Any plans to update to DLSS 4?

Rockett · January 22

With the new nvidia cards announced and the recent LAN 50 event giving away a mount for nvidia GPU owners. Will this game finally be receiving an update to DLSS?

An FSR update would also be amazing.

ZOS_GregoryV · January 22

Greetings,

We have moved this thread to a more fitting category.

Regards,
-Greg-

essi2 · January 24

An official update to DLSS v310.1(DLSS4) would be good since it is a very big improvement over the DLSS version ESO ships with. ESO also seems to become very unstable when you manually update to 3.8 or v310(every DLSS version up to and including 3.7.2 seems to work fine), presumably there is some sort of mismatch maybe over how ESO handles Presets.

Rockett · January 24

essi2 wrote: »

An official update to DLSS v310.1(DLSS4) would be good since it is a very big improvement over the DLSS version ESO ships with. ESO also seems to become very unstable when you manually update to 3.8 or v310(every DLSS version up to and including 3.7.2 seems to work fine), presumably there is some sort of mismatch maybe over how ESO handles Presets.

What kind of instability are you experiencing with v310.1.0.0?

I swapped to it an hour ago for ESO and set the preset to J in nvidia profile inspector, DLSS seems to bug out with harvest map (addon) 3d pins, but DLAA seems to work normally so far for me.

I just recently learnt about the update to the nvidia app coming on the 30th allowing you to override the games DLSS version, I am hopeful

essi2 · January 24

Rockett wrote: »

essi2 wrote: »

An official update to DLSS v310.1(DLSS4) would be good since it is a very big improvement over the DLSS version ESO ships with. ESO also seems to become very unstable when you manually update to 3.8 or v310(every DLSS version up to and including 3.7.2 seems to work fine), presumably there is some sort of mismatch maybe over how ESO handles Presets.

What kind of instability are you experiencing with v310.1.0.0?

I swapped to it an hour ago for ESO and set the preset to J in nvidia profile inspector, DLSS seems to bug out with harvest map (addon) 3d pins, but DLAA seems to work normally so far for me.

I just recently learnt about the update to the nvidia app coming on the 30th allowing you to override the games DLSS version, I am hopeful

It would just straight up CTD when switching to DLSS on 3.8.x.x and v310.1.

Swapping to Preset G(J) seems to have solved the CTD with v310.1.

DLAA seems to work fine on every version set to Default, although I don't know what DLSSTweaks mean by Default since DLSS has 2 defaults; Game Default and DLSS Default.

How are you seeing the Presets in Inspector?
I'm stupid, I found the preset option in Inspector, it is still called G there aswell I see, so probably doesn't matter if you use DLSSTweaks, SpecialK or NV Inspector

essi2 · January 24

From what I gathered from PC Gamer's video, the driver override for DLSS version/Preset in the NVapp might not support every game, but I guess we'll find out on the 30th

Larira · January 24

Heya, you can force Preset J globally with the Nvidia Profile Inspector.

You will also need this xml-file:
https://www.file-upload.net/download-15446826/CustomSettingNames.xml.html

Just copy it into the Inspector directory and then you can choose Preset J.

Cheers

essi2 · January 24

Now I'm wondering if Preset G does fallback to Preset J or if it is just a placebo.

Eitherway, running ESO with v310.1 Preset J works.

Does the new Transformer model do anything for DLAA or does it just improve the scaler?

Larira · January 24

The new model improves motion clarity, temporal stability and sharpness. There is also less ghosting. I like it very much. It would be nice if it would be out-of-the-box in the game.

Maybe i will make some screenshots tomorrow.

Cheers

essi2 · January 25

Larira wrote: »

The new model improves motion clarity, temporal stability and sharpness. There is also less ghosting. I like it very much. It would be nice if it would be out-of-the-box in the game.

Maybe i will make some screenshots tomorrow.

Cheers

Can't say I've had any of those problems with DLAA is the thing, which makes sense since it doesn't do any scaling.

Edit1; Looking at DLAA in Space Marine 2, you are right, DLAA has image stability issues aswell. Just never noticed in ESO.

A DLAA comparison would be interesting.

essi2 · January 25

I forgot the debug/DLSS indicator was a thing, also while not directly applicable to ESO, for any SK users DLSS Default will default to Preset J in v310.1 without any other user input.

Larira · January 28

OK, i have made a small comparison between DLSS 2 and DLSS 4 Preset J.

https://imgsli.com/MzQzMjAx

Cheers

essi2 · January 29

Larira wrote: »

OK, i have made a small comparison between DLSS 2 and DLSS 4 Preset J.

https://imgsli.com/MzQzMjAx

Cheers

The DLSS2 image probably has forced sharpening on(I think the DLSS2 default is 0,33~0,5), so at a glance DLSS2 looks "better" and DLSS4 alot more blurry(in comparison).

Hopefully they update FSR to FSR3.1+ and DLSS to 3.5+ and add a sharpening slider.

I'd also like to see a manual resolution scale slider.

XeSS1.3+ would also be nice to have.

@ZOS_Kevin

Larira · January 29

I have made 2 screenshots while moving. Unfortunately, i cannot get the exact same position. But the differences are still very visible:

https://imgsli.com/MzQzNDQz

With the old DLSS implementation you can clearly see, that the edges on the houses are very jaggy. And there is a sort of oil painting smearing effect. With DLSS 4 both disappears.

Cheers

essi2 · January 29

Lining things up for comparisons is hard, I know that pain all to well.

Cheers for doing it though

Larira · January 30

There is a new DLSS DLL with an new preset called Preset K. But i find it a little bit worse than Preset J. Preset J has a better temporal stability, IMHO.

Here is a description how to get it:
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-572-16-driver.455207/page-10#post-6303660

Cheers

Rockett · January 31

Sad to see no DLSS override support

Guess we will have to continue to do it manually

Rockett · January 31

Looks like there is an option to override the whitelist so you can do it through the nvidia app

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ie7l1u/psa_how_to_enable_dlss_overrides_in_nvidia_app_on/

Slash8915 · February 3

Other than looks, are there any performance differences between the native DLSS & DLSS 4 in ESO?

I use DLAA on my desktop, and DLSS: Quality on my laptop.

Attorneyatlawl · March 11

Curious on this too. I'm hesitant to just use the override in case it triggers eso's anticheat.

lpoki · April 7

u can use dlss swapper.
https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

AlexanderDeLarge · April 10

Echoing the sentiment in this thread, ZOS should really update the DLSS version from 2.2 to 4. My DLAA was hazy by default, used the DLSS swapper tool to switch to the latest version and it's a night and day difference.

Hopefully DLSS swapper doesn't get me banned in this game. Not sure why it would, I'm using signed DLL files provided by Nvidia. Not sure why they wouldn't at least whitelist it in the Nvidia app. It's harmless.

Attorneyatlawl · April 11

Yeah, that's something I'm worried about too... It's a huge visual difference and should just be updated by default.

Demalb16_ESO · April 18

Is there a guide that shows how to override the dlss 2 ti put the version 4?
this:

Rockett wrote: »

Looks like there is an option to override the whitelist so you can do it through the nvidia app

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ie7l1u/psa_how_to_enable_dlss_overrides_in_nvidia_app_on/

doesn't work for me and I don't know how to do it manually

lpoki · May 1

use dlss swapper.
https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

Attorneyatlawl · June 3

Up, gather NV profile inspector can enable the Nvidia app to override it, but clarification on if this is OK would be much appreciated.

@ZOS_Kevin, @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom