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This kind of thing shouldn't happen in game...

JiubLeRepenti
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Attention: this will be a very salty post.

I was about to beat veteran HM Cradle of Shadows on no death in a solo run. It took me dozens of hours of training to do it.

It was the first time I was able to beat Dranos Velador on the first try (he seems to randomly cast his shadows, and sometimes I just can't skip it with Psijic ulti because it's not ready yet).

During the OS phase of Velidreth, this happened:

https://youtu.be/BSo-mHibwko

Normally, the adds disappear during this phase, precisely to prevent them from forcing the player to move (which is why I didn’t block, and I didn’t have enough stamina to block anyway). But here, for the very first time in LITTERALY 50+ solo tries on her, the add does that?!?

How is this possible? Can we fix this? This is so frustrating...
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  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    I know this is supposed to be a serious post but I found this clip funny.
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    I know this is supposed to be a serious post but I found this clip funny.

    The clip is actually funny. I would find it funny myself if I wasn't about to get the solo trifecta for it.
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    Can you please confirm this is not supposed to happen?
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  • Dragonnord
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    I know this is supposed to be a serious post but I found this clip funny.

    The clip is actually funny. I would find it funny myself if I wasn't about to get the solo trifecta for it.

    Cradle of Shadows doesn't have a trifecta achievement.
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    Attention: this will be a very salty post.

    I was about to beat veteran HM Cradle of Shadows on no death in a solo run. It took me dozens of hours of training to do it.

    It was the first time I was able to beat Dranos Velador on the first try (he seems to randomly cast his shadows, and sometimes I just can't skip it with Psijic ulti because it's not ready yet).

    During the OS phase of Velidreth, this happened:

    https://youtu.be/BSo-mHibwko

    Normally, the adds disappear during this phase, precisely to prevent them from forcing the player to move (which is why I didn’t block, and I didn’t have enough stamina to block anyway). But here, for the very first time in LITTERALY 50+ solo tries on her, the add does that?!?

    How is this possible? Can we fix this? This is so frustrating...

    I have done the HM countless times and adds sometimes are there (if you don't kill them first).

    It was your fault that you dps-pushed Velidreth or that you didn't kill the adds timely for them not to be on that phase.

    Your mistake too for not managing your stamina better and not blocking regardless "this is the first time I see adds here."

    Video from 2019 as proof that adds are there. Even the same add that jumps on you is there on this video I leave below.
    On minute 21:02 the add is alive (check its health, missing some) and does the jump right before Velidreth does the mechanic, and the same add is still alive on minute 21:22 (check its health again - same missing amount) after the mechanic ended.

    https://youtu.be/JRG6wRI2oeQ?si=JdZvH0laZ3CIxtpd&t=1260
     
    Edited by Dragonnord on March 5, 2025 12:37PM
  • JiubLeRepenti
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    Dragonnord wrote: »
    Attention: this will be a very salty post.

    I was about to beat veteran HM Cradle of Shadows on no death in a solo run. It took me dozens of hours of training to do it.

    It was the first time I was able to beat Dranos Velador on the first try (he seems to randomly cast his shadows, and sometimes I just can't skip it with Psijic ulti because it's not ready yet).

    During the OS phase of Velidreth, this happened:

    https://youtu.be/BSo-mHibwko

    Normally, the adds disappear during this phase, precisely to prevent them from forcing the player to move (which is why I didn’t block, and I didn’t have enough stamina to block anyway). But here, for the very first time in LITTERALY 50+ solo tries on her, the add does that?!?

    How is this possible? Can we fix this? This is so frustrating...

    I have done the HM countless times and adds sometimes are there (if you don't kill them first).

    It was your fault that you dps-pushed Velidreth or that you didn't kill the adds timely for them not to be on that phase.

    Your mistake too for not managing your stamina better and not blocking regardless "this is the first time I see adds here."

    Video from 2019 as proof that adds are there. Even the same add that jumps on you is there on this video I leave below.
    On minute 21:02 the add is alive (check its health, missing some) and does the jump right before Velidreth does the mechanic, and the same add is still alive on minute 21:22 (check its health again - same missing amount) after the mechanic ended.

    https://youtu.be/JRG6wRI2oeQ?si=JdZvH0laZ3CIxtpd&t=1260
     

    You may have done HM countless times, but you should try it solo and see how hard it is to deal with all adds and boss. Also, the boss keeps casting them so if you wanna kill them all before to leave the boss alone, you can say goodbye to the trifecta (that implies to beat it in a certain time).

    Also, when boss says « don’t move a muscle » it implies you shouldn’t have to block during this phase. This is why adds disappear during this phase. This one didn’t disappear because he was in the air and about to stomp me.

    Anyway, thanks for your warm and supportive post, I passed it.
    Edited by JiubLeRepenti on March 5, 2025 4:43PM
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  • Kahnak
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    Attention: this will be a very salty post.

