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Zos finally found a way to counter Ballgroups/bombers/stuck in combat bug, class balance... etc

I mean, I know that this campaign isn't about all that, but... maybe there are some really good things to be taken from it.

Thoughts?
Edited by ZOS_Hadeostry on March 31, 2025 3:09AM
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  • Erickson9610
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    I've been thoroughly enjoying it. I still like the regular Cyrodiil as well, but this is a nice diversion.
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  • Trier_Sero
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    Really good so far. I think they should make it permanent, bring back other campaigns but keep this one too, then slowly add more skills in.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Trier_Sero wrote: »
    Really good so far. I think they should make it permanent, bring back other campaigns but keep this one too, then slowly add more skills in.

    If they added the other campaigns back it would be dead unfortunately
  • Yasha
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    Who would have thought that fixing Cyrodiil was as simple as eliminating ball groups, bombers, and unkillable tanks ...
  • jle30303
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    Bombers are a legitimate tactic. There is also a fair counter to them - scatter and block.
  • Xarc
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    Yasha wrote: »
    Who would have thought that fixing Cyrodiil was as simple as eliminating ball groups, bombers, and unkillable tanks ...

    ^
    It's not like we've been saying it for years
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  • Askys94
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    I've thoroughly enjoyed this test, although it lacks a bit of variety at the moment with skills.

    With some fleshing out, i think it can become real good.

    Because lets be honest.... the old PVP needs to Crash and burn >:D
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  • MorallyBipolar
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    Askys94 wrote: »
    I've thoroughly enjoyed this test, although it lacks a bit of variety at the moment with skills.

    With some fleshing out, i think it can become real good.

    Because lets be honest.... the old PVP needs to Crash and burn >:D

    No, the old PvP just needs to be given the priority it deserves, not scrapped all together as the casual questing crowd has been asking for since inception. The original version of Cyrodiil was built to be the main end game activity and should be fixed, not flushed.

    ZOS still needs to try limiting shield and heal stacking, and give some attention to the most abusive sets in the game and go from there. Not start over from scratch with an entirely new version of the game.
  • RealLoveBVB
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    Now everyone can zerg again without fearing bombers :D

    But honestly.. to mention bombers as "fix" is really kind of hilarious.

    Bombers were introduced to counter zergs. They didn't need a fix.
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    This might be good ruleset for u50 Cyro/BGs.
  • redlink1979
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    Combat bug fixed is the best feature of Vengeance
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  • MasterSpatula
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    Now everyone can zerg again without fearing bombers :D

    But honestly.. to mention bombers as "fix" is really kind of hilarious.

    Bombers were introduced to counter zergs. They didn't need a fix.

    There were probably 50 bombers attacking people on flags, door repair (stuck in animation and can't react), or at trasitus (in map screen and can't see they're being attacked) for every one bomber who went after a zerg, so yeah, it was a bad solution to a problem that was barely a problem, creating way more problems than it actually solved, all to fix a problem that ACTUALLY didn't need a fix.

    Not that bombers are going anywhere. There's no way ZOS is eliminating them at this point. But it's so, so, so, so, so, so, so nice to play without them for a little while.
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  • Einar_Hrafnarsson
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    I hope so much that this stays for good. I would also love this for Imperial City. I didn't touch ESO for months and no i am playing almost daily again.
  • Xarc
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    the fact we can use only one siege weapon at a time prevents trolling keep
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  • LouisaB75
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    Trier_Sero wrote: »
    Really good so far. I think they should make it permanent, bring back other campaigns but keep this one too, then slowly add more skills in.

    If they added the other campaigns back it would be dead unfortunately

    I think it would be quieter, but I don't think it would be entirely dead. I am seeing a lot of people in Vengeance who have said previously they hated the PvP but are loving this. It seems to be more accessible for those who are new, unskilled, don't have perfect PvP builds, or just don't want to deal with ball groups, unkillable tanks, tower trolls etc.

    I could see people grinding out the gear for their PvP builds in Vengeance before moving on once they are set up to the other campaigns.
  • reazea
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    Askys94 wrote: »
    I've thoroughly enjoyed this test, although it lacks a bit of variety at the moment with skills.

    With some fleshing out, i think it can become real good.

    Because lets be honest.... the old PVP needs to Crash and burn >:D

    No, the old PvP just needs to be given the priority it deserves, not scrapped all together as the casual questing crowd has been asking for since inception. The original version of Cyrodiil was built to be the main end game activity and should be fixed, not flushed.

    ZOS still needs to try limiting shield and heal stacking, and give some attention to the most abusive sets in the game and go from there. Not start over from scratch with an entirely new version of the game.

    So much this^
  • kargen27
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    I hope so much that this stays for good. I would also love this for Imperial City. I didn't touch ESO for months and no i am playing almost daily again.

    There would have to be additional changes made for Imperial City or most players would be killed by NPCs before ever getting to the PvP battles.
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  • ZOS_Hadeostry
    Greetings,

    Because there is a thread already open on this topic, we're going to close this one down so that all feedback can be consolidated in one place.

    You may continue the discussion here.
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