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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/684716

How Do I Abandon The Subclassing Quest "A Study In Discipline"?

  • Panthermic
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    It appears that one unfortunately cannot abandon this quest and it's going to stay this way. Just follow the workaround I suppose.

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    The first day, when the bug was acknowledged.
    Shareholders: What the actual hell is happening in the game?

    The day when the bug became a feature. (Just like it happened with anicancel.)
    ZOS: Multiclassing was a success; look at how many completed the necessary quest!

    I guess this is how things got changed.
  • redlink1979
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    You will only have issues if your account has all the the class lines maxed.
    In that case, in console, it's impossible to finish the quest.

    Are the devs aware of this @ZOS_Kevin ?
    Edited by redlink1979 on October 4, 2025 10:04AM
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  • shadyjane62
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    Happened to me. Only thing to do is play through and respec all 547 skill points.

    My time is not ESO's to waste. This should be fixed.
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.
  • DenverRalphy
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.
    Edited by DenverRalphy on October 6, 2025 2:23AM
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.

    That's a little worrying. The one character I have that I'd definitely like to use sub-classing on (Arc) is still relatively low level, but the skill line I'd swap in (from NB) is already at 50. I have a few characters that aren't fully maxed, but they're all getting pretty close so if I don't do the sub-classing quest soon I might not have any under-levelled skill lines left available. I do have two spare character slots, though: if I make a second NB can I use the skill line from that character instead of my maxed-out main to complete this quest?
  • DenverRalphy
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.

    That's a little worrying. The one character I have that I'd definitely like to use sub-classing on (Arc) is still relatively low level, but the skill line I'd swap in (from NB) is already at 50. I have a few characters that aren't fully maxed, but they're all getting pretty close so if I don't do the sub-classing quest soon I might not have any under-levelled skill lines left available. I do have two spare character slots, though: if I make a second NB can I use the skill line from that character instead of my maxed-out main to complete this quest?

    If you haven't subclassed any characters yet, then you don't have any subclass skills leveled at all yet. Your NB skills being at 50 means that your NB skill lines are available to be subclassed. When your first non-NB character sublasses into those skill lines, they still need to level those skill lines to 50 all over again as a subclass. Once it's been level to 50 as a subclass then it's available to any character without having to level it up again. But if you created another NB character, that character can't subclass into one of its own base skill lines and will instead have to level it up the old fashioned way.

    [edit] Crossed out erroneous statement on my part.
    Edited by DenverRalphy on October 6, 2025 8:53PM
  • ESO_player123
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.

    That's a little worrying. The one character I have that I'd definitely like to use sub-classing on (Arc) is still relatively low level, but the skill line I'd swap in (from NB) is already at 50. I have a few characters that aren't fully maxed, but they're all getting pretty close so if I don't do the sub-classing quest soon I might not have any under-levelled skill lines left available. I do have two spare character slots, though: if I make a second NB can I use the skill line from that character instead of my maxed-out main to complete this quest?

    If you haven't subclassed any characters yet, then you don't have any subclass skills leveled at all yet. Your NB skills being at 50 means that your NB skill lines are available to be subclassed. When your first non-NB character sublasses into those skill lines, they still need to level those skill lines to 50 all over again as a subclass. Once it's been level to 50 as a subclass then it's available to any character without having to level it up again. But if you created another NB character, that character can't subclass into one of its own base skill lines and will instead have to level it up the old fashioned way.

    @DenverRalphy Could you please clarify the bolded part? At one point I thought that I need to level a skill line to 50 to be able to subclass it on another character. I had toons of all classes fully leveled on PCNA before the release of subclassing, so it did not really matter to me.

    However, I created my first toon on PCEU (a sorc) not long ago, levelled it to 50 and went to Dune to see what's what with subclassing. I was able to swap Dark Magic to Aedric Spear even though I do not have a Templar on PCEU, and since then leveled it to 50.
  • DenverRalphy
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.

