sarahthes wrote: »

Tyralbin wrote: »

I don't think it make sense to run the PVP tests during an event; yet.

Firstly wouldn't it be better to get Cyrodiil more stable and then run test during normal play. Once they are sorted then run a vengence during an event.

Cyrodiil isn't stable during normal play as it is.

This is probably what is causing all the stability issues on PC EU at the moment.

Just my opinion.

The point of Vengeance is to test what kinds of things can make cyrodiil more stable.

Read what I wrote.

It should be done in stages.

Test at different stages of the game until it is more stable.

Tyralbin wrote: »

I don't think it make sense to run the PVP tests during an event; yet.

Firstly wouldn't it be better to get Cyrodiil more stable and then run test during normal play. Once they are sorted then run a vengence during an event.

Cyrodiil isn't stable during normal play as it is.

This is probably what is causing all the stability issues on PC EU at the moment.

Just my opinion.

For PS server I get the impression it's the campaign causing the server issues for us it seems almost not compatible with console

sarahthes wrote: »

RealLoveBVB wrote: »

sarahthes wrote: »

Tyralbin wrote: »

I don't think it make sense to run the PVP tests during an event; yet.

Firstly wouldn't it be better to get Cyrodiil more stable and then run test during normal play. Once they are sorted then run a vengence during an event.

Cyrodiil isn't stable during normal play as it is.

This is probably what is causing all the stability issues on PC EU at the moment.

Just my opinion.

The point of Vengeance is to test what kinds of things can make cyrodiil more stable.

Yeah, at the cost of everything else, including the Zenithars event. Players can't log in or zone. Nothing is working.

It's only affecting EU, and it's affecting all EU servers not just one platform. It's probably not coding related or NA would also be having problems.

Is NA down too?

Exactly the same has happened in the past.

One server has issues whilst the other doesn't.

And the people from those servers comment on this forum.

In all those cases the problem has been resolved on the particular server side.

Servers are like computers no two are alike.

*just here for the conspiracy theories*

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Wanted to step in and reiterate a few points and provide some clarity.

The point of this test is to work toward a stable Cyrodiil. We have explained this a few times, but this is the test being done in stages. We already had one round of testing with everything stripped back. This is the second test with a few more ability lines added back in.

After chatting with the team, the Vengeance test is not causing instability issues. We are working on stabilizing things, especially for EU Megaservers, but have identified the Vengeance Test is not the cause.

Ideally, we would like to have avoided an event for testing, but we have internal timelines we are factoring in as well. As we've noted before, this is a functional test. We are actively taking learns and seeing what work can be done to make a better Cyrodiil.

Allow me to disagree
With respect there are factors ZOS is simply not quantifying in forcing all pvp players into a cookie cutter campaign where all stats are standard. Regardless of the literally thousands of hours spent farming gear and fine tuning playstyle there are many Meta factors getting ignored for instance the affect of ping. I play with a standards ping of 250ms out of South Africa. There is no way around it. This is why I for instance play with Oakensoul as I am at a distinct disadvantage with bar swapping and animation cancelling in combat when I fight against a player with lets say 50 ping.

If ZOS wants to test at least leave 1 campaign for the players like me who do not want to be part of the test.

Where did I sign up for being a tester?

It felt more like a massive logging-in amount of people that just jammed up the system on EU servers, it took 10mins to get into the character select screen, ten mins to get to load the character itself, then I sat at "please wait ..." to get into cyrodiil for another 10mins. People were reporting getting booted out of server and being stuck at various steps of log in/teleporting at the same time.

We tend to get these kind of traffic jam issues when the servers come back online just as 'prime time' is starting - which clears up once the bulk of people have got through the queue getting online.

After about 50mins-1hr of that slow loading the server seemed fine, and we went on to play absolutely humongous fights across cyrodiil with no lag, no combat bug, no screen jittering, and had an epic time.

With any luck as people will come on at different times today as they don't need to 'get therir character sorted beforehand' the logging in will be spread out, and we won't make a huge traffic jam. And hopefully once the server chugging along worked itself out yesterday, you were able to get back to Zenithar's event.

Also, running the test now means that the Golden Vendor selling with a discount is not going to be accessible this weekend. Will this be moved to the following weekend, or are we just going to miss out on the savings completely?

Really annoying that they are running an event where we get a 10% discount at the AP vendors in Cyrodiil but we can't access the AP vendors in Cyrodiil because they are running a different event. Any chance we are going to get an extension on that discount?

marius_buys wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Wanted to step in and reiterate a few points and provide some clarity.