    I was about to beat veteran HM Cradle of Shadows on no death in a solo run. It took me dozens of hours of training to do it.

    It was the first time I was able to beat Dranos Velador on the first try (he seems to randomly cast his shadows, and sometimes I just can't skip it with Psijic ulti because it's not ready yet).

    During the OS phase of Velidreth, this happened:

    https://youtu.be/BSo-mHibwko

    Normally, the adds disappear during this phase, precisely to prevent them from forcing the player to move (which is why I didn’t block, and I didn’t have enough stamina to block anyway). But here, for the very first time in LITTERALY 50+ solo tries on her, the add does that?!?

    How is this possible? Can we fix this? This is so frustrating...

    I'm surprised you were able to kill Velador solo. Good on you for that alone.
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    Kahnak wrote: »
    Attention: this will be a very salty post.

    I was about to beat veteran HM Cradle of Shadows on no death in a solo run. It took me dozens of hours of training to do it.

    It was the first time I was able to beat Dranos Velador on the first try (he seems to randomly cast his shadows, and sometimes I just can't skip it with Psijic ulti because it's not ready yet).

    During the OS phase of Velidreth, this happened:

    https://youtu.be/BSo-mHibwko

    Normally, the adds disappear during this phase, precisely to prevent them from forcing the player to move (which is why I didn’t block, and I didn’t have enough stamina to block anyway). But here, for the very first time in LITTERALY 50+ solo tries on her, the add does that?!?

    How is this possible? Can we fix this? This is so frustrating...

    I'm surprised you were able to kill Velador solo. Good on you for that alone.

    Thx!

    https://youtu.be/qhLBwWOWkWo

    The Psijic ult allows you to avoid his OS phase with the shadows. But if you parse him too fast he can cast it twice in a row around 40-30 %. And when this happens, it's a wipe because your ult isn't ready yet ;)
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9cPgHydcc0

    Was finally able to record it :p
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  • Reginald_leBlem
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    Doesn’t "don't move a muscle" just mean don't leave your green circle? You should still be able to block.
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    Doesn’t "don't move a muscle" just mean don't leave your green circle? You should still be able to block.

    Yeah you can block. It's just that, since adds are removed during the phase, I wasn't expecting one of them to stomp me xD

    They didn't trick me twice for sure!
    Edited by JiubLeRepenti on March 9, 2025 12:04AM
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  • Rishikesa108
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    You guys are better than a cabaret show.
    I had a lot of fun reading your answers, thank you.
    And anyway, congratulations to both of you.
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    You guys are better than a cabaret show.
    I had a lot of fun reading your answers, thank you.
    And anyway, congratulations to both of you.

    And I still don't get why it escalated so fast :D
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  • Soarora
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    Dragonnord wrote: »

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    Not sure why you're dying on this hill, doesn't help the OP with their problem. No death, HM, speedrun, at the same time is a trifecta. Doing them at different times is a challenger. You can only get a challenger once; it only exists as the in-game achievement. You can get a trifecta infinite times as a personal achievement. It doesn't matter if there's an in-game achievement in the first place or not, there's no achievement for doing things solo either. But it's still a solo trifecta as an achieved personal goal.
    No serious endgamer is going to get a trifecta and call it a challenger ;).

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    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2025 10:16AM
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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    Well at least I hope you found the short video in my initial post funny xD.

    And sorry for having fed, should have ignored him/her.
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  • Rishikesa108
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    Soarora wrote: »
    Dragonnord wrote: »

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    Not sure why you're dying on this hill, doesn't help the OP with their problem. No death, HM, speedrun, at the same time is a trifecta. Doing them at different times is a challenger. You can only get a challenger once; it only exists as the in-game achievement. You can get a trifecta infinite times as a personal achievement. It doesn't matter if there's an in-game achievement in the first place or not, there's no achievement for doing things solo either. But it's still a solo trifecta as an achieved personal goal.
    No serious endgamer is going to get a trifecta and call it a challenger ;).

    Correct.

    [edited to remove quote]
    Edited by ZOS_Icy on March 9, 2025 10:17AM
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  • spartaxoxo
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    Way to go! This is seriously awesome 😎
  • ZOS_Icy
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    Greetings,

    We have recently removed some unnecessary back and forth from this thread. This is a reminder to keep the discussion civil and constructive. Please keep our Community Rules in mind moving forward.

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  • JiubLeRepenti
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    @ZOS_Icy thanks for the cleaning.
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    A little snail once told me there were no place for debate anymore.
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  • Rishikesa108
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    ZOS_Icy wrote: »
    Greetings,

    We have recently removed some unnecessary back and forth from this thread. This is a reminder to keep the discussion civil and constructive. Please keep our Community Rules in mind moving forward.

    The Elder Scrolls Online Team

    Thank you
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    I believe that you can block once even with just 1 point of stamina.
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