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Is it too soon to pronounce Scribing dead?

  • Red_Feather
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    I definitely will continue to use scribed skills to fill in gaps in my build. And more scripts could always be added to keep players doing all those dailies!
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    no, too many scribed skills are outright better than any other options avilable to classes or are really the best way to do certain abilties.

    Throw shield is arguably the best taunt in the game, able to add in the benefits of running more than one weapon set with a ranged taunt.

    elemental explosion can be setup as AOE version of elemental sus, making it amazing for trash pulls

    Leashing soul and Healing soul have better utility than DK chain or Templar BoL.

    Banner is always gonna be a BIS for dps due to its buffs

    Warding Contingency is stronger than anything in the class trees and has more utility even when your using it on more than 6 players. not to mention its benefit as a pure buffing skill for multiple buffs with mages guild passives.

    Heroic Torch ult gen is unique, affects the team, and already has a universal alternative in Vampire trees.


    its my opinion that subclassing will have no real effect on scribing.
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • MrCaptainPants
    I was excited for scribing until it came out and the barrier to entry was more than I felt like messing around with. All the quests, then collecting all the different components, and THEN dealing with the low drop rate of luminous inks (please spare me your stories about how luminous inks just rained down from the skies for *your* characters, I'm happy for you, but I really don't care, lol).

    All the hurdles just killed the fun for me. Yes, I expected to do *some* work to access the system, but not all that. I just chose not to engage with the whole thing. 🤷‍♂️
  • Vonnegut2506
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    I really like the looks of some of the scribed skills like Trample and Vault (once they fixed it so I couldn't backflip off ledges anymore), but they are fairly inferior for most DPS classes. I'm not sure why they are so averse to making them more equivalent. For example, why in the Sam Hill do scribing major buffs only last 10 seconds when the class buffs all last at least 20, and in the DK's case over one minute. How is a 20s scribed major buff game breaking?
  • kind_hero
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    Scribed abilities for Class skill lines would be a good start. Of course, the Werewolf skill line has no Scribing abilities yet, so werewolves still can't use the system yet.

    Most likely they intended the system for class skill lines, and they wanted something generic in the beginning to familiarize the players with. I am sure the devs will add abilities with new content, probably themed abilities.
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  • Major_Mangle
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    "Stronger stuff for scribing...."

    Let's not buff one of the biggest contributing factors to powercreep this game has ever seen.....
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  • Renato90085
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    they are sup role bis..
    but if you are rp player they really unimportant
  • agelonestar
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    I’m not sure why you think that Scribing will be dead?

    The aim of subclassing is to drop one (maybe more) of your Class skill lines in favour of another. You’re still going to have three Class still lines, just like today.

    Aside from the further ability to customise your character, this doesn’t change much for Scribing.
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  • Elsonso
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    Scribing has never been a thing for me. I did collect everything on all my characters but not to scribe with. I just like collecting things. And I did finally scribe one skill just to use for endeavors that say defeat so many enemies using scribed skills. But Scribing was never alive for me in the first place.

    I get a pain just thinking about having to unlock Scribing. :smile: I love quests, and will often repeat them, and I consider the Scribing unlock to be prominent among the quests that I never want to see again. It is a very group of painful, and hopefully forgettable, quests.

    The developer intentions to create busy work are too evident and it comes off as low effort and repetitive in terms of quest design and story. It was like they had a minimum player effort level to get to Scribing dictated by game design decisions, but not enough time to do all of it, so they threw in a bunch of unrelated stuff and tried to make it related. In the end, it felt sort of 'Manus Dei', the Hand of the Game Developer. It felt like I was being tasked to do this by some game developer.

    I have never repeated it on any other character or account.

    In the end, I never needed to. Mostly, I have forgotten about it. There was nothing driving me to use it, and to be honest, I'm not even sure I remember how. I bank the scribing related things, mainly because I am not sure what I can consume, and on which character, what I need to save, and what I can throw away.

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  • gc0018
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    I will say even the weapon skill line will be dead with subclass. You will always find a better option.
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  • Castagere
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    It was fun for a while, but I'm not even using them anymore, just my class and weapon skills. It just seems like another thing to grind in this game.
    Edited by Castagere on April 14, 2025 3:02AM
  • Lystrad
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    but if you are rp player they really unimportant

    Hard disagree here. If your class fantasy is just an elder scrolls mage, whether it's any flavor of destruction, or restoration, then alot of scribing abilities like wield soul and soul burst can be pretty critical to reinforcing your thematically focused character build, especially when class abilities could potentially erode it. Example, all of the players who rolled warden to be a frost mage and don't want the animals or plants. Or the people who rolled dragonknight for fire, but want to be a ranged fire mage and don't care about the dragon stuff.
    Edited by Lystrad on April 14, 2025 4:13AM
  • Imperial_Archmage
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    Oh I don’t think it’s too soon at all, in fact it was pretty much DoA and little more than a Chapter gimmick. They’ve clearly completely abandoned it
    Not at all, they've been gradually adding more elements and affixes, Scribing has had a huge impact on PvP, and discovering the Banner Arcanist DD has me actually trying PvE again.

