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Forum PvP is broken, needs balance changes asap (give forum feedback here)

SkaiFaith
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Forum PvP is broken, needs balance changes asap

Damage Dealers are OP, their AoE damage is off the roof! Please nerf, at least the range since they can reach the other side of the room! Poor tanks can't keep up, also due to fake healers...

What changes would you suggest on the "PTS" for the Forum? Looks like it's bleeding users - I think I've seen a chart that proves this evidence but I don't want the forum to die, I have 6 stars!

What can be done to improve the Forum experience for everybody?
Suggestions welcome, both to players and devs.

- Please mods, get the humoristic spirit :smiley: ; no pony-guar has been harmed in the process... <3
A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
B: "Many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • Pevey
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    One change I think would be beneficial is for every ESO account to automatically have forum access (unless specifically banned). The additional hoops to jump through reduce participation.

    Perhaps more controversially, I would love to see a limit on the number of times a single poster can post to a single thread. Maybe twice, maybe five times, whatever. But some limit. This would help prevent posters from trying to just outshout each other. If you have something truly new to say you didn't say in your first posts on that thread, it should be new enough to start a new topic.
  • Stamicka
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    I’m never sure if what I say, even if constructive will get me banned. I think others feel that way too. It certainly doesn’t help participation when there’s heavy handed moderation.
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  • Elvenheart
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    Me personally, sometimes it feels like I’m not even playing the same game that people talk about on the forums. I hear all these horrible things being said about how awful this or that is in the game and then I go in the game and everything seems fine and people seem happy. Disclaimer, I’m only talking about me and my experience with the forums and with ESO. It is obvious other people have different experiences than I do.
  • ShutUpitsRed
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    Pop-up box that says, are you sure you're responding to what the post actually says, not what you inferred after skimming it?
  • Radiate77
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    Stamicka wrote: »
    I’m never sure if what I say, even if constructive will get me banned. I think others feel that way too. It certainly doesn’t help participation when there’s heavy handed moderation.

    Think of all of the great contributors to these threads that are no longer here.

    I wonder how many people that after feeling like their voice was silenced over someone’s fragility just up and left the game entirely.
  • aetherix8
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    Spamming the same exact argument even if it's not valid anymore is bad for the overall forum performance and should be dealt with. Stacking over time negativity should also be nerfed to the ground.
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  • spartaxoxo
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    It's funny that some of these are calling for more moderation and the other for less. Personally, I think moderation has gotten a lot better.

    Anyway, I think that one thing the forums need is more communication from staff outside of moderation. Give us updates, road map, let us know something has been relayed to the team more often, acknowledge that you've noted a bug, etc. Sometimes they could even join in on the harmless jokes.

  • Lumenn
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    I'm not sure if it can be fixed. While the moderation has (in my opinion) improved TREMENDOUSLY, these forums have a reputation for being moderated...heavily. From the reddit app that zos ironically recently made use of to even word of mouth. Many of us just don't engage anymore. A few years ago I wouldn't have posted this paragraph (and I'm halfway cringing doing so even now)
  • Radiate77
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    aetherix8 wrote: »
    Spamming the same exact argument even if it's not valid anymore is bad for the overall forum performance and should be dealt with. Stacking over time negativity should also be nerfed to the ground.

    I’d take that over a dead forum any day of the week, at least it gives you something to laugh about, and as far as negativity goes, I agree.

    Negativity has powercrept these past few years, it’s the only thing competing with Fatecarver at the moment.
  • duagloth
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    Ball groups= everything is fine on my end!!!
  • ghastley
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    "Agree" needs to be nerfed. People can just mash one button without adding their two cents, so it's ruining the economy, too!
  • kevkj
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    While several famous 1vXers seem to have stopped PvPing on the forums lately, the Greatest Of All Time is still spending all of her free time here and we should all be so grateful.

