Can't get enough Furs or vitrified souls

jerrodbuffington · October 14

Too many people are killing the bears and wolves in one hit. No one can get a hit on them because they die so fast. Ive spent 20 minutes and have 2 furs. This is not fun.

The circle on the map is not big. I tried killing some outside the circle, didnt get anything.

Same with vitrified souls. Stood and waited for 30 minutes for spawns.

jerrodbuffington · October 14

Just tried grahtwood and the circles there are way too small.. its smaller than the world boss fighting area.

tomofhyrule · October 14

You can totally kill things outside the circles. It's actually better to do so since way fewer people are around. Just look at the creature types and go get those.

Of course, it's still a random drop so it's not guaranteed, but it's better than standing around waiting for the 1 troll to get zerged by 15 arcanists who don't know other troll spawn points.

ESO_player123 · October 14

And it's not just bears and wolves either. I got the furs from Senche cats in a public dungeon.

frogthroat · October 14

You don't need to be inside the ring. Yesterday I had just picked up the two gathering quests, the soul one and golden sap. Guildies were asking for RND and we got nEH2. We got barely past the first boss, just on the bridge, when both of those quests were fulfilled.

I think the fastest to get the souls might still be just doing the camps. But for the other collecting quests, I got those done mostly passively.

jerrodbuffington · October 14

So why have the circles if you dont have to be in them?

ectoplasmicninja · October 14

jerrodbuffington wrote: »

So why have the circles if you dont have to be in them?

They're suggestions as to where to find the correct enemies that drop those materials, in case you're new and don't know where anything is. But you definitely don't need to be at those locations.

Vitrified souls are most quickly gained from defending the siege camps - one is usually enough for me to get the 15 souls required. DC undead can be sourced around Lion Guard Redoubt, the cemetery in Betnikh, pretty much anywhere in Covenant territory where there are zombies, skeletons, or even necromancers (eg. the necromancers in Cath Bedraud also drop undead essence, not just the skeletons). Golden sap will drop not only from spriggans and lurchers but also nereids and imps. For Pact fats I've had the best luck killing guar (sorry guar!).

Shawn_PT · October 14

jerrodbuffington wrote: »

So why have the circles if you dont have to be in them?

Because having a quest objective but not having an obvious arrow pointing people to where the objective is would make people whine about not knowing what to do. I've noticed from guildies yesterday, people don't bother reading at all. Like, at all. Someone was complaining they had some quest about furs but they had been killing enemies in I think was Rivenspire or something and nothing dropped. Furs. The one quest that tells you specifically it has to be in Dominion territories.

With players in ESO if you don't place an arrow on the objective, they might be pickpocketing Leatherworker NPCs trying to find the furs. They can't put a circle over the entire map, so they just place one where you're likely to find a high concentration of the enemies that drop them.

Undead essences in DC? Sure there are circles. Me? I just entered Crypt of Hearts. Undead enemies? Check. Covenant map? Check. Quest items gathered even before the very first group of enemies were dead. All alone. Zero competition. People just have to think a little bit about the objectives instead of blindingly following an arrow.

Edit: I don't know if they tweaked it but I seem to be collecting the soul bits faster today. Maybe it's just RNG being nice today for a change.

SeaGtGruff · October 14

I think the circles on the maps are for locations which have high concentrations of the target creature types, but they aren't the only places where those creatures can be found.

We see the same thing in Cyrodiil for the Fighters Guild bounty quests, where certain suggested locations are shown on the map for goblins, Black Daggers, Gray Vipers, and Shadowed Path enemies, but there are actually many additional locations where those enemies can be found.

valenwood_vegan · October 14

My two accounts so far are having completely different experiences collecting vitrified souls.

On one account, every daedra drops souls and the quest can be completed in a couple minutes.

On my other account, the drop rate is around 1/15 to 1/20 and the quest takes an hour.

This sort of rng-reliant drop with no failsafe, coupled with the game's poor rng system, is a horrible design for a repeatable event quest. For every player saying it's so easy, there is most likely going to be a player who's so frustrated they stop engaging with the event. For those players who have the wrong rng "seed" or whatever is actually going on behind the scenes, it's not an issue of farming the quest things in the wrong location, it's an issue of an extremely low drop rate.

(And keep in mind, we're not even talking about the drop rate of the actual rewards here, just the scraps you need to complete the quest to get the rng box that might have the reward lol).

This has come up before. See e.g., https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/643919/impossible-event-daily-turn-the-page/p1

Ezhh · October 14

Just spent about an hour in areas marked for the quest and I am perma stuck on 1/15 souls. I don't know how I got that one either. But every so often I kill something, regardless of whether it's in an area marked for the quest and get an on screen 1/15 souls announcement in the middle of my screen. It doesn't ever advance beyond 1 though. I also tried siege camps since I see someone mentioned getting them there but I also get none from doing that.

The furs/sap/whatever else quests are slow but doable.

allochthons · October 14

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

jaws343 · October 14

Y'all know you can just hop into Coldharbour and kill pretty much most of the enemies there for Souls right? Or any of the deadra infested public dungeons. Goes really fast.

