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Overhead nameplates would be a good option
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Has anyone at Zeni said, yay or nay, about optional overhead nameplates yet in their talk of coming tweaks?
I think they'd be great for making this game feel less anonymous at times, as long as they're strictly optional. Anyone else agree?
Edited by daneyulebub17_ESO on May 15, 2014 12:22PM I think they'd be great for making this game feel less anonymous at times, as long as they're strictly optional. Anyone else agree?
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DJ_Pandatripp✭✭✭They had them in early beta. Looks bad, I rather like the game with no nameplates, makes it look 100% better.Gyra Lothbrok Norb DK
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Chatoyancy✭✭✭Agreed, I would love to have optional nameplates, especially with some additional configurations options like "only show for group members" or "only show for alliance members" and so on.6 -
Morbus2✭✭✭I would like to see "guild" nameplates. I could be standing next to a guildmate and not even know it.
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✭I think the main reason for no nameplates was immersion. After all we don't all walk around with a huge HP Bar and nameplate above out heads do we.
Personally I think nameplates are horrible I hate them almost as much as speech bubble (Thank Jode we don't have those) BUT I guess some people like them. No reason why they couldn't be an option to turn them on if you really wanted I guessHigh Elf Sorcerer VR12 - Destro / Resto Staff
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✭Sadly the 'immersionists' whined nameplates broke their 'immersion' so ZOS decided not to even offer the OPTION.
Of course those same immersionists are now among those screaming about bots .. with the huge irony that the lack of nameplates makes reporting them a LOT more tedious so many players don't bother.Edited by KerinKor on May 15, 2014 7:23AM10 -
netsike✭✭✭As everyone said 100 time already, it's supposed to be the player's decision to turn on the nameplates. For me would be enough to see guildies and friends, cause it will always be like I'm running between stangers all the time.5 -
Swampster✭✭✭I think the main reason for no nameplates was immersion. After all we don't all walk around with a huge HP Bar and nameplate above out heads do we.
Nope we don't but then we're not all inch high bunches of pixels all wearing the same gear, that look almost identical anywhere other than the character creator..
Can't see what the problem with having an optional toggle is.. or even allowing it through the addon API so we can add it if we want to.
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✭Yeap , i support this idea.
Apparently the devs began to take notice of this , in theory they are already working on the chat bubbles option , which is great.
I hope soon after they also work on the nameplate option.I think the main reason for no nameplates was immersion. After all we don't all walk around with a huge HP Bar and nameplate above out heads do we.
To be fair , the game gives the option to add said health bars already, i have mine turned ON 99% of the time, I only take them off for ss. (which is really funny , cause i use that hotkey to turn the hud off , but it doesnt remove ONLY the health bars :P ,so i need to get them off manually each time)
So i do hope they begin to give more options when it comes to immersion , this is a MMO in the end of the day , while i loved the ES games since morrowind , im not playing this like i do a single player ES at all.Edited by Nox_Aeterna on May 15, 2014 8:34AM"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Seroczynski✭✭✭And another one of these thread, can't have enough of them :-)
Personally I am against such nameplates, but it wouldn't bother me if they were optional.“To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.” ― Homer J. Simpson3 -
Uviryth✭✭✭✭✭Nameplates are btw not an optional thing to release in the future, in my opinion they are mandatory. Like one month ago.
Without them we might as well play a singleplayergame, because the other players are only shadows floating around near you. Most of the times I dont even realize the player next to me.7 -
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I don't feel the need to identify everyone around me. I know how my buddies look like and have no real trouble to identify them, but that might also have to do with voice communication.Nameplates are btw not an optional thing to release in the future, in my opinion they are mandatory. Like one month ago.
Without them we might as well play a singleplayergame, because the other players are only shadows floating around near you. Most of the times I dont even realize the player next to me.
Like I said in one of the several threads on the same subject, when you go outside in real life nobody is wearing a name tag. I don't see why that should be required in the virtual world.
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Pewpie✭✭✭Would be fun with some anonymousity.... or however it is spelled.
Until you properly /introduce yourself to the surrounding, no one knows your name
Name plates could pop up when you introduce yourself (if people have it toggled on to see them).
Or just make it so you have option to show nameplates of group or friends only. Not every random Joe running past you in the city.
Edited by Pewpie on May 15, 2014 11:22AM1 -
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Please explain. I would love to hear your rationale for why I should be forced to not be able to use nameplates.Please LOL my comments. I'm an aspiring comedian.3 -
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✭The most rabid anti-name plate people seem to think it would offer an advantage to those who choose to turn them on over those who don't in PVP and raids. So they'd in effect HAVE to turn them on to compete on a level playing field. So...for them (they say) it becomes NOT an option.
