Nope, though I'm mostly AD at heart, I enjoyed faction hopping and bringing in some other classes I don't normally play, and low levels, in addition to my regular characters. Has been a good time.

Without a score who can tell if it is a problem?

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Without a score who can tell if it is a problem?

Malicious trolling has often been cited as one reason it could be a problem independent of the score. There is a daily campaign score, though I'm not sure how many people are invested in it. Some players are still pretty invested in map strats and zone generaling, and would probably be able to tell.

There’s no score, not an argument to get rid of faction locks. If players didn’t like faction locked camps, gray host wouldn’t be the most populated campaign

Adamus wrote: »

If players didn’t like faction locked camps, gray host wouldn’t be the most populated campaign

It is most populated simply because it is where the PvP guilds go. Because there's still a notion of alliance fealty in the core concept of a PvP guild. Though, nothing would keep them from running in Blackreach instead.

As soon as you do away with faction lock, i'm just hopping on the character of the faction with the most people and running the map.

I don’t think it is an issue. The impact of spais is negligible in this environment. The only issue is if someone goes to an opposing side and takes the scroll or something then swaps back to the original side. Even if there is no score, we are all playing like there is.

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Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Without a score who can tell if it is a problem?

Malicious trolling has often been cited as one reason it could be a problem independent of the score. There is a daily campaign score, though I'm not sure how many people are invested in it. Some players are still pretty invested in map strats and zone generaling, and would probably be able to tell.

I'm generally a single faction AvA player who tries to work the map without getting trapped in PVDoor zerging. I would guess, based on others I know, that nobody cares about the faction war during Vengeance, and that they won't care until the dust settles a bit.

I expect people will still care, though. I'll be pretty sad if we ever lose faction lock. BR is so much worse than GH for bad and anti-competitive behaviour, and while anti-faction lock people always say that's strictly down to the dead campaign vibe, the lack of faction lock absolutely makes it worse. If we get the kind of performance where I can main a large populated campaign on high ping, getting faction lock back is something I personally look forward to.

I didn't vote, fwiw, because I don't think it's a question we can even adequately ask or answer right now about Vengeance.

The vengeance campaign not being locked has been a blessing for me.

It has allowed/allowing me to test all classes for this test, not just the few that happen to be on the faction I'm locked to.

That being said, on the topic of faction locks in general, I wouldn't mind a shorter 24 or 48 hour faction lock over the current 30 day lock to address a lot of the common complaints about toxic behaviour (faction hopping for scrolls/hammer, spies, trolling, etc.) that have been many peoples reasons for wanting a faction lock in the first place, while still allowing players more flexibility to play with more of their friends who happen to be on different alliances during a particular campaign.


Also, as @Joy_Division said, the reason it seems like players never switch to the losing faction(s) is because those who do look for harder or outnumbered fights are much fewer in numbers than those who just want the free (PvDoor) ride to end of campaign rewards. This doesn't mean such players don't exist, but it does mean that it is much harder to see it happening on something as simplistic and inaccurate as the in-game population bars in the alliance war menu.

Another reason is that typically in regular PvP, unless players are switching over as a group of say 4 or more, there's no point in switching at all anymore, since by switching to the lower pop factions, you either get literally impossible fights (1v50+) or no fights at all, with no in-between. So by staying on the most populated faction, it's more likely to get those 1v5/2v10 fights that many of these players look for (i.e. hard but not impossible fights), while not having to deal with the 1v50+ that the pop locked faction typically brings as soon as a resource flags anywhere on the map.