Why no Undaunted Ultimate?

NoSoup · September 18

Given we're about to start the undaunted event for this year, I feel it fitting to ask, why no undaunted ultimate? All weapons, both alliance trees, fighters guild, mages guild and even the psijic guild have an ultimate ability. Yet the poor old undaunted are left without. No other guild ties into "dungeons" as much as the undaunted, yet they're the most "unequipped". Give us an ultimate worthy of hur-rahing too.....

Shawn_PT · September 18

Inb4 we get "shouts", a skill line dedicated exclusively to ultimates, customizable in a similar way to scribing. Each word has a different effect, slap 3 together for the full ultimate.

Could very well be the next "grind of the year".

Nemesis7884 · September 18

A shout ultimate would be cool that calls 3 famous undaunted members that temporarily help you in combat for x seconds..

RandomKodiak · September 18

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

A shout ultimate would be cool that calls 3 famous undaunted members that temporarily help you in combat for x seconds..

Except for the fact that we are always rescuing them from or seeing them lying on the ground in dungeons so not sure how much help they would be

I agree though it is odd Undaunted never got one

tomofhyrule · September 18

I would be interested to see something here.

More interestingly, Undaunted is also the only basegame guild line that's missing a Grimoire as well.

SilverIce58 · September 18

I would like to see Undaunted get an Ult but I do NOT want it to be a Shout. You're not a Dragonborn, you're the Vestige. You want to shout, go play the only Elder Scrolls game to have it.

LootAllTheStuff · September 18

An Undaunted ultimate should perhaps be a berserker mode? (Deals more and takes less damage for n seconds)

Gabriel_H · September 18

Name: Undaunted Shout
Cost: 500 Ultimate
Target: Area
Range: 50m
Effect: When cast in combat, all combat ceases for 30 seconds every 3 minutes, as you and your group feel compelled to sing the Undaunted song draining your stamina and magicka for 200 per second. Banging your head against a wall will cause this effect to end.

Shawn_PT · September 18

SilverIce58 wrote: »

I would like to see Undaunted get an Ult but I do NOT want it to be a Shout. You're not a Dragonborn, you're the Vestige. You want to shout, go play the only Elder Scrolls game to have it.

Tbh you don't have to be Dragonborn to learn shouts. It just takes a lot, lot more time, AKA the perfect type of grind ESO likes to impose.

My burly, greatsword-wielding Nords aren't specially gifted mages either, and yet here they are, slotting Psijic spells. From a secretive guild that's supposed to only allow the most adept of mages in. Not even the naturally-gifted Altmer can just apply. It's that special.

I'm not advocating FOR it, mind you. I'm just stating ESO has tossed the Lore out of the window many, many years ago. What's one more absurd step?

tsaescishoeshiner · September 18

Warhorn or Barrier should be the Undaunted Ultimate because they're used more in PvE. They would be replaced in their original skill line with a more PvP-focused ult (like an anti-ball group ult?).

The issue is that all current Undaunted Skills have a synergy, so they might feel they need to add one to make it fit. But really, it's a fairly dungeon/trial–focused skill line, so the ult should match that, whether it has a synergy or not.

zaria · September 18

Shawn_PT wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

I would like to see Undaunted get an Ult but I do NOT want it to be a Shout. You're not a Dragonborn, you're the Vestige. You want to shout, go play the only Elder Scrolls game to have it.

Tbh you don't have to be Dragonborn to learn shouts. It just takes a lot, lot more time, AKA the perfect type of grind ESO likes to impose.

My burly, greatsword-wielding Nords aren't specially gifted mages either, and yet here they are, slotting Psijic spells. From a secretive guild that's supposed to only allow the most adept of mages in. Not even the naturally-gifted Altmer can just apply. It's that special.

I'm not advocating FOR it, mind you. I'm just stating ESO has tossed the Lore out of the window many, many years ago. What's one more absurd step?

Now in the TES games you used magic, at least for healing and utilities.
Magic was pretty weak as an weapon in Skyrim but it was still very useful, healing feather, detect life.

An berserker mode would be fitting, note that this should reduce your defence.

For the undaunted song, this should be an emote, preferable one with an long cooldown

Morvan · September 18

It would be interesting to have the first Ultimate Grimoire to be on the Undaunted line.

NoSoup · September 18

Morvan wrote: »

It would be interesting to have the first Ultimate Grimoire to be on the Undaunted line.

Banner Bearer was probably the perfect fit to be the undaunted ultimate, make it last 30 seconds and then they wouldn't have had to nerf the arcanist class skill on it....

SilverIce58 · September 18

Shawn_PT wrote: »

SilverIce58 wrote: »

I would like to see Undaunted get an Ult but I do NOT want it to be a Shout. You're not a Dragonborn, you're the Vestige. You want to shout, go play the only Elder Scrolls game to have it.

Tbh you don't have to be Dragonborn to learn shouts. It just takes a lot, lot more time, AKA the perfect type of grind ESO likes to impose.

My burly, greatsword-wielding Nords aren't specially gifted mages either, and yet here they are, slotting Psijic spells. From a secretive guild that's supposed to only allow the most adept of mages in. Not even the naturally-gifted Altmer can just apply. It's that special.

I'm not advocating FOR it, mind you. I'm just stating ESO has tossed the Lore out of the window many, many years ago. What's one more absurd step?

The only ones who would have knowledge of shouting are the Dragons and the Greybeards. I can see maybe the Undaunted discovering a shout while dungeon delving, but they would absolutely just pass it over to the Mages Guild for study. Maybe a song ultimate where it's bardic magic would be a better idea than specifically shouting. Especially when you think about morphing it, like mastering one shout and then changing it into two different versions would require some intense level of knowledge and know-how.

YandereGirlfriend · September 19

Undaunted line is about synergies and group support and utility.

So there's lots of interesting possibilities.

Renato90085 · September 19

and need 2 more passive too..

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · September 19

NoSoup wrote: »

Given we're about to start the undaunted event for this year, I feel it fitting to ask, why no undaunted ultimate? All weapons, both alliance trees, fighters guild, mages guild and even the psijic guild have an ultimate ability. Yet the poor old undaunted are left without. No other guild ties into "dungeons" as much as the undaunted, yet they're the most "unequipped". Give us an ultimate worthy of hur-rahing too.....

This has been a topic of discussion with ZOS replying its in consideration for about 8 years or more

Finedaible · September 19

Morvan wrote: »

It would be interesting to have the first Ultimate Grimoire to be on the Undaunted line.

I thought the exact thing after reading OP's post. Perhaps more restricted than normal scribed abilities obviously, but it would be a good opportunity to finally give them an ult with some support aspects. Was always weird that Undaunted should be the only combat skill line without an ultimate.