I can see what they're saying, slightly, but there are many things like that already--fancy mice, huge screens, voice chat, faster internet connections. Everyone has choices to make that give them more or less ability to play with some perceived advantage. That arguable "advantage" affects too few people in too small a way, in my opinion to deprive everyone of an optional nameplate feature.This message confirms that you have successfully cancelled your subscription to The Elder Scrolls Online. You will no longer be charged for a subscription on a recurring basis, and your access to the game will expire at the end of your current subscription cycle.
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Because people like think you others shouldn't optionally have what you don't want.
Yeah, typical forum attitude these days.
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What lag? If your PC couldn't handle it then you could turn off the OPTION!leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »Nameplate = lag + confusion + no vision5 -
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✭leandro.800ub17_ESO wrote: »Nameplate = lag + confusion + no vision
Because you'd be looking over my shoulder?
Cuz, you know, on YOUR computer you'd be able to just, you know...turn them off.
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Swampster✭✭✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »The most rabid anti-name plate people seem to think it would offer an advantage to those who choose to turn them on over those who don't in PVP and raids. So they'd in effect HAVE to turn them on to compete on a level playing field. So...for them (they say) it becomes NOT an option.
How does that work exactly? I've seen the argument it makes people visible when they're hiding in bushes etc used by some halfwit PVP'ers... they're forgetting that we can already whack a ruddy great health bar over their heads anyway!
As for raiding wtf? Do the NPC's get meaner due to nameplates or something? And anyway.. why does it matter that my my PVE guild is doing better in raids than theirs?
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Well this wouldn't be the first MMO to pander to the minorities of PVP and raids and sat FU to everyone else but I'm not sure I'm buying this.daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »The most rabid anti-name plate people seem to think it would offer an advantage to those who choose to turn them on over those who don't in PVP and raids. So they'd in effect HAVE to turn them on to compete on a level playing field. So...for them (they say) it becomes NOT an option.
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✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »The most rabid anti-name plate people seem to think it would offer an advantage to those who choose to turn them on over those who don't in PVP and raids. So they'd in effect HAVE to turn them on to compete on a level playing field. So...for them (they say) it becomes NOT an option.
How does that work exactly? I've seen the argument it makes people visible when they're hiding in bushes etc used by some halfwit PVP'ers... they're forgetting that we can already whack a ruddy great health bar over their heads anyway!
As for raiding wtf? Do the NPC's get meaner due to nameplates or something? And anyway.. why does it matter that my my PVE guild is doing better in raids than theirs?
Something about the Raid leader calling people by name, or telling people to go stand by "so & so" and the people who are all immersed wouldn't know what he's talking about.
For PvP, easier to spot enemies with 'em on as opposed to off I think. And probably the same thing as with raids, when grouped. "Everyone target "X"" would cause the people without tags up to run in circles firing randomly I guess.
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✭DJ_Pandatripp wrote: »They had them in early beta. Looks bad, I rather like the game with no nameplates, makes it look 100% better.
Considering other games do them and they don't look bad, I think Zeni could figure it out.
Better than abandoning the whole idea because somebody in the beta didn't pick the right font, type size or know how to properly anti-alias.This message confirms that you have successfully cancelled your subscription to The Elder Scrolls Online. You will no longer be charged for a subscription on a recurring basis, and your access to the game will expire at the end of your current subscription cycle.
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Shillen✭✭✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »DJ_Pandatripp wrote: »They had them in early beta. Looks bad, I rather like the game with no nameplates, makes it look 100% better.
Considering other games do them and they don't look bad, I think Zeni could figure it out.
Better than abandoning the whole idea because somebody in the beta didn't pick the right font, type size or know how to properly anti-alias.
Yep, it sounds like they just put in a horrible implementation of them and that's why people didn't like them. It's not the nameplates they don't like, it's the way ZoS implemented them.
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Swampster✭✭✭daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »Something about the Raid leader calling people by name, or telling people to go stand by "so & so" and the people who are all immersed wouldn't know what he's talking about.
If they're all that far up their own immersive backsides they can just gtfo of my guild and find someone else to raid with if they're really that bothered about 'immersion'.daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »For PvP, easier to spot enemies with 'em on as opposed to off I think.
Like I said, I've seen this dumb argument used.. and yes I do mean dumb! Considering I can put a huge great health bar above them anyway whether they like it or not kind of makes the whole argument a moot point!daneyulebub17_ESO wrote: »And probably the same thing as with raids, when grouped. "Everyone target "X"" would cause the people without tags up to run in circles firing randomly I guess.
I'm assuming you mean PVP raids!?.. in which case this is the only argument I've heard that makes any kind of sense. However, for the few people that are 'so up in arms' about the fact their opposition might not have to move their mouse around a few players to find their target in PVP, all the rest be damned and we can do without?.. That's frankly some of the stupidest thinking I've heard!
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Even if you turn off its the server load of the ones that turn it on that affect all not the PC1