    A post limit whether per thread or time gated would discourage quick PvP action, so I'm not sure I can support that.
  • SkaiFaith
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    Pevey wrote: »
    Perhaps more controversially, I would love to see a limit on the number of times a single poster can post to a single thread. Maybe twice, maybe five times, whatever. But some limit. This would help prevent posters from trying to just outshout each other. If you have something truly new to say you didn't say in your first posts on that thread, it should be new enough to start a new topic.
    kevkj wrote: »
    A post limit whether per thread or time gated would discourage quick PvP action...

    I think a post limit per thread would make sense and it's not a bad idea, except for the Original Poster, since it seems fair that said person would want to be able to respond even to every commenter individually.

    Happy to see the responses to this thread :smile: some insightful infos...
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • Pevey
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    Other people have made good points about heavy-handed moderation, and I wouldn't want yet another rule to be a reason for accidental footguns that cause more people to be banned. I also doubt it would be feasible given their forum software is provided by a third-party and probably does not have the ability to add a post-limit-per-thread feature. I was just sharing a thought about one of the things that really seem to turn people off the official forums. I like the way one person put it: 1vXers.

    Perhaps if it were just an informal rule or standard, and if a poster is trying to single-handedly brigade a particular topic by stating their one opinion over and over to drown out others, they could be gently reminded by the mods that such behavior is discouraged.
  • BXR_Lonestar
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    The only change I see that needs to be made IMO is that crit damage is off the charts right now in PVP. While its a refreshing change to the meta, when the meta is so far out of balance vs. everything else, there needs to be something to bring it closer to everything else.

    I'm not advocating for a nerf, but we should definitely be raising the inpen cap back to 5k. Before the reordering of the champion point system, it used to be 5k, and then when everything was recalibrated, it was reduced to 3k. It should now be pumped back up to 5k IMO, and/or give us more sources for major/minor enervation and major/minor uncertainty.
  • SilverBride
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    I'd like to see much less severe consequences. Banning should only happen for the most grevious infractions and should be a rare occurrence. A warning and educational system would be more effective in my opinion.
    Edited by SilverBride on September 25, 2025 3:28PM
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  • Tandor
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Perhaps more controversially, I would love to see a limit on the number of times a single poster can post to a single thread. Maybe twice, maybe five times, whatever. But some limit. This would help prevent posters from trying to just outshout each other. If you have something truly new to say you didn't say in your first posts on that thread, it should be new enough to start a new topic.
    kevkj wrote: »
    A post limit whether per thread or time gated would discourage quick PvP action...

    I think a post limit per thread would make sense and it's not a bad idea, except for the Original Poster, since it seems fair that said person would want to be able to respond even to every commenter individually.

    Happy to see the responses to this thread :smile: some insightful infos...

    I take the opposite view so far as original posters' multiple comments are concerned. They often open a thread with a deliberatively provocative argument and then respond to every post that takes a different view, sometimes reporting those posts on spurious grounds after baiting the poster they're reporting, before finally asking the Mods to close the thread which they always do because it's at the original poster's request. So if anyone is restricted to the number of posts they can contribute to a single thread it should be the original poster - although I'm actually against restricting anyone unless they break the forum rules in which case there are adequate rules in place to cover that.

    I'd certainly favour the Mods being asked to be more cautious when considering requests from original posters to close their threads - there's no legitimate reason to do so where the only reason for the request is that the other posters disagree with the original poster. It's a discussion forum, exchanging different opinions is what it's all about.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Over censorship ruined the forums way back in 2016.
  • katanagirl1
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    Tandor wrote: »
    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    Pevey wrote: »
    Perhaps more controversially, I would love to see a limit on the number of times a single poster can post to a single thread. Maybe twice, maybe five times, whatever. But some limit. This would help prevent posters from trying to just outshout each other. If you have something truly new to say you didn't say in your first posts on that thread, it should be new enough to start a new topic.
    kevkj wrote: »
    A post limit whether per thread or time gated would discourage quick PvP action...

    I think a post limit per thread would make sense and it's not a bad idea, except for the Original Poster, since it seems fair that said person would want to be able to respond even to every commenter individually.

    Happy to see the responses to this thread :smile: some insightful infos...

