The daily crafting writs are the best way in game to get rich. They give a lot of gold for how little time you need to spend on them, and the legendary upgrade mats that have a roughly 1-in-3 chance to drop at max level are extremely valuable. I don't know anyone who does not start out every game day doing the daily crafting writs. They are the absolute best return on investment in entire game for both low time needed and low cost to make white CP150 gear. It's practically a free 5,000 gold for a few minutes work. Per character. Even doing it on one char per day is almost 2 million gold per year before the proceeds from selling legendary mats (or money savings from not needing to buy/farm gold mats when you need to upgrade own gear).

If you are not interested in returns for doing crafting that is perfectly fine. You do not need to do them.

One reason was already mentioned above: basically free gold for a minimum of work. Another, is doing master writs that reward XP and writ vouchers that can be used to buy stuff. Those reasons are why so many players are making at least one master crafter and doing crafting dailies on multiple characters.

I have recently started to actually play (as opposed to using it as an extra storage) my alt account. Free account I got from Epic. Just to see what you can do without eso+ or any DLC you have to pay for. Without the crafting bag the possibilities are indeed quite limited. I use my main account to craft some basic sets for the account - so this is equivalent of buying from guild stores. But what I noticed you should still do:

- Level up Alchemy to 50 for the Medicinal Use passive
- Level up Provisioning if you want the food/drink duration passives (not as important as Alchemy)
- Learn the useful traits if you plan to reconstruct sets (like divines for body pieces, bloodthirsty for jewelry, nirnhoned/charged/infused for weapons)
- Level up gear crafting skills for the upgrade passives - makes it cheaper to reconstruct higher quality items

Thanks for the opinions.

The biggest reason is Daily crafting writs. They give you a little gold and materials.
I have a separate character with maxed-out crafting so I can spend fewer resources on upgrading equipment and traits for transmutation. But I'm too lazy to log him in, sometimes it's really easier to buy something from the guild merchant.

Crafting is not something that I grind, although I will put some effort into getting the skills maxed for each character and have them learn all the gear traits. After that, it's pretty much knocking out dailies if I log on with them that day and clearing out surveys periodically to reduce clutter (much reduced since stackable surveys) or replenish mats. I make a special effort to run through all characters' crafting dailies during Anniversary Celebration, but it's otherwise just something that I have them do as their first task upon logging in. I was kinda grinding writ vouchers for a few months while getting my Grand Master stations up to 81/81, but have mostly dropped back to logging in with a couple of characters to take care of other stuff and knocking out crafting dailies in the process.

Net result from doing that is all the Grand Master stations and all 81 of the craftable set stations, a bunch of Master Writs now taking up seven storage slots rather than dozens (I'll get around to them when there's a double-XP event), many millions from selling off excess gold upgrade mats ("excess" means I keep at least one full stack for my own use), many more millions just from crafting dailies (and being careful about what I spend gold on), a crafter who is a couple or three dozen chapters shy of knowing all motifs and most of the gold furnishing plans, the ability to sell off useful consumables (not as profitable as gold upgrade mats, but still...), and a few other miscellaneous perks. I also never have to spend any time in zone or guild chat looking for a crafter, but any character can respond to other players who are looking for one. Not a bad return for something that takes maybe five minutes per character login.

Apart from the reason previously mentioned by the other players, you have to understand (or at least acknowledge) that learning new things is very satisfying and that your brain needs to be nourished as much as your bank account and your CP level counter.

Learning new recipes and blueprints, buying a house, furnishing it with items you have crafted yourself, depending on your tastes and skills... another very enjoyable part of the crafting in TESO. O f course it doesn't bring gold - that's what master writs are here for - but at least it lets you express your creativity (if you have some).

Petoften wrote: »

SpiritofESO wrote: »

Not only are the Daily Crafting Writs profitable but when you have maxed your all your crafting skills and done all researchable traits, you then have the ability to create any type of gear or weapon or jewelry or provision or potion or poison or enchantment that you desire. And that is a very great ability in the game.

