help them identify the problematic version of the quest.

    I can try reproducing this to verify it and submit a bug report on my end too. Appreciate the info.
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    I've got a few that haven't levelled up their crafting skill lines yet, so I'll take a look later. Too bad I've already got all the crafting for the GP completed!

    ETA Here's what I got:

    3 normal oak bows
    2 normal iron helms
    3 normal oak staves
    2 normal hide arm caps
    2 normal linen epaulets

    Blacksmithing 29 (1/10)
    Clothing 48 (2/10)
    Woodworking 50 (2/10)
    Level 46

    Not sure what happens on a level 50 high CP character with underlevelled crafting skills, though.

    Edited by LootAllTheStuff on October 18, 2025 10:04PM
  • virtus753
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    So at 6/10 Blacksmithing, the quest I got requires 3 "helms", but Lazy Writ Crafter made 3 *daggers* to satisfy the quest.
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    Try that until this gets fixed?
    Edited by virtus753 on October 19, 2025 3:14AM
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    Oh wow, that definitely seems like an error in the code or a data table somewhere. Be interesting to see if the difference only crops up at 6/10, or whether it's at other levels too. I'll have to see where my other toons are at. Well, I also have a large collection of skill respec scrolls sitting in storage...

    Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever rolled "daggers" as a quest item?

    Edited by LootAllTheStuff on October 19, 2025 12:54PM
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    Oh wow, that definitely seems like an error in the code or a data table somewhere. Be interesting to see if the difference only crops up at 6/10, or whether it's at other levels too. I'll have to see where my other toons are at. Well, I also have a large collection of skill respec scrolls sitting in storage...

    Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I've ever rolled "daggers" as a quest item? Maybe it's the daggers quest that is simply mislabelled?

    ^ Accidental quote instead of edit. Gggrrrrrrrr........
    Edited by LootAllTheStuff on October 19, 2025 12:59PM
  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Pics as requested:

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    And the items that were crafted for it:
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    So at 6/10 Blacksmithing, the quest I got requires 3 "helms", but Lazy Writ Crafter made 3 *daggers* to satisfy the quest.
    b9cd96ndob2d.jpg

    Try that until this gets fixed?

    I will try it! And I'm almost out of Calcinium, so I can test 7/10 after that.

    EDIT: Just tried the Calcinium Daggers and it worked.
    Edited by WhiteCoatSyndrome on October 19, 2025 2:50PM
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    Pics as requested:

    n3kh6lwt0ep0.png
    adnf59ehniz8.png
    And the items that were crafted for it:
    4o14mn4ewrrs.png
    virtus753 wrote: »
    So at 6/10 Blacksmithing, the quest I got requires 3 "helms", but Lazy Writ Crafter made 3 *daggers* to satisfy the quest.
    b9cd96ndob2d.jpg

    Try that until this gets fixed?

    I will try it! And I'm almost out of Calcinium, so I can test 7/10 after that.

    EDIT: Just tried the Calcinium Daggers and it worked.

    Thanks, that’s exactly the dialogue I saw as well. And the turn-in dialogue said “Here are the two helms you requested” while you turn in the three daggers.

    I wonder if this flew under the radar or a fix was not prioritized due to how few people will be at these intermediate levels.
    Edited by virtus753 on October 19, 2025 3:02PM
  • DenverRalphy
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    Have you tried disabling LWC, and check to see what the quest markers inside the blacksmith station are pointing to? And/or set the blacksmith table to Quest Only, and see what it pulls up?
    Edited by DenverRalphy on October 19, 2025 5:41PM
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    I tried seeing if it was just the daggers version that was bugged, but none of the 6 I rolled today involved either daggers or the broken "3 Helms". I'll check again tomorrow (unless the six per day is per character rather than per account?)
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    I tried seeing if it was just the daggers version that was bugged, but none of the 6 I rolled today involved either daggers or the broken "3 Helms". I'll check again tomorrow (unless the six per day is per character rather than per account?)

    It's 6 per character.
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    I'm just going to throw this out there, although it may or may not be pertinent:

    Whenever I pick up the daily crafting writs but have other crafting quests active at the same time-- such as master writs, or in this case event-related crafting quests-- I always have to double-check which quest is selected in the upper left corner of the screen when I go to a crafting station, because whichever quest is listed first will be the one the crafting station automatically sets itself up to craft when the "active quests" filter is checked, hence the crafting station might not craft what I'm wanting it to craft if I'm just rapidly clicking through the motions.
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    virtus753 wrote: »
    Is your character’s Blacksmithing rank less than 10/10?

    Correct, I reset all my characters to level 6/10 crafting for the event to eat through the mats I will never use otherwise owing to them being in that weird spot between level 50 and whatever CP Rubedite starts at. In this case, Calcinium. (So before you or someone else brings it up: no, I will not boost them back up to 10/10 just for this one daily quest as that would defeat the purpose. The quest should work for all materials.)

    I’m not in game at the moment but I will make a note to post screenshots of the quest text.
    I hate to be that guy, but: Are you crafting from the correct material? And FWIW I've only ever had to make 2 of head gear or shoulders; it was 3 staves though.

    Yes, as I said in the OP I double-checked the materials.

    If you're doing it 6/10 just to chew through those unused resources you should use the armory assistant. Have one build 6/10, and another build 10/10. Pick the quest up from 6/10, switch to the other 10/10 build and do the quest and open the reward. That way when you open the coffer you get 10/10 level resources back instead of 6/10 resources rewards. If you're doing all 6 dailies switch back to the 6/10 before picking up the quest again.
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    I tried seeing if it was just the daggers version that was bugged, but none of the 6 I rolled today involved either daggers or the broken "3 Helms". I'll check again tomorrow (unless the six per day is per character rather than per account?)

    There is no version that actually asks for daggers. It’s the 6/10 version of the helms quest that asks for 2 and 3 helms (both at once) but requires daggers to fulfill.

    ETA: Make sure you set Blacksmithing to 6/10 (Calcinium) to get this version of the quest. It doesn’t impact the 10/10 (Rubedite) version.
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    I'm just going to throw this out there, although it may or may not be pertinent:

    Whenever I pick up the daily crafting writs but have other crafting quests active at the same time-- such as master writs, or in this case event-related crafting quests-- I always have to double-check which quest is selected in the upper left corner of the screen when I go to a crafting station, because whichever quest is listed first will be the one the crafting station automatically sets itself up to craft when the "active quests" filter is checked, hence the crafting station might not craft what I'm wanting it to craft if I'm just rapidly clicking through the motions.

    I picked up the 6/10 (Calcinium) version of the helms quest to check this. The quest does indeed conflict in terms of what it asks for (2 and 3 helms simultaneously — see OP’s screenshots above) and then won’t accept any helms but requires daggers (see my screenshot above). It is not an issue with mixing up quests. It is an issue with the 6/10 version of the helms quest.

    People using Lazy Writ Crafter/Creator will likely not even notice this, as it makes what the quests needs rather than what it says it needs. Those reading the quest and attempting to fulfill its conditions manually will understandably not know what they’re doing wrong — because it’s the quest that’s messed up in multiple ways.
    Edited by virtus753 on October 20, 2025 4:37PM
  • LarsS
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    I don´t use any crafting addon and never had a problem with the helmet. So its probably an addon issue.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Ran out of Calcinium and went up to 7/10 (Galatite). Galatite is not having the same problem; the quest giver mentions two helms, the quest specifies two helms, I crafted two helms and they were accepted.
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