Ezhh · October 14

allochthons wrote: »

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

I really don't think that's all that's going on here. I'm running on my main with high dps and have never had any issue getting drops in any event based on damage. And even then, if this is all it was, I should be able to drop at least one soul every so often on regular enemies that qualify and that are 100% killed by me alone.... but no. Nothing. To compare, I had zero issue doing the quest yesterday - it took about 5 minutes. Now I just can't get any souls. It's also weird that I do get a semi relgular notification that I'm at 1/15 yet it never goes up.

SeaGtGruff · October 14

jaws343 wrote: »

Y'all know you can just hop into Coldharbour and kill pretty much most of the enemies there for Souls right? Or any of the deadra infested public dungeons. Goes really fast.

Yes, I've been collecting them in the modified delves and public dungeons because I wanted to see what those are like. So for the six vitrified souls quests on PCEU I did the delves and public dungeons in Alik'r, Auridon, and Bangkorai. Then on PCNA I did the delves and public dungeons in Deshaan, Eastmarch, and Glenumbra. (I'm going down the zones in alphabetical order.) The delves and public dungeons took me longer on PCEU because I went through them from beginning to end to see which parts had been modified, but they went quicker on PCNA because I'd seen how the modified areas tended to be near the start of the delve or public dungeon and, in the case of the delves, near the location of the delve boss. So it's usually very quick to get vitrified souls in the modified delves and public dungeons, unless you want to take extra time to look for the locations of the event bosses.

allochthons · October 14

Ezhh wrote: »

allochthons wrote: »

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

I really don't think that's all that's going on here. I'm running on my main with high dps and have never had any issue getting drops in any event based on damage.

Emphasis by me. Is that what you meant to type? Because it supports my argument.

I'm not saying the "Only Top DPS get drops rule" is the only reason the souls are hard to get. Not at all. I think the RNG is messed up. But I think it's a factor, and proportionally hurts people who aren't high DPS more.

Shawn_PT · October 14

allochthons wrote: »

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

It does. I have done a few of these camps. On tank. On healer. On DD. It's so crowded I'm sitting there waiting for the boss and the model only loads when it's at about 80% health. I can tell something is up because some damage numbers pop up. Never ever have I seen a single drop from anything. No side mobs, no boss, nothing. At all. The only loot I've gathered from these camps was in the chest.

Don't look for soul fragments in the marked areas. Check the maps. Wherever there's a quest hub where the enemy is the worm cult, you'll find mobs that drop them. Doesn't need to be in Coldharbour. People flock to the circles but you absolutely do not need to get the things from them.

"You have saved (Quest Hub) from the depraved plans of the Worm Cult." There's your worm Cult. Go kill them there. You'll have practically zero competition so just farm away. Bonus points if it's a quest area and the enemies respawn faster. Take a note. Return there when the quest asks for these again.

Same for furs, fats, etc. If the quest blurb has conditions, that's all you need. An area/province, and a type of enemy. You can get furs from the skeevers inside the circle, or you can get them from a group dungeon (there's senches at the start of CoA2 for example), or a delve, or a quest instance. Or any other place so long as it's in the Dominion maps.

shadyjane62 · October 14

allochthons wrote: »

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

I did not know that. Thank You for showing me I ain't missing much.

allochthons · October 14

shadyjane62 wrote: »

I did not know that. Thank You for showing me I ain't missing much.

You can still loot the final chest. That is available to everyone. Just like on dolmens or summerset geysers. Boss/add drops are the top DPS, but everyone gets the chest.

This becomes important when they make quest or event drops come from the boss instead of the chest. Which they've done a few times.

soelslaev · October 14

I can confirm that I am a big impatient baby who cannot read for the first 60 minutes of new gameplay before I calm down. I’m guessing the folks who first read text and patiently listen to quest monologue didn’t snap awake at 4 AM Xmas morning and tear open every present in 5 minutes.

AvalonRanger · October 14

The event quest repeatable amount is almost crazy rather than just quest item drop rate.
There're zero reason to do such a stupid chore so many times each of day. One time is good enough.

AvalonRanger · October 14

jerrodbuffington wrote: »

Too many people are killing the bears and wolves in one hit. No one can get a hit on them because they die so fast. Ive spent 20 minutes and have 2 furs. This is not fun.

The circle on the map is not big. I tried killing some outside the circle, didnt get anything.

Same with vitrified souls. Stood and waited for 30 minutes for spawns.

This problem happened in 2014 at the mini delve dungeon boss, then ZOS still keep doing same mistake in 2025.

Tyralbin · October 14

jerrodbuffington wrote: »

Too many people are killing the bears and wolves in one hit. No one can get a hit on them because they die so fast. Ive spent 20 minutes and have 2 furs. This is not fun.

The circle on the map is not big. I tried killing some outside the circle, didnt get anything.

Same with vitrified souls. Stood and waited for 30 minutes for spawns.

You need to explore.

I found a place where it only takes 5 minutes to get the Vitrified Souls and it's nowhere near anywhere marked on the map.

It's in ............

Nope not giving it away.

But one piece of advice some areas have a greater drop rate. I would suggest looking at the public dungeons and delves that are marked blue on your map.

