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To AD in Blackreach

Cuwen
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I'm wondering if we AD should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?
  • SeaGtGruff
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    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD DC should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC AD just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD EP should sit out this campaign or the next. EP AD and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    Fixed it for ya!

    In other words, each alliance feels like the other two are constantly working together against them. :)
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • Cuwen
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    This has been happening for the past 2 campaigns. It's ridiculous. They split the emp ring and then work together to take anything we AD take. And I've literally seen DC with EP.8hdm0yvre09e.png

  • Cuwen
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD DC should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC AD just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD EP should sit out this campaign or the next. EP AD and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    Fixed it for ya!

    In other words, each alliance feels like the other two are constantly working together against them. :)

    Not in this case, which is why I have the issue. Past 2 campaigns, EP and DC fight AD, split the emp ring, and then don't fight each other, just anything AD takes back.
  • JobooAGS
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    Cuwen wrote: »
    This has been happening for the past 2 campaigns. It's ridiculous. They split the emp ring and then work together to take anything we AD take. And I've literally seen DC with EP.8hdm0yvre09e.png

    Well to be fair in this screenshot, AD does have their scrolls.
  • Avran_Sylt
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD DC should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC AD just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD EP should sit out this campaign or the next. EP AD and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    Fixed it for ya!

    In other words, each alliance feels like the other two are constantly working together against them. :)

    Guess who builds a stealth archer.

    Crit focused people, literally the description of the Bosmer. And Aldmeri Dominion for PvE generalists (Kahjiiit).

    Try playing AD for a bit. Being the underdog is fun. unless you're a PvP stat-chaser. (from an overall meta-game PvP perspective).

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    That being said, Blackreach isn't a "real" campaign.
  • YandereGirlfriend
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    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    This is pretty prime for a "First time, eh?" meme.

    This was daily life for DC and EP on PC-NA in both Ravenwatch and Blackreach for like 3 years prior to the last six months.

    A certain guild took great pride in faction-stacking down anything that moved that wasn't AD.
  • Heren
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    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    First, the names of the different campaigns are all the same on PC EU, PC NA, Xbox EU, etc. You get the idea. So, just talking about Blackreach without additional clarification make it a bit difficult to advise you.

    Second, well, the state of the pvp population in ESO being what it is, i'd say, don't expect things to really change. If you're not lvl 50 and just here to get a taste of pvp, maybe wait until you hit 50 ( and there's some new campaign coming soon, might be interesting to go there if you're a fresh 50 ). Things might be a bit better on the larger campaigns ( can't remember the exact names, you will notice them by the population ).
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    Yeah there unfortunately just isn't the day-to-day pvp population to fill all the campaigns, particularly outside of weekends and primetime... making it very easy for one or two guilds, for example, to pop into an empty one and unbalance things. Unlikely to change much unless zos is able to revitalize pvp and increase the population.
  • Turtle_Bot
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    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    This is pretty prime for a "First time, eh?" meme.

    This was daily life for DC and EP on PC-NA in both Ravenwatch and Blackreach for like 3 years prior to the last six months.

    A certain guild took great pride in faction-stacking down anything that moved that wasn't AD.

    2-3 years ago it was AD doing this on PC EU (GH), the over the past 2-3 years it's primarily been EP doing this. This specific campaign it seems those guilds/players have switched to DC though.

    As for OP's screenshot, AD does have 1 each of both EP's and DC's scrolls and probably also still has Emp, so it's only natural for the other 2 alliances to hit AD at the same time to try and get their scrolls back and dethrone the emperor. It happens to all 3 alliances anytime they have other alliances scrolls or emp (or even just push too much and get really close to emp).

    What would really be worth complaining about would be if DC had all 6 scrolls + emp and EP was pushing AD triangle keeps from crops/drake while completely ignoring chal/brk/sej (like what AD was doing to DC last few campaigns on PC EU, GH where EP had emp + all 6 scrolls yet AD always pushed from carmala straight to rayles or glade (completely ignoring roe/nikel/alessia that were still red), completely preventing DC from getting out onto the map to help push back EP). That would truly be worth complaining about compared to what is shown in the screenshot posted.
  • Melivar
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    Based on the picture provided AD gated both EP and DC earlier in the day and has all the scrolls so of course both factions are going to come for them first before moving on to taking the ring.

    Part Time AD from Blackreach by the way
    Edited by Melivar on March 21, 2025 7:07PM
  • Cuwen
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    JobooAGS wrote: »
    Cuwen wrote: »
    This has been happening for the past 2 campaigns. It's ridiculous. They split the emp ring and then work together to take anything we AD take. And I've literally seen DC with EP.8hdm0yvre09e.png

    Well to be fair in this screenshot, AD does have their scrolls.

    And what's the reason for this?

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    Edited by Cuwen on April 6, 2025 3:30AM
  • Cuwen
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    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    Cuwen wrote: »
    I'm wondering if we AD should sit out this campaign or the next. EP and DC just group up and attack us no matter what, never attacking each other until they've pushed us back to the gate. So, why don't we bow out for now so they finally have to attack each other?

    This is pretty prime for a "First time, eh?" meme.

    This was daily life for DC and EP on PC-NA in both Ravenwatch and Blackreach for like 3 years prior to the last six months.

    A certain guild took great pride in faction-stacking down anything that moved that wasn't AD.

    2-3 years ago it was AD doing this on PC EU (GH), the over the past 2-3 years it's primarily been EP doing this. This specific campaign it seems those guilds/players have switched to DC though.

    As for OP's screenshot, AD does have 1 each of both EP's and DC's scrolls and probably also still has Emp, so it's only natural for the other 2 alliances to hit AD at the same time to try and get their scrolls back and dethrone the emperor. It happens to all 3 alliances anytime they have other alliances scrolls or emp (or even just push too much and get really close to emp).

    What would really be worth complaining about would be if DC had all 6 scrolls + emp and EP was pushing AD triangle keeps from crops/drake while completely ignoring chal/brk/sej (like what AD was doing to DC last few campaigns on PC EU, GH where EP had emp + all 6 scrolls yet AD always pushed from carmala straight to rayles or glade (completely ignoring roe/nikel/alessia that were still red), completely preventing DC from getting out onto the map to help push back EP). That would truly be worth complaining about compared to what is shown in the screenshot posted.

    Like this? DC have emp and all scrolls. And DC is still pushing us down while EP takes our left keep and outposts. They don't even attempt an emp ring keep. And EP were running into fare with DC to help take it from us. I would like to know why EP and DC are doing this. What's their beef? (This is in PC, NA Blackreach.)
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