    What have they been adding to Scribing besides the Banner thing? And the system has been out for almost a year now. They haven’t iterated on it at all even though they promised they would and that what was released initially was just the start.
  • KekwLord3000
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    Tell me you have no idea about what you talking about without telling me you don't know what you are talking about.
    Scribing has tons of *** that neither class has access to so can't be used in the sub class system, like access to Maj/Min heroism, different debuffs that are much easier to proc using scribing than actual skills.
  • Ragnarok0130
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    darvaria wrote: »
    All these new abilities and NO extra room on skill bar. I went back to mostly playing an oaken Warden.

    Too many options ... when there are already more than enough skills to fill bars. An extra skill slot for scribing AND one for subclassing might peak my interest. Rn, I have enough skills.

    Hmmm ... is scribing dead? I only use for completing endeavors. I had one skill (repelling explosion) for ball groups but it seems worthless now ... somehow less effective so I don't bother. Easier to just move away.

    We won't get additional bar space since this game incorporates controller UIs. There are DPS builds I've seen incorporating scribing and I see banner bearer in almost every trial group I run with so it's being used. I even see scribing referenced in healers haven; it's just not on any of our standard skill slot spots. I don't think your typical overland player has much use for scribing when most of them don't see to use many skills overall during fights.
  • Melivar
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    I think it will still have its usefulness and can still be used to fix gaps in builds or add some spice particularly in overland content.

    I have almost all the things for it but have not really played around with the skills outside of my tank.
  • old_scopie1945
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    I like scribing and this is my main worry about the subclass system, it will make scribing obsolete. As said, you only have so many slots, especially when I use primarily one bar builds. (age restrictions, you know)
  • NoSoup
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    They probably just need to introduce a scribe set that reduces either the cool down or cost of scribed skills based on the number of scribed skills slotted to make it relevant again in a niche way.
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  • ragnarok6644b14_ESO
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    I love Scribing and use it - ironically for RP reasons. Sometimes if, between a scribed skill and a different skill, most things are equal, then I will use the scribed skill for the finer control over what it does, including the looks.
  • LalMirchi
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    For me Scribing is fun and far fram dead. Perhaps the OP wishes it to die because they do not like it?
  • Destai
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    I like scribing, but it never really took off for me. I mainly used it for niche builds for BRP and IA, neither of which I do terribly often. The original was use-case of filling the gaps with builds was solid, but subclassing will be a better option because the skills are stronger. Like, I wanted a DK to have a burst heal, so I used scribing to fill that gap. Now, I'll just spec into Templar and get more passives.
  • GloatingSwine
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    no, too many scribed skills are outright better than any other options avilable to classes or are really the best way to do certain abilties.

    Throw shield is arguably the best taunt in the game, able to add in the benefits of running more than one weapon set with a ranged taunt.

    Shield Throw remains competitive I think but now every character can have Runic Sunder meaning 6% less damage taken and 2200 armour stolen plus a synergy for the team which might well be more valuable than the heal you can script in.
  • Finedaible
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    I have found more uses for Scribing in PvP so far. Less uses for PvE, but there is a lot of potential there if they release skills/grimoires that aren't cumbersome to add to a rotation.
  • icefyer_ESO
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    sarahthes wrote: »
    With Subclassing, I think its safe to say that Scribing's days are numbered. There are only so many slots on a bar. There are only so many Scribed skills that were useful to begin with, but now that you can pick and choose from other classes, why Scribe when you can slot something far more powerful from another class?

    Scribing is either going to have to come up with stronger options or its dead.

    Everyone's gonna be an arc base class or a necro base class for banner. Banner will still get used (unless they nerf it).

    I never got scribing, since I'm only recently returning to the game after the past...3-4 expansions away. Why is banner better for arc or necro?
  • Ragnarok0130
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    Finedaible wrote: »
    I have found more uses for Scribing in PvP so far. Less uses for PvE, but there is a lot of potential there if they release skills/grimoires that aren't cumbersome to add to a rotation.

    Every trial I’m in has at least 2-3 DPS running banner bearer so it has uses in PVE. In one of the builds I’m running on a DPS toon I’m using both Ulfsild’s contingency and banner bearer.
  • CahirMawrDyffryn
    I think it's gonna be even more viable now that you can also use skills that snyergize with other classes, no? Only ever used travelling knife though so I can't really tell.
  • El_Borracho
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    LalMirchi wrote: »
    For me Scribing is fun and far fram dead. Perhaps the OP wishes it to die because they do not like it?

    I use Scribing in PVP, which you would have known if you read my response. I know, tough code to crack
  • Savos_Saren
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    Nah. I still have need for certain Scribing skills. I'll still use the Shield Throw ability for characters without a spammable. In PVP- it gives me the option to have a tailored ranged attack for characters that are limited in range. Also, it's still a pretty good taunt in dungeons.
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  • Estin
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    I never used scribing outside PvP, but I'm kind of disappointed it's not being invested more into over subclassing. I've been running a lot of vet dungeons on my magblade lately, and I've been wanting a magic cleave spammable for trash fights. Something like Silver Shards. My first thought was to use traveling knife, but magic damage and multi target are both focus scripts. I then tried torchbearer, but everything, even if it's considered magic damage, only costs stamina. So I'm pretty much left with Sap Essence or Soul Burst which lets me make Power Extraction except have it cost magicka.
  • LukosCreyden
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    I hope not. I really like scribing. Wield Soul, Soul Burst and Contingency are favourites of mine.
    Struggling to find a new class to call home.Please send help.
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