Leighlaa · October 14

For vitrified souls, I would recommend 2 things that work very well for me:
1. BE IN A GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2-3 people has been ideal for me. Their loot counts for you.
2. Go to the Coldharbour PD. There are lots of things that count- both on the paths and through the various doors and portals.

I found that hunting for these on solstice was super sucky, but Village of the Lost worked well. DEFINITELY BE IN A GROUP THOUGH.

jaws343 · October 14

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Y'all know you can just hop into Coldharbour and kill pretty much most of the enemies there for Souls right? Or any of the deadra infested public dungeons. Goes really fast.

Yes, I've been collecting them in the modified delves and public dungeons because I wanted to see what those are like. So for the six vitrified souls quests on PCEU I did the delves and public dungeons in Alik'r, Auridon, and Bangkorai. Then on PCNA I did the delves and public dungeons in Deshaan, Eastmarch, and Glenumbra. (I'm going down the zones in alphabetical order.) The delves and public dungeons took me longer on PCEU because I went through them from beginning to end to see which parts had been modified, but they went quicker on PCNA because I'd seen how the modified areas tended to be near the start of the delve or public dungeon and, in the case of the delves, near the location of the delve boss. So it's usually very quick to get vitrified souls in the modified delves and public dungeons, unless you want to take extra time to look for the locations of the event bosses.

I noticed in the Deshaan public dungeon that the invasion mobs were respawning almost exactly timed with a loop of killing them in the first few corridors. I farmed the golden pursuit in almost an uninterrupted 10 loops with non stop enemies.

SeaGtGruff · October 14

jaws343 wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Y'all know you can just hop into Coldharbour and kill pretty much most of the enemies there for Souls right? Or any of the deadra infested public dungeons. Goes really fast.

Yes, I've been collecting them in the modified delves and public dungeons because I wanted to see what those are like. So for the six vitrified souls quests on PCEU I did the delves and public dungeons in Alik'r, Auridon, and Bangkorai. Then on PCNA I did the delves and public dungeons in Deshaan, Eastmarch, and Glenumbra. (I'm going down the zones in alphabetical order.) The delves and public dungeons took me longer on PCEU because I went through them from beginning to end to see which parts had been modified, but they went quicker on PCNA because I'd seen how the modified areas tended to be near the start of the delve or public dungeon and, in the case of the delves, near the location of the delve boss. So it's usually very quick to get vitrified souls in the modified delves and public dungeons, unless you want to take extra time to look for the locations of the event bosses.

I noticed in the Deshaan public dungeon that the invasion mobs were respawning almost exactly timed with a loop of killing them in the first few corridors. I farmed the golden pursuit in almost an uninterrupted 10 loops with non stop enemies.

Do you mean the apex reward? I just got it today, without even trying. The weekly endeavor also completed itself yesterday without me even knowing what the three available activities were. This has been a pretty easy-peasy event for me so far.

Tyralbin · October 14

AvalonRanger wrote: »

The event quest repeatable amount is almost crazy rather than just quest item drop rate.
There're zero reason to do such a stupid chore so many times each of day. One time is good enough.

I think these will drop to 1 per day once the wall is down.

I assume the reason they are more than one per day is to get the writhing wall percentages moving quicker.

freespirit · October 14

Day two of the event and I now have my own areas for all of the items including the souls.

Non of them are in the marked places and so far I've not seen anyone else whilst collecting, did have to think about it a bit though.

I am currently doing this across several accounts but only one has the Season Pass.

I found defending the seige camps really annoying yesterday so today my main just collected the Gold Box!

Morgaledh · October 15

Shawn_PT wrote: »

People just have to think a little bit about the objectives instead of blindingly following an arrow.

Are you mad? Do you realize what you're asking? Of whom you're asking it? Have you seen the forums? Read? Think? Come on man, that's cruel.

Ezhh · October 15

allochthons wrote: »

Ezhh wrote: »

allochthons wrote: »

The problem with the siege camps is the "top 12 DPS get the drops" rule applies on the adds for souls, I think. I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter.

The Only Top DPS get drops rule is awful, and needs to change.

I really don't think that's all that's going on here. I'm running on my main with high dps and have never had any issue getting drops in any event based on damage.

Emphasis by me. Is that what you meant to type? Because it supports my argument.

I'm not saying the "Only Top DPS get drops rule" is the only reason the souls are hard to get. Not at all. I think the RNG is messed up. But I think it's a factor, and proportionally hurts people who aren't high DPS more.

Could you explain what you mean? You said " I can get the souls easily in a camp or two on my high DPS toon, but it took ages on a low crafter." I replied that I was on a high dps character, not a crafter. Yet unlike you I could not get souls at all. I'm not sure how this supports what you originally said?

I also haven't said it's not a factor, simply that I don't believe it's all that's going on.

SwordOfSagas · October 15

For the souls I believe the best spot is coldharbour right at the top of the map at the endless stair wayshrine. You can only get to the spot if you've completed the main story so it's not too crowded on Xbox NA that is. As for furs in grahtwood around the left side of map towards the bottom is a world boss. Its two tigers when I killed them they gave me all the 8 furs.