Eidetic Memory: Bug List

jle30303 · September 3

In "Solstice Summations", the document "Reward for Missing Steed!" which is supposed to start the quest "Honor Bound", has more bugs than just simply the lack of a post-quest location: it sometimes never appears in game at all, it is completely absent even before ever starting the quest, forcing one to start the quest by talking to the NPC. (And the fact that you can start the quest by talking to the NPC anyway even if the document is *present* - causing it to disappear without being read - is why there needs to be a post-quest location.)

There is a current guess, that this may be related to there being ANOTHER quest of the EXACT SAME NAME - "Honor Bound" - in Deshaan, in the base game (part of the Muth Gnaar hills, southwest of Mournhold). This may or may not be completely flying a kite.

Proposed solution: The document does not ever need to disappear at all, even after being correctly read to start the quest. There should be no conditions on its appearance at all: it should ALWAYS be there, in the same place.

Also proposed solution: Change the name of the Solstice quest. "Honor Lost" or "Honor Mislaid" would be my suggestion since Cadwell's pet guar is, indeed, lost or mislaid.

Gabriel_H · September 3

jle30303 wrote: »

In "Solstice Summations", the document "Reward for Missing Steed!" which is supposed to start the quest "Honor Bound", has more bugs than just simply the lack of a post-quest location: it sometimes never appears in game at all, it is completely absent even before ever starting the quest, forcing one to start the quest by talking to the NPC. (And the fact that you can start the quest by talking to the NPC anyway even if the document is *present* - causing it to disappear without being read - is why there needs to be a post-quest location.)

There is a current guess, that this may be related to there being ANOTHER quest of the EXACT SAME NAME - "Honor Bound" - in Deshaan, in the base game (part of the Muth Gnaar hills, southwest of Mournhold). This may or may not be completely flying a kite.

Proposed solution: The document does not ever need to disappear at all, even after being correctly read to start the quest. There should be no conditions on its appearance at all: it should ALWAYS be there, in the same place.

Also proposed solution: Change the name of the Solstice quest. "Honor Lost" or "Honor Mislaid" would be my suggestion since Cadwell's pet guar is, indeed, lost or mislaid.

The cause appears two-fold: It disappears after doing the quest and also doing the zone quest at Shor's.

BuffNukem · September 4

Gabriel_H wrote: »

BuffNukem wrote: »

Perhaps ZoS fixed it in U47, but I'm still on U46 for few more days. I didn't see any note about it in the PC's U47 patch notes.

There are a few undocumented changes. Would you be so kind as to update me once U47 hits?

U47 did fix the duplicate entry of "Jewelry Crafting Survey: Wrothgar I" and it changed the total number of surveys from 26 to 25. But, in doing their fix, it did cause my EM to lose credit for "Jewelry Crafting Survey: Wrothgar II" which I previously had learned. Luckily I still had the survey in my bank so I could re-learn it quickly.

My EM prior to U47: Shows the duplicate "Wrothgar I" entry and also shows "Wrothgar II" as learned:

My EM today after U47 dropped: Shows they removed the duplicate "Wrothgar I" entry, but also "Wrothgar II" is now unlearned:

Gabriel_H · September 4

BuffNukem wrote: »

U47 did fix the duplicate entry of "Jewelry Crafting Survey: Wrothgar I" and it changed the total number of surveys from 26 to 25. But, in doing their fix, it did cause my EM to lose credit for "Jewelry Crafting Survey: Wrothgar II" which I previously had learned. Luckily I still had the survey in my bank so I could re-learn it quickly.

Glad it is (sort of) fixed for you. At least re-learning the lost entry wasn't painful for you. No doubt it will be for some though.

birdmann1230 · September 4

jle30303 wrote: »

In "Solstice Summations", the document "Reward for Missing Steed!" which is supposed to start the quest "Honor Bound", has more bugs than just simply the lack of a post-quest location: it sometimes never appears in game at all, it is completely absent even before ever starting the quest, forcing one to start the quest by talking to the NPC. (And the fact that you can start the quest by talking to the NPC anyway even if the document is *present* - causing it to disappear without being read - is why there needs to be a post-quest location.)

There is a current guess, that this may be related to there being ANOTHER quest of the EXACT SAME NAME - "Honor Bound" - in Deshaan, in the base game (part of the Muth Gnaar hills, southwest of Mournhold). This may or may not be completely flying a kite.

Proposed solution: The document does not ever need to disappear at all, even after being correctly read to start the quest. There should be no conditions on its appearance at all: it should ALWAYS be there, in the same place.

Also proposed solution: Change the name of the Solstice quest. "Honor Lost" or "Honor Mislaid" would be my suggestion since Cadwell's pet guar is, indeed, lost or mislaid.

This is the conclusion we came to in the other thread as someone had opened a ticket regarding this lore page, we figured that glitch out. Haven’t gotten an update though. Not doing that quest until we know it’s fixed.