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Official Discussion Thread for "Cyrodiil Cries Out Again for PvP Vengeance!"
ZOS_Kevin
Community Manager
This is the official discussion thread for, "Cyrodiil Cries Out Again for PvP Vengeance!"
"Return to the Vengeance PvP campaign to help test newly performant additions, including tweaks to siege weaponry, armor skill lines, and guild skill lines."
Community Manager for ZeniMax Online Studio and Elder Scrolls OnlineDev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter
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LPapirius✭✭✭✭✭
✭My guild has cancelled daily PvP raid group until the 30th. We'll be back next Tuesday when PvP returns.7 -
Asdara✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why would you put a pvp event without golden pursuit during the biggest pve event of the year.
I'm not touching that thing“The Second Era? Oh, you mean the BEAM Era. Because apparently every problem could be solved with a giant glowing light shooting at everything.”4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Why would you put a pvp event without golden pursuit during the biggest pve event of the year.
I'm not touching that thing
Honestly I'm glad they did, it'll be great to see how the population looks during this test without the bait-incentives of pursuits and endeavors bringing in the casual community.@ReactSlower - PC/NA - 2000+ CP
React Faster - XB/NA - 1500+ CP
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Moonspawn✭✭✭✭
Three-teams BGs rewards: Daily XP.
Two-teams BGs rewards: Daily XP, endeavors, golden pursuits, battlemaster tokens and obscene amounts of transmutation crystals.
Can you imagine the size of the BG population if players had been given the choice to stay in 4v4v4 and receive the same bait-incentives?Edited by Moonspawn on September 23, 2025 9:09AMCan you help solve any of the FOUR critical flaws of Two-sided BGs ?
Looking for feedback on How to fix the 3-sided objective modes2 -
Aylish✭✭✭✭✭I was happy to participate in the first and second tests when the premise was that it was just a matter of finding out where the performance problems in Cyrodiil were coming from.
At the time, many of us were quite panicked that you wanted to restructure Cyrodiil. Your response was, “Hey, chill. It's just a stress test. We want to know where the performance issues are coming from.”
In the first test, there were almost no performance issues. In the second test, there was much lag, and one might think, “We've found a performance factor. We can use that to get closer to the actual problem.” But still, you continue with the next one and the next one...
By now (and at the latest after the U48 preview stream), it has become more than clear that you ultimately want to rebuild Cyrodiil in Vengeance. And I absolutely do not support that anymore. You have clearly deceived us in this regard.
Vengeance isn't something that gives me more than an hour of enjoyment. I liked Cyrodiil the way it was. My character felt the same way she did outside, and that was great. In Vengeance, she feels wrong to me.
If Vengeance is gonna be the new Cyrodiil, I'm out.8 -
Seyer530✭✭✭Hell no, this playstyle SUCKS! I thought ESO was great because it allows you to totally customize your build and playstyle. What a joke. Please end this ridiculous test NOW so we can all come back to the game we love(d).1
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diamondo✭✭✭I am concerned that there won’t be any real workable data to actually analyse here, subclassing has meant that there’s only ever been at most two bars in cyro for each faction at peak times.
Since vengeance started I’ve had look and there been 0 bars so I’m not sure how this tests out the issues as there are no players stressing the server0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Meatbags are too nerfed, they need the lingering ground AoE to function as area denial against zergs.
Healing in general is too much, the larger zerg stacks heals and can't die, smaller zerg can never catch up largely because their AoE damage cap is stuck at the same 3 targets as the AoE heal cap.PC/NA || Cyro/BGs || retired until Dagon brings a new dawn of PvP metas1 -
abakzn✭✭✭I am now logging on a lot less because I mainly play Campaigns which 100% excludes the deceipt by ESO dressing Vengeance up as a test, it is a total no-no.0
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Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’m in Cyrodiil most nights and I’m really rooting for pvp improvements. But I’m sick of doing vengeance tests.
I got in and the orange color of everything drug me down with the memory of having to rework the skill load outs of every character. Then I remembered that without. The scoreboard nobody cares about playing the map and just faction stacks. I’m just not feeling it this time.
It’s also bad timing to do this as the same time as the Undaunted event.
Just me?Edited by Reverb on September 24, 2025 1:33PMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am concerned that there won’t be any real workable data to actually analyse here, subclassing has meant that there’s only ever been at most two bars in cyro for each faction at peak times.
Since vengeance started I’ve had look and there been 0 bars so I’m not sure how this tests out the issues as there are no players stressing the server
Can’t really go off the population bars because the pop cap is higher in vengeance.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche2 -
diamondo✭✭✭But should there not be at least one bars worth for each faction even with population increase. I’m not in all day but general peak times eu server.0
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Iriidius✭✭✭✭✭Hell no, this playstyle SUCKS! I thought ESO was great because it allows you to totally customize your build and playstyle. What a joke. Please end this ridiculous test NOW so we can all come back to the game we love(d).
You can play Imperial City, Battlegrounds or Duells or improve your build and do next weeks duty’s so you have more time and success when you come back to Cyrodiil next week when Vengeance is over.
Vengeance players have to wait 12 weeks before they can play Vengeance again for 1 week that you also want to take away.PC EU2 -
Iriidius✭✭✭✭✭If player love GreyHost so much it should be more populated after Vengeance because players try to compensate the time they lost. Instead as soon as Greyhost is back they lost all interest to play there blaming it on Vengeance. They also don’t want Vengeance and Grey Host coexisting.
Could it be that haters want end Vengeance to end Vengeance rather than to have one more week of GreyHost? Vengeance haters would probably rather have no Cyrodiil at all than Vengeance for a week because Vengeance allows other players to have fun and success who dont have in GreyHost, shows the unbalance and an alternative.Edited by Iriidius on September 25, 2025 8:17PMPC EU1 -
Soriana✭✭✭✭✭Me and my friends freakin' LOVE vengeance and would love if they made it a separate campaign alongside the others. Would I make it my home campaign? If I could, I would.
Un-apologetically un-ashamed Vengeance nerd!!3 -
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✭✭My only real complaint so far is that my staff ulti has not gone off once and range is useless.PCNA
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✭Please do not schedule future Vengeance testing on top of another in game event. I spent a few hours in the Vengeance test campaign a few days ago and had fun. I would have spent some time most days of the Vengeance test, except that I was doing Undaunted stuff with other players. Scheduling failure, ZOS!3 -
ZOS_KevinCommunity ManagerPlease do not schedule future Vengeance testing on top of another in game event. I spent a few hours in the Vengeance test campaign a few days ago and had fun. I would have spent some time most days of the Vengeance test, except that I was doing Undaunted stuff with other players. Scheduling failure, ZOS!
We have informed the team about this. So they are taking it into account for future tests.Community Manager for ZeniMax Online Studio and Elder Scrolls OnlineDev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter1