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the new crate bundle for 8000 crowns
Thee_Cheshire_Cat
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akatosh vs alduin crates.
All i had wanted was one of the emotes... i thought ok, 25 crates, wow, my odds to get a little emote should be pretty good...
Boy was i wrong.
i could not believe the amount of potions and crap items i ended up with. Entire waste of crowns. i was so disappointed.
And no, never got a surprise huge item that woulda been cool that i didnt really 'want' .
To those of you who have a good amount of luck and success with these things, don't take it for granted.
All i had wanted was one of the emotes... i thought ok, 25 crates, wow, my odds to get a little emote should be pretty good...
Boy was i wrong.
i could not believe the amount of potions and crap items i ended up with. Entire waste of crowns. i was so disappointed.
And no, never got a surprise huge item that woulda been cool that i didnt really 'want' .To those of you who have a good amount of luck and success with these things, don't take it for granted.
Lady Kat, from the Cheshire Cats.Interested in HEAVY RP? IC at -all- times? https://thecheshirecatseso.proboards.com/#CheshireCats_RPnow
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DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
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Thee_Cheshire_Cat✭✭✭✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.Lady Kat, from the Cheshire Cats.Interested in HEAVY RP? IC at -all- times? https://thecheshirecatseso.proboards.com/#CheshireCats_RPnow8 -
moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
the point of buying crates is to get gems. You can never, ever get anything good. Even when you do get some high tier rewards, they're usually not what you want, and actually cause you to receive less gems because they can't be extracted.5 -
Twohothardware✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They definitely need to decrease the number of potions and other useless items in the Crown Crates and give more of the 40-100 gem cost items. You should also be guaranteed one mount in these large Crate bundles.6 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
Edited by DenverRalphy on June 28, 2025 8:29PM14 -
valenwood_vegan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Crates are literally gambling. Having bad luck with crates totally sucks, but they're working as intended. Crates do not exist to be fair or to give us what we want, they exist to extract money from us. Buying crates because we think surely we'll get that one thing we actually want is *exactly* what they want us to do.
Imo, the best thing to do is to stick to endeavors / gems (from twitch crates and allowing oneself to buy a small/fixed number of crates each season with no expectations). I of course can't get everything I want every time this way, but I try to save up endeavors or gems until there's something that really appeals to me.
I wish things were different, but there's very little chance that zos is going to suddenly change how crates work as long as people keep buying them.
Edited by valenwood_vegan on June 28, 2025 9:18PM6 -
Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
"Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes4 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.5 -
Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
"Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes5 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
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AzuraFan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I usually buy the 8000 crown crate item, but not this time. Not with the "free" senche mount item. I'm voting with my wallet that I don't want to see that type of item in the store.
And yes, there are too many duplicates from crates, and the good items keep getting bumped up a level so they're harder to get. Sure, you get gems, but the amount of gems you get vs. the amount you would need to buy the item outright is pathetic.2 -
Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes1 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
Emotes are typically in the 40 - 100 gem range, and never higher than 100. In order for the player to not earn enough gems to purchase one with a 15 crate pack, they'd literally have to loot pretty much every other unique prize offered to prevent them from getting gem producing drops.
Edited by DenverRalphy on June 29, 2025 2:30PM2 -
Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
Emotes are typically in the 40 - 100 gem range, and never higher than 100. In order for the player to not earn enough gems to purchase one with a 15 crate pack, they'd literally have to loot pretty much every other prize offered to prevent them from getting gem producing drops.
So you concede that what I stated is possible and in fact not hyperbole. An exteme example? Yes, but not hyperbole."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes0 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
there are 4 emotes in the Akatosh vs Alduin crates
- World Eater's Fire Dance: 100 gems/3600 seals.
- Nordic Yell and Yawp: 40 gems/2000 seals.
- Crossed Fingers: 16 gems/1000 seals.
- Warm Hands: 16 gems/1000 seals.
that is 172 gems or 7600 seals incase they have enough of those.
Either roughly 4 crates if you're lucky or about 15 to get the necessary gems.