    I take the opposite view so far as original posters' multiple comments are concerned. They often open a thread with a deliberatively provocative argument and then respond to every post that takes a different view, sometimes reporting those posts on spurious grounds after baiting the poster they're reporting, before finally asking the Mods to close the thread which they always do because it's at the original poster's request. So if anyone is restricted to the number of posts they can contribute to a single thread it should be the original poster - although I'm actually against restricting anyone unless they break the forum rules in which case there are adequate rules in place to cover that.

    I'd certainly favour the Mods being asked to be more cautious when considering requests from original posters to close their threads - there's no legitimate reason to do so where the only reason for the request is that the other posters disagree with the original poster. It's a discussion forum, exchanging different opinions is what it's all about.

    I agree with both of you, actually. It really should go on a case-by-case basis. There was one forum user who did start threads and then ask for them to close when they got responses they didn’t like and fairly soon after the responses started. It’s been quiet lately, though. It’s a hard call, we don’t want our privileges cut back for any reason and any action could harm us all. The solution is probably to ignore those people instead. I don’t think anything like that would be implemented in a way that would please many of us.
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  • MasterSpatula
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    The Forum PVP game desperately needs an independent review board to force accountability on gamemasters who abuse their authority and punish players unjustly.
    Edited by MasterSpatula on September 26, 2025 10:29PM
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  • SilverBride
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    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I think a post limit per thread would make sense and it's not a bad idea, except for the Original Poster, since it seems fair that said person would want to be able to respond even to every commenter individually.

    This would effectively close the Overland thread.
    Edited by SilverBride on September 27, 2025 12:11AM
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  • SkaiFaith
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    The Forum PVP game desperately needs an independent review board to force accountability on gamemasters who abuse their authority and punish players unjustly.

    I don't think anything can be saved from "corruption", especially when it involves a position of "power". It could get as bad if not even worse...
    SkaiFaith wrote: »
    I think a post limit per thread would make sense and it's not a bad idea, except for the Original Poster, since it seems fair that said person would want to be able to respond even to every commenter individually.

    This would effectively close the Overland thread.

    Someone suggested a time limit, so that no one could spam posts angrily - would be expected that over time, in long threads, someone clears up its mind and stop acting badly... Just a hope
    A: "We, as humans, should respect and take care of each other like in a Co-op, not a PvP 🌸"
    B: "Many words. Words bad. Won't read. ⚔️"
  • Weesacs
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    Stamicka wrote: »
    I’m never sure if what I say, even if constructive will get me banned. I think others feel that way too. It certainly doesn’t help participation when there’s heavy handed moderation.

    Agreed.

    I reported a player who insulted me in-game which ZoS deemed wasnt a violation of the code of conduct.

    Turned out, when i used the same insult on these forums i got a warning, which i found strange because i thought it didnt violate their code of conduct 🤔
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  • SilverBride
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    The Forum PVP game desperately needs an independent review board to force accountability on gamemasters who abuse their authority and punish players unjustly.

    For the opposite, too, so offenses don't slip by.
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  • Northwold
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    Pevey wrote: »
    One change I think would be beneficial is for every ESO account to automatically have forum access (unless specifically banned). The additional hoops to jump through reduce participation.

    Perhaps more controversially, I would love to see a limit on the number of times a single poster can post to a single thread. Maybe twice, maybe five times, whatever. But some limit. This would help prevent posters from trying to just outshout each other. If you have something truly new to say you didn't say in your first posts on that thread, it should be new enough to start a new topic.

    I agree that forum membership should be automatic.

    I very much don't agree with a post limit in every thread though. Discussion evolves. By limiting posts you will just end up with people baldly stating their position then walking away. I don't know why that would ever be a good thing. Conversation, discussion, is about talking, listening and responding.
    Edited by Northwold on September 28, 2025 12:50PM
  • Vonnegut2506
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    The only PvP on the forum is MvP (Moderators versus Players). The most innocuous thing can get you a 72 hour vacation. I get awfully tired of trying to have an opinion only to get teabagged by a suspension.
  • LootAllTheStuff
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    Forum PvP needs more emotes. The current selection is too limiting.

    :o
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