Vigor is one of the most overused skills in PvP, and you want to make it even easier to run?

dark_hunterxmg wrote: »

There are enough sources of healing available already. If anything Vigor should cost more.

What alternatives would you use on magicka builds? Just interested to find better sticky heal alternatives like vigor.

Yudo wrote: »

dark_hunterxmg wrote: »

There are enough sources of healing available already. If anything Vigor should cost more.

What alternatives would you use on magicka builds? Just interested to find better sticky heal alternatives like vigor.

The mag alternatives are typically damage shields, such as Annulment or class shields. But for some builds, there can be a lack of a self-targeted-exclusive burst heal/short HoT like vigor.

Yudo wrote: »

CameraBeardThePirate wrote: »

Vigor is one of the most overused skills in PvP, and you want to make it even easier to run?

I assume that those who use it already find ways to use it, but maybe that is not correct.

Yes, they find ways to use it - as in make sure they run enough off stat sustain. Thats still a sacrifice you have to make.

If you make it cost magicka, that instantly makes it easier for mag-based builds to run it without having to worry about getting stam locked. It does not need that sort of buff.

There is no reason to change vigor, there are not that many stam heals in the game, and echoing ends up on alot of healers bars for that reason when there are not class stam heals available for all. If you are that desperate for a similar heal that is magicka look at scribed skills, you can make a heal that has an initial burst heal followed by a HOT (that together is probably better than the selfish vigor) and you can still have it provide minor resolve if you really want.

For stamina dps this would change nothing. And for mag dps and healers, since mag skills tend to be higher cost for some reason, I would think changing it to max resource would be unsustainable.

Yudo wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I like having a few stam skills on a mag build to help manage resources. Similarly, my stam (bow) build prefers to use a mag heal for the same reason.

Makes sense did not consider hybrid builds that want to take advantage of both resources. Though Echoing Vigor is so valuable as a multi target sticky heal, I thought hybrid cost could be good solution. I guess just need to increase sustain for now to use it.

You don't need to increase sustain. The mere act of using it is the source of sustain. Hybrid isn't a theoretical possibility - it's the strongest option. In this case you can spit the use of your resource pools which puts less strain on either. This is why everyone in PvP can sustain indefinitely with something like 13k-15k max stats and just a little recovery in their preferred stat.