Sarannah wrote: »

Navaac223 wrote: »

So yeah, good luck killing anyone under those circumstances.. The most I've gotten was 2 kills in a 1v5, but it was on nb (pretty much the best class because it's the one that gets the closest to having burst, while having actually decent sustain), the players I killed seemed barely sentient and I got killed shortly after because any player who knows how to use a keyboard will not be killable with the low damage we have

Seriously, that should be the absolute maximum! In my opinion, 1vsX should never have been possible. The vengeance campaign gave you a fair playing field, even being able to kill 2 of the 5 should make you feel good about your PvP skills. But that should basically be the limit of what is possible.

Personally I am not a PvPer, but did get into some 1 vs 2 fights myself, which I still won. This is probably mostly due to me being used to only using class skills already on my PvP char, while the other players had to get used to this still.

When this campaign would last longer(indefinitely), more players would get used to what skills are available, and get better with those. Fights would evolve better, like how has already happened with the normal Cyrodiil campaigns.

Bro, says who? Who makes you the authority on dictating what should be possible in this game? If I am skilled enough, why should I be handicapped?

Xzysts wrote: »

Sarannah wrote: »

Navaac223 wrote: »

So yeah, good luck killing anyone under those circumstances.. The most I've gotten was 2 kills in a 1v5, but it was on nb (pretty much the best class because it's the one that gets the closest to having burst, while having actually decent sustain), the players I killed seemed barely sentient and I got killed shortly after because any player who knows how to use a keyboard will not be killable with the low damage we have

Seriously, that should be the absolute maximum! In my opinion, 1vsX should never have been possible. The vengeance campaign gave you a fair playing field, even being able to kill 2 of the 5 should make you feel good about your PvP skills. But that should basically be the limit of what is possible.

Personally I am not a PvPer, but did get into some 1 vs 2 fights myself, which I still won. This is probably mostly due to me being used to only using class skills already on my PvP char, while the other players had to get used to this still.

When this campaign would last longer(indefinitely), more players would get used to what skills are available, and get better with those. Fights would evolve better, like how has already happened with the normal Cyrodiil campaigns.

Bro, says who? Who makes you the authority on dictating what should be possible in this game? If I am skilled enough, why should I be handicapped?

Just like any other player I am only giving my opinion, while trying to support it with as many facts and observations as I can. I'm assuming it is fair to say we all want ESO's PvP to grow and flourish, including me. As that would be best for the game itself.

Why should you be handicapped when you are skilled enough: PvP needs a fair playing field, or all those left in PvP will be the immortal and unbeatable PvPers. Those would be the only ones, and that would hold PvP back, as has been happening for many years now.
PvP needs a low level of entry, a fair playing field, and just needs to be fun. Vengeance did all of that. And yeah, I have noticed some of the original PvPers do not like this mode. In my opinion these are the players holding PvP back, as they like being unbeatable and immortal while killing other players all day long. Behaviour that chases many players away from PvP, instead of to PvP.

Just to note: I said vengeance would be better for PvP in the longterm and the game itself, so if I had to pick what's best for the game, vengeance would be it. However, ZOS has never stated we needed to choose, and that this is just a test. For all we know we may end up with multiple different types of Cyrodiil campaigns. Including the ones that already existed before vengeance, and just having vengeance as an extra campaign.

PS: Not sure about population and player dropoff, as I'm not sure on what the vengeance population caps are versus the original Cyrodiil campaign's population caps. Only ZOS knows this.