Do I finally have an Optimal Crit Kitty?

ArchMikem · October 7

Balorgh's, Order's Wrath, and Back Alley Gourmand on a Nightblade/Sorc. 60%+ chance with very nearly capped Critical Damage modifier, and of course Exploiter for that extra dmg to Off Balance sprinkled on top. I don't know if I can do any better than this.

kotisovich · October 7

Depends on how you want to play. Monomyth gives 20% crit dmg if you dont have other minor force source

Renato90085 · October 7

in solo,it good
in group ,it bad

Avran_Sylt · October 7

Depends on how much crit chance/damage you want:

Perfected Mora Scribes Thesis + Oakensoul will give you +12% Crit Damage and slightly less crit chance when using a Tri-pot for Major Resource recoveries (and assuming Gallop is still considered a Major buff) at 2,036 Crit rating vs. 2,203, which can be pushed further with other Major buffs.

Back Alley gourmand could be replaced with Shattered Fates effective 11.5% base damage increase from 7641 Offensive Penetration. This base damage increase is then multiplied by your crit damage.

Using a Bow would give you 1314 Crit rating, increased to 2628 against targets further than 15m from you.

As others have said, Monomyth is also a good choice given while you may be near crit damage cap, players have natural crit resistance, and impenetrable exists to provide more.

Avran_Sylt · October 8

Actually, faffing about with Mora Scribes Thesis it seems the calculation for Major crit chance is bugged or something. I'm able to hit the critical chance cap just using Oakensoul and a Tri-pot.

Meaning just the normal version of Mora Scribes gives around 0.3% crit chance less than Order, but adds +4% crit damage (an upgrade for my oakensoul build at least, swapping out Order). The perfected variant should add an additional 3% Critical chance, overall gaining 2.7% crit chance and 4% crit damage over Order's Wrath if able to hit the needed number of buffs.

Zodiarkslayer · October 8

<<<I am assuming you play SOLO and small group content>>>

It really depends on your abilities.

I think you can do better. Your problem, in my opinion, is the low penetration. The importance of fully penetrating a Boss's Armor cannot be understated.
I always aim for 9200-9300, so that with casting Maj+Min Breach I will have debuffed a Boss armor. There is usually not a big trade-off for getting there.

LootAllTheStuff · October 8

@Zodiarkslayer - what are you running to hit that level of penetration?

Avran_Sylt · October 8

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

@Zodiarkslayer - what are you running to hit that level of penetration?

Things that come to mind are Maces/Warhammers (1487/2974, respective to size), Sharpened Weapon Trait adds 1638/3276, Light armor Concentration gives 939 per piece of Light Armor, the Lover Mundus (4489 with all Gold Divines), sets (EG: Shattered Fate with 7641), Champion points under the Mages Piercing node grant up to 700 Penetration.

Zodiarkslayer · October 8

LootAllTheStuff wrote: »

@Zodiarkslayer - what are you running to hit that level of penetration?

I looked it up on my Crit Kitty. I use Lover mundus, off hand sharpened trait, one piece light armour passive and the CP. Together with a pen line from Tzogvin's Warband, that gives me 9118 pen.
I didn't want to give my two swords up. My goal was to have as much WD as possible, because in a group I can just swap to Thief or Warrior mundus and don't need to change much else.

LootAllTheStuff · October 8

Thanks @Avran_Sylt and @Zodiarkslayer - I knew there were DW passives that I should take into account, but I hadn't looked at them in a while. I like dual swords, but I might craft up a 1H mace as a situational swap item. I also have to double-check which traits I have on which item. I currently have DW on 3 of my 8 characters, so you'd think I'd have it all memorized by now...

Renato90085 · October 9

Zodiarkslayer wrote: »

<<<I am assuming you play SOLO and small group content>>>

It really depends on your abilities.

I think you can do better. Your problem, in my opinion, is the low penetration. The importance of fully penetrating a Boss's Armor cannot be understated.
I always aim for 9200-9300, so that with casting Maj+Min Breach I will have debuffed a Boss armor. There is usually not a big trade-off for getting there.

Balorgh + NB spam(3k) and marking(6k) can easy full 18k pen,but we need know skill build

Zodiarkslayer · October 12

Renato90085 wrote: »

Balorgh + NB spam(3k) and marking(6k) can easy full 18k pen,but we need know skill build

Absolutely. But this is more of a burst window setup than a sustained 100% uptime setup. Burst for PvP.
Sustained for SOLO.
That is why I asked. It makes a big difference.