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Please fix the Warden's Charm.

  • KiltMaster
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    I'm OK with charm, but I'd at least like to be able to counter it via block, roll dodge, or immovable pot. None of these work right now against charms.
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  • ibeprofun
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    charm absolutely needs a nerf.
  • Rogue_Coyote
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    Charm is absolutely cancer. Worse than RoA it completely ignores attempts at immunity. So all you need is a pull, stun, charm combo and basically kill anything in the area. Love being charmed into walls and rocks as well. How does an ability that causes your character to move around like a drunk fool also apply a no clip hack to walk through so-called "solid" objects?
    Nearly everyone is running this broken skill, along with streak and ball of lightning. It's lazy, boring pvp and not at all balanced or fun.
    Nerf and remove please. ASAP.
  • Thumbless_Bot
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    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimmick

    I am placing my bets on definition C for roa, DC and charm
  • Overamera
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    People must be playing some very slow builds to be complaining about charm. I just walk right out before it charms me..
  • The_Meathead
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    Charm being used as a part of an offensive combo is obnoxiously effective and could probably use a nerf.

    Charm being paired with Healing Soul and used every time someone gets in any real danger is the part that drives me nuts, though. Groups of 3 Wardens running around all dropping it constantly in small Cyrodiil spaces is the new meta, I swear.

    Please nuke Charm from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
  • Dalinar4
    Dalinar4
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    What would you all think of simply making it blockable? I'm probably wrong, but that seems like a really simple fix that would alleviate the worst of it.
  • ceruulean
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    Overamera wrote: »
    People must be playing some very slow builds to be complaining about charm. I just walk right out before it charms me..

    when there's 4 wardens in BG spamming charm, there's pretty much no where to go.
  • L_Nici
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    Overamera wrote: »
    People must be playing some very slow builds to be complaining about charm. I just walk right out before it charms me..

    Hmm, I play Stamsorc well what once was a Stamsorc, I am extremely fast but to avoid being charmed I have to Streak usually, because Dodgerolling is to slow and you get charmed in Dodgerole too, intended or not, then there is the latency of the server and even if you are really fast, your enemy can move too and his charm circle moves with him, so if he just runs in the same direction as you, being fast only helps you in a very limited way.
    Edited by L_Nici on October 12, 2025 11:36AM
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  • Major_Mangle
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    L_Nici wrote: »
    Overamera wrote: »
    People must be playing some very slow builds to be complaining about charm. I just walk right out before it charms me..

    Hmm, I play Stamsorc well what once was a Stamsorc, I am extremely fast but to avoid being charmed I have to Streak usually, because Dodgerolling is to slow and you get charmed in Dodgerole too, intended or not, then there is the latency of the server and even if you are really fast, your enemy can move too and his charm circle moves with him, so if he just runs in the same direction as you, being fast only helps you in a very limited way.

    Another thing few people know about is that even if you dodge roll inside the charm and get charmed, you´ll still avoid some follow up damage (assuming it´s not AoE that goes through dodge) since the dodge roll window still persist even while you´re stunned. A nice thing to know at least.
    Ps4 EU 2016-2020
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  • MISTFORMBZZZ
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    Everyone relies and builds arround charm. And it glitches you into walls. It should be nerfed asap
    PS EU
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    Just changing it to a stun rather than a charm would be fine, would fix the desync
    @Solar_Breeze
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  • JohnRingo
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    Charm is a minor inconvenience in my experience. There are MANY other pressing priorities that require attention in PvP ahead of charm.
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    JohnRingo wrote: »
    Charm is a minor inconvenience in my experience. There are MANY other pressing priorities that require attention in PvP ahead of charm.

    getting stuck inside terrain because you get charmed into it, minor inconvenience for sure.
    @Solar_Breeze
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    EU ~ Izanagi: Banana Squad (AOE Rats/ Zerg Squad / Roleplay Circle)
  • Oblivion_Protocol
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    JohnRingo wrote: »
    Charm is a minor inconvenience in my experience. There are MANY other pressing priorities that require attention in PvP ahead of charm.

    Getting charmed two or three times in a row is not what I would call a “minor inconvenience”.
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