The point of this test is to work toward a stable Cyrodiil. We have explained this a few times, but this is the test being done in stages. We already had one round of testing with everything stripped back. This is the second test with a few more ability lines added back in.

After chatting with the team, the Vengeance test is not causing instability issues. We are working on stabilizing things, especially for EU Megaservers, but have identified the Vengeance Test is not the cause.

Ideally, we would like to have avoided an event for testing, but we have internal timelines we are factoring in as well. As we've noted before, this is a functional test. We are actively taking learns and seeing what work can be done to make a better Cyrodiil.

Allow me to disagree
With respect there are factors ZOS is simply not quantifying in forcing all pvp players into a cookie cutter campaign where all stats are standard. Regardless of the literally thousands of hours spent farming gear and fine tuning playstyle there are many Meta factors getting ignored for instance the affect of ping. I play with a standards ping of 250ms out of South Africa. There is no way around it. This is why I for instance play with Oakensoul as I am at a distinct disadvantage with bar swapping and animation cancelling in combat when I fight against a player with lets say 50 ping.

If ZOS wants to test at least leave 1 campaign for the players like me who do not want to be part of the test.

Why? Wouldn't you want them to collect data for people who have similar situations as you (there are many).

They have logs and can tell all the routes players take across the oceans to get to their servers - wouldn't you want them to collect data so they can use that to help improve those routes?

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Wanted to step in and reiterate a few points and provide some clarity.

The point of this test is to work toward a stable Cyrodiil. We have explained this a few times, but this is the test being done in stages. We already had one round of testing with everything stripped back. This is the second test with a few more ability lines added back in.

After chatting with the team, the Vengeance test is not causing instability issues. We are working on stabilizing things, especially for EU Megaservers, but have identified the Vengeance Test is not the cause.

Ideally, we would like to have avoided an event for testing, but we have internal timelines we are factoring in as well. As we've noted before, this is a functional test. We are actively taking learns and seeing what work can be done to make a better Cyrodiil.

@ZOS_Kevin I am on PS NA so the EU issues aren’t affecting me, but the Vengeance campaign is even more laggy than regular Gray Host. Maybe it’s the Zenithar event stress impacting it somehow, but PvE zones seem fine, just Cyrodiil. My faction only had one bar too and the others were two bars. I also wanted to mention that pop-in is just horrible everywhere since the last update. I am getting video together to make a post about it later. I’ve had giant trees just appear suddenly in front of me while riding on my mount.

EDIT: oops typo

LadyGP wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ZOS_Kevin wrote: »

Wanted to step in and reiterate a few points and provide some clarity.

The point of this test is to work toward a stable Cyrodiil. We have explained this a few times, but this is the test being done in stages. We already had one round of testing with everything stripped back. This is the second test with a few more ability lines added back in.

After chatting with the team, the Vengeance test is not causing instability issues. We are working on stabilizing things, especially for EU Megaservers, but have identified the Vengeance Test is not the cause.

Ideally, we would like to have avoided an event for testing, but we have internal timelines we are factoring in as well. As we've noted before, this is a functional test. We are actively taking learns and seeing what work can be done to make a better Cyrodiil.

@ZOS_Kevin I am on PS NA so the EU issues aren’t affecting me, but the Vengeance campaign is even more laggy than regular Gray Host. Maybe it’s the Zenithar event stress impacting it somehow, but PvE zones seem fine, just Cyrodiil. My faction only had one bar too and the others were two bars. I also wanted to mention that pop-in is just horrible everywhere since the last update. I am getting video together to make a post about it later. I’ve had giant trees just appear suddenly in front of me while riding on my mount.

EDIT: oops typo

So... I will admit I haven't been keeping up with the add-ons on console thing so if what I say is total bs then please forgive me.

Do you have a lot of add-ons (or any for that matter running)? - please dont smack me lol.

I will say when I go into cyro my add-ons are behaving kind of wonky right now and I'm not sure if it's just because the recent update or the cyro test.

I didn’t have any addons the first day for any characters, but today I put a couple on my main character, but she is not in the test campaign.

The real problem is that you can't buy anything from AP vendors in the Vengeance campaing, when the discount available at these vendors is an explicit part of the Zenithar event.

Vendor prices across Tamriel are reduced by 10%

These include:
Vendors that sell items for gold, AP, or Tel Var stones, including the Golden Vendor

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/68307

I was really looking forward to this to fill my sticker book. Guess I'll check back next year?