    That's a little worrying. The one character I have that I'd definitely like to use sub-classing on (Arc) is still relatively low level, but the skill line I'd swap in (from NB) is already at 50. I have a few characters that aren't fully maxed, but they're all getting pretty close so if I don't do the sub-classing quest soon I might not have any under-levelled skill lines left available. I do have two spare character slots, though: if I make a second NB can I use the skill line from that character instead of my maxed-out main to complete this quest?

    If you haven't subclassed any characters yet, then you don't have any subclass skills leveled at all yet. Your NB skills being at 50 means that your NB skill lines are available to be subclassed. When your first non-NB character sublasses into those skill lines, they still need to level those skill lines to 50 all over again as a subclass. Once it's been level to 50 as a subclass then it's available to any character without having to level it up again. But if you created another NB character, that character can't subclass into one of its own base skill lines and will instead have to level it up the old fashioned way.

    @DenverRalphy Could you please clarify the bolded part? At one point I thought that I need to level a skill line to 50 to be able to subclass it on another character. I had toons of all classes fully leveled on PCNA before the release of subclassing, so it did not really matter to me.

    However, I created my first toon on PCEU (a sorc) not long ago, levelled it to 50 and went to Dune to see what's what with subclassing. I was able to swap Dark Magic to Aedric Spear even though I do not have a Templar on PCEU, and since then leveled it to 50.

    I was under the impression that one of your characters had to have first leveled a skill line to 50 before another character can subclass into it. When subclassing came about I had already levelled them all to 50 on various toons, so that original assumption stuck. If that's not the case.. oopsie. :)
  • ESO_player123
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    Question from someone who hasn't taken the quest yet: Do you need to complete the quest on all characters you want to subclass, or is it just once per account? Because if it's the former, that seems like a real problem given this bug.

    You have to start the quest to enable subclassing on any character that you want to subclass. Unfortunately, the problem is that the quest can get stuck at the "subclass a skill line" step. Even after successfully subclassing another skill line, the quest doesn't complete, and you can't abandon it. You can still continue to swap/equip new/old skill lines all you wish. You just can't complete the quest.

    Apparently there's a way to avoid the bug and complete the quest if you're not using the gamepad UI. But for those of us on console, we don't have that luxury. So we're left "sittin in the cold" so to speak.

    That's a little worrying. The one character I have that I'd definitely like to use sub-classing on (Arc) is still relatively low level, but the skill line I'd swap in (from NB) is already at 50. I have a few characters that aren't fully maxed, but they're all getting pretty close so if I don't do the sub-classing quest soon I might not have any under-levelled skill lines left available. I do have two spare character slots, though: if I make a second NB can I use the skill line from that character instead of my maxed-out main to complete this quest?

    If you haven't subclassed any characters yet, then you don't have any subclass skills leveled at all yet. Your NB skills being at 50 means that your NB skill lines are available to be subclassed. When your first non-NB character sublasses into those skill lines, they still need to level those skill lines to 50 all over again as a subclass. Once it's been level to 50 as a subclass then it's available to any character without having to level it up again. But if you created another NB character, that character can't subclass into one of its own base skill lines and will instead have to level it up the old fashioned way.

    @DenverRalphy Could you please clarify the bolded part? At one point I thought that I need to level a skill line to 50 to be able to subclass it on another character. I had toons of all classes fully leveled on PCNA before the release of subclassing, so it did not really matter to me.

    However, I created my first toon on PCEU (a sorc) not long ago, levelled it to 50 and went to Dune to see what's what with subclassing. I was able to swap Dark Magic to Aedric Spear even though I do not have a Templar on PCEU, and since then leveled it to 50.

    I was under the impression that one of your characters had to have first leveled a skill line to 50 before another character can subclass into it. When subclassing came about I had already levelled them all to 50 on various toons, so that original assumption stuck. If that's not the case.. oopsie. :)

    It was my impression as well, so I was pleasantly surprised that I do not need alts on PCEU just for the sake of subclassing.
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    Thanks for the clarifications, folks! I still find it odd that you have to repeat the sub-classing quest on every character: not even an "Actually I already know about it" option in the dialogue tree if you've unlocked it on a different character? I'd expect that in a 30-year old game (maybe) but in 2025?
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