Would upgrading my CPU improve frame rate

SirCyanideRose · June 11

Currently have a Ryzen7 5800x, GPU is Geforce RTX 3070, 64GB RAM. Game installed on C: drive with is a SSD.

My motherboard can take a Ryzen 9 5950x and that's what I'm thinking of upgrading too.

Overall, my game runs fine, normally silky smooth, even on triple monitor. However, whenever one of the financial addons like MM, or TTC or whatever, is running and updating, my framerate will drop down from over 100 to like....15cps. So, I'm thinking this is a CPU intensive process.

Has anyone done an upgrade like this and seen a framerate improvement, or would it still be a thing even with a faster CPU?

Kamchuk · June 11

SirCyanideRose - My experience has been that recently this game is GPU intensive rather than CPU. I have an Intel i13900 and I had a Nvidia 2080 TI. I had to reduce some of the video settings to make sure the game stayed above 40 fps, especially in intense Cyro battles. The CPU utilization was always hovering around 15-20%. I have just recently upgraded my GPU to the Nvidia 5080 AIO cooled card. Now my video settings are maxed out in all categories, I have discord running, Nvidia Broadcast running and youtube videos running, all at the same time. My FPS NEVER goes below 100. My CPU still stays around 15-20%. And this is on the Samsung 57" widescreen monitor at 120 HZ, at 8K display settings. (I do NOT run Addons.)

But there is a simple test that you can run before you make any decisions. Startup Task Manager and select the performance tab and watch your CPU utilization. Add your addons in and see if that impacts your CPU usage. That will tell you for sure what direction to take.

Hope this helps

madman65 · June 13

This will help, you need to know Mhz of your monitor: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/584759/frame-rate-cap-adjustment-how-to-limit-your-fps-from-being-too-high-updated

exiars10 · June 13

@ SirCyanideRose

Don't waste money on Ryzen 9 5950X. You'll gain nothing in performance for games.

I had R5 5600 and upgraded to R7 5700X3D. Bought it last year when it was dirt cheap (just 170 € on amazon.de).
Ryzen 3D models are the best for MMO (simulators, simulations, strategies and similar) games because of the massive 3D cache which improves lows.

I have Radeon RX 6600, too, and with that CPU I run everything maxed and capped at 120 fps in 1080p resolution.

SirCyanideRose · June 20

Been paying closer attention to this, and I know for a fact its an issue with the addon. Not sure if its' MM, or TTC, or whatever guild trader addon I have, but it literally only happens when this addon is doing something. Normally, its right after I sign in which I'm used to, then some time later, while I'm just playing along. All of a sudden I start getting stuttering, and sure enough, I see in the chat window some info about something that sold.

So I'm going to look at the ESOUI forums and see if there's a solution.

So, no sense on wasting money on a CPU right now.

sshogrin · June 20

SirCyanideRose wrote: »

Been paying closer attention to this, and I know for a fact its an issue with the addon. Not sure if its' MM, or TTC, or whatever guild trader addon I have, but it literally only happens when this addon is doing something. Normally, its right after I sign in which I'm used to, then some time later, while I'm just playing along. All of a sudden I start getting stuttering, and sure enough, I see in the chat window some info about something that sold.

So I'm going to look at the ESOUI forums and see if there's a solution.

So, no sense on wasting money on a CPU right now.

I would say it's TTC that's doing it then. I don't run MM.
My "issue" with pointing to TTC is that I started having these issues as soon as Update 46 dropped, and TTC wasn't updated. I didn't have that issue before Update 46, and I've ran the game without any addons (I took the addon folder out of the Live folder) and didn't see a real difference other than character load times, which is expected.

moo_2021 · June 21

You can see https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/4086vs4085 they have the same single-core speed.

5800x already have 8 cores. How many are used by ESO and addons? Definitely not 8. So it means the addons can't scale up to the numbers of cores.

I don't think any CPU on market could solve the issue, since single core speed barely improves a few percentage each year. The addons probably need some code optimizations and/or do less tasks in each iteration to reduce impact on players.

madman65 · June 29

sshogrin wrote: »

SirCyanideRose wrote: »

Been paying closer attention to this, and I know for a fact its an issue with the addon. Not sure if its' MM, or TTC, or whatever guild trader addon I have, but it literally only happens when this addon is doing something. Normally, its right after I sign in which I'm used to, then some time later, while I'm just playing along. All of a sudden I start getting stuttering, and sure enough, I see in the chat window some info about something that sold.

So I'm going to look at the ESOUI forums and see if there's a solution.

So, no sense on wasting money on a CPU right now.

I would say it's TTC that's doing it then. I don't run MM.
My "issue" with pointing to TTC is that I started having these issues as soon as Update 46 dropped, and TTC wasn't updated. I didn't have that issue before Update 46, and I've ran the game without any addons (I took the addon folder out of the Live folder) and didn't see a real difference other than character load times, which is expected.

I ran MM and it`s much worse than TTC, I am running TTC and so far very little lag/stutter at times. At times I had to stay in the same spot when entering the game and just stand there, It took about 3-5 minutes depending on how long I was away from the game previous game playing.

valenwood_vegan · June 29

MM has definitely caused this issue for me, for a minute at login and also sometimes while playing, when it starts to process sales events.

There's also a bug right now where libhistorie (which is a dependency of mm and some other addons) can encounter an invalid timestamp when retrieving events from guild history, and then it seems to sometimes get stuck and causes a major fps drop until I reload the ui.

I highly doubt that a cpu upgrade would make a substantial difference with such issues - I've upgraded a couple times in the past since I started playing and it didn't seem to make a difference with the addon stuttering.

I've gotten to where my workaround is that I have one designated character that I use for trading, and only enable my trading addons on that one character so they don't interfere with any actual gameplay.

exiars10 · June 30

moo_2021 wrote: »

You can see https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X/4086vs4085 they have the same single-core speed.

5800x already have 8 cores. How many are used by ESO and addons? Definitely not 8. So it means the addons can't scale up to the numbers of cores.

I don't think any CPU on market could solve the issue, since single core speed barely improves a few percentage each year. The addons probably need some code optimizations and/or do less tasks in each iteration to reduce impact on players.

For forum guests and ESO players - do not go on userbenchmark, and don't use it for anything.
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