But I'd ask why. So I make my chars the gear I want, and don't need to make more indefinitely. And if I'd wanted, I could have bought them from a crafter.

I believe that you will agree, after a while, that it's a mere 10 or 15 minutes work for very substantial rewards.

I'm seeing that there are different opinions about how rewarding the crafting is. It's good to see people are feeling that it's rewarding.

Thing is, you do need to make more gear indefinitely. Every couple of months zos changes the game, and some of the gear you have becomes irrelevant. Or you have an idea for a different build you want to try, which requires sets you don't have available yet. Or you try something new like pvp, arenas, infinite archive, trials... and realize you need a different, more optimized build than you currently have. Crafting and daily writs means you always have the materials available to do so.

Research is especially important, at least on one character. You can buy crafted gear from others in any trait you like, but stickerbook gear can only be reconstructed with the traits you've researched.

I sort of get the house thing, but I think I have made one item for my house, a nice bed. I like it, but it's not a big thing for crafting. Most items don't seem ones I like much and I don't get much into the careful items in a house.

In my opinion there isnt enough true crafting.

For one i think reconstructed gear should require at least the refined mats as part of the cost.

Enchanting should last longer, but require a new glyph once it does break, or at least consume a soul gem for armor Enchants.

Among other improvements.

darkriketz wrote: »

Apart from the reason previously mentioned by the other players, you have to understand (or at least acknowledge) that learning new things is very satisfying and that your brain needs to be nourished as much as your bank account and your CP level counter.

Learning new recipes and blueprints, buying a house, furnishing it with items you have crafted yourself, depending on your tastes and skills... another very enjoyable part of the crafting in TESO. O f course it doesn't bring gold - that's what master writs are here for - but at least it lets you express your creativity (if you have some).

I am very grateful to all addons that help to keep track on which account and character things are stored or learned as it can become rather messy to keep track manually on which character which motif have been learned which is needed when crafting some Master Writs that make use of traits and motif.

At least collecting gear from dungeons or overland content and adding stickerbook items for completion, finding plans or recipes and add those to the increasing list of items that have can be learned and figure out which account or character that should have those learned is part of my game play.

Character Knowledge and Inventory Insight is a great help here to keep that track of all of this and Dolgubon's Lazy Writ Crafter makes this pretty fast and easy (as long it works as it can break between updates if ZOS changes something).

Map completion, collection of any type and achievement is a large part of this game and can be fun as it make game something one can play as an Single Player game even when it is an MMO when one have two accounts (and a personal Guild Bank), on both account all Assistants to help with managing items (decon, bank and sell junk with merchant Assistant) combined with Companions.

The gold from doing daily crafting writs is not where most of the profit comes from. The real profit is the gold mats that are received from turning the writs in, and from doing the surveys then refining. Selling those gold mats brings in a LOT more gold than just what is received from turning in the writ quests.

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

The daily crafting writs are the best way in game to get rich. They give a lot of gold for how little time you need to spend on them, and the legendary upgrade mats that have a roughly 1-in-3 chance to drop at max level are extremely valuable. I don't know anyone who does not start out every game day doing the daily crafting writs. They are the absolute best return on investment in entire game for both low time needed and low cost to make white CP150 gear. It's practically a free 5,000 gold for a few minutes work. Per character. Even doing it on one char per day is almost 2 million gold per year before the proceeds from selling legendary mats (or money savings from not needing to buy/farm gold mats when you need to upgrade own gear).

Yeah, back in the day I used to get about 1.3 million gold per day in value doing writs on all characters. Some time after the jewelry plating changes, the market just kinda crashed and I slowed way way down. I've tried to pick this back up again but it's nowhere close to as valuable as it used to be (though as you said, it still kicks butt in value).

Erm.. Finishing Master Writs when 100xp boni are in place is by far the most rewarding and controlled way to level up experience while at the same time rushing through subclass skill lines, learning them without the hassle to actually use them.

Crafting can be pretty awesome, done the rigth way.