And there are Twitch drops regularly so we can also get gems from the Ouroborus crates.
definitely closer to 40 dollars than 300.miaow! i'm Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
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PlayStation and PC EU.
LunaLolaBlossom on psn.
LunaFloraBlossom on pc.1 -
Pixiepumpkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
there are 4 emotes in the Akatosh vs Alduin crates
- World Eater's Fire Dance: 100 gems/3600 seals.
- Nordic Yell and Yawp: 40 gems/2000 seals.
- Crossed Fingers: 16 gems/1000 seals.
- Warm Hands: 16 gems/1000 seals.
that is 172 gems or 7600 seals incase they have enough of those.
Either roughly 4 crates if you're lucky or about 15 to get the necessary gems.
And there are Twitch drops regularly so we can also get gems from the Ouroborus crates.
definitely closer to 40 dollars than 300.
An aweful lot of "ifs" in there.
It still depends on their RNG of other collected items. I have purchased the 25 crown crate pack in the past and not even amassed 70 gems. I called it my "good luck run".
At the $15.00 crown pack, a 1:1 ratio, I would have spent $80.00 and then some in order to get to 100 gems.
A $100.00 is still insanely INSANELY ridiculous for an emote."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes3 -
DenverRalphy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
Emotes are typically in the 40 - 100 gem range, and never higher than 100. In order for the player to not earn enough gems to purchase one with a 15 crate pack, they'd literally have to loot pretty much every other prize offered to prevent them from getting gem producing drops.
So you concede that what I stated is possible and in fact not hyperbole. An exteme example? Yes, but not hyperbole.
Not at all. What you stated was indeed hyperbole. I challenge you to open $300 worth of crown crates and not be able to acquire a simple emote.
If a player opens up 15 crown crates, and gets every other unique item possible to prevent them from acquiring the emote via gems, somehow I don't think they'd be venting their frustration about it. But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative.
Edited by DenverRalphy on June 29, 2025 2:49PM5 -
sarahthes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
In other games you can spend USD60.00 to get leveled to cap for a new character.
I think I prefer for my uh... macrotransactions... to be for cosmetics only, rather than actual click a button and you're at max level now.0 -
moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »It still depends on their RNG of other collected items. I have purchased the 25 crown crate pack in the past and not even amassed 70 gems. I called it my "good luck run".
Because it's the first batch you bought for that type of crate and it just contained too many useless rewards that cannot be extracted?
Yet some people are asking higher reward chances, not realizing thay all but the one reward are just distractions and their values are negative. What we should ask is to either replacing gems with crowns on flat rate or making every rewards extractable, e.g. 300 gems for an apex mount.2 -
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✭✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
the point of buying crates is to get gems. You can never, ever get anything good. Even when you do get some high tier rewards, they're usually not what you want, and actually cause you to receive less gems because they can't be extracted.
But then consider the abysmal low amount of gems that you get from that trash loot...
The amount of real money that you have to spend on 100 gems is insane.4 -
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✭✭DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
And they're not expected to spend that much for an emote. The OP purchased the 25crate bundle. Even a 15 crate pack would generate enough gems to purchase the emote they were looking for.
I'm not going to pretend that crown crates are cheap. But at the same time, $300 for an emote? Surely you can see the hyperbole in that.
Depends on the cost of the emote and the OP's luck in obtaining all the other items.
All I know is that on avergage a purple gem is worth about 4x a single crown. Gem items are EXPENSIVE, even the cheap stuff.
Emotes are typically in the 40 - 100 gem range, and never higher than 100. In order for the player to not earn enough gems to purchase one with a 15 crate pack, they'd literally have to loot pretty much every other prize offered to prevent them from getting gem producing drops.
So you concede that what I stated is possible and in fact not hyperbole. An exteme example? Yes, but not hyperbole.
Not at all. What you stated was indeed hyperbole. I challenge you to open $300 worth of crown crates and not be able to acquire a simple emote.
If a player opens up 15 crown crates, and gets every other unique item possible to prevent them from acquiring the emote via gems, somehow I don't think they'd be venting their frustration about it. But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative.
I take your challenge. Send me 300 USD and I will gladly test your theory with a video recording.
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✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Pixiepumpkin wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »DenverRalphy wrote: »Crate Emotes are 100 gems or less. Surely after 25 crown crates you got more than enough "potions and crap items" that you can exchange for at least that much (likely more).
Not the point.
Actually it's entirely the point. You were hunting for a specific item. Your claim is that the crates dropped nothing to accomplish that goal. But they did, as they dropped items that can be extracted for gems. The gem exchange system is there to support that.
If a player chooses to not utilize that function, that's on the player.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel mount, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $10 USD, and even that is absurd.
The OP questioned nothing about the grand prize of the crown crates. Quite the opposite. They were discussing the acquisition of a simple emote. There are other threads discussing the issue you take objection to though, I'm sure.
Good point. Let me rephrase my post.
The point is that players should ABSOLUTELY NOT BE ASKED TO SPEND 300 dollars to get a pixel emote, that other game developers make to a 10x fold of what ESO does, and do not charge a penny for them, instead include them in game play.
There is not a "microtransaction" on the planet that should cost more than $5 USD, and even that is absurd.
In other games you can spend USD60.00 to get leveled to cap for a new character.
I think I prefer for my uh... macrotransactions... to be for cosmetics only, rather than actual click a button and you're at max level now.
That comparison makes no sense. If a game exists where you can purchase leveling, you can also level that character yourself.
In ESO, you can not earn crown crate rewards in the game without money being spent first."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes0 -
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✭✭Pixiepumpkin wrote: »It still depends on their RNG of other collected items. I have purchased the 25 crown crate pack in the past and not even amassed 70 gems. I called it my "good luck run".
Because it's the first batch you bought for that type of crate and it just contained too many useless rewards that cannot be extracted?
Yet some people are asking higher reward chances, not realizing thay all but the one reward are just distractions and their values are negative. What we should ask is to either replacing gems with crowns on flat rate or making every rewards extractable, e.g. 300 gems for an apex mount.
I disagree.
What we should ask is to make crown crate items on sale all year long labeled with a real monetary price based on the currency of the purchasers country."Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes1 -
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✭Potions, Poisons, Repair Kits, Soul Gems and the god-awful Dye Packs shouldn't even be part of Crown Crates, IMHO. If one is REALLY that desperate for such basic items that have a meaningless gold cost, they can always buy from Crown Store as separate items, but not dilute the RNG as they currently are.I am the very model of a scientist Salarian, I've studied species Turian, Asari, and Batarian.
I'm quite good at genetics (as a subset of biology) because I am an expert (which I know is a tautology).
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✭✭✭Thee_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »akatosh vs alduin crates.
All i had wanted was one of the emotes... i thought ok, 25 crates, wow, my odds to get a little emote should be pretty good...
Boy was i wrong.
i could not believe the amount of potions and crap items i ended up with. Entire waste of crowns. i was so disappointed. And no, never got a surprise huge item that woulda been cool that i didnt really 'want' .
To those of you who have a good amount of luck and success with these things, don't take it for granted.
ZOS's argument would be that you can obtain gems from Twitch drop crates or use endeavours to get this type of thing.@Solar_Breeze
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✭✭Unfortunately, this is bigger than ESO. Values throughout much of western society have changed. Crates are a symptom of a much deeper problem that won't be solved here.
I don't like it, but our complaints in the forums are a drop in the bucket. I'm not saying don't complain, our discussions here really have no impact. If you don't like it, the only thing to do is vote with your dollars by not participating. If you ever do, you are encouraging more of the same.
But more than that. Put it into perspective. They're just cosmetics in a game. They're meaningless.
People need to understand no one is going to save them from themselves in this day and age. Be smart, be strong.spending a year dead for tax reasons1 -
dark_hunterxmg✭✭✭✭magnusthorek wrote: »Potions, Poisons, Repair Kits, Soul Gems and the god-awful Dye Packs shouldn't even be part of Crown Crates, IMHO. If one is REALLY that desperate for such basic items that have a meaningless gold cost, they can always buy from Crown Store as separate items, but not dilute the RNG as they currently are.
Ugh. The crown soul gems. Those get destroyed immediately.0 -
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