Shake up CP ZOS

KazaiDaGod · March 4

ZOS, at CP3600 should I destroy my experience scrolls as they will never ever be used? If you know then suggest, if not don't guess

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PLEASE 'Shake it up' and create a new cap of CP9000 and also re-calculate each level from 1 (technically everyone should get their CP reduced) so that each levels also becomes quite increasingly longer to get to. Like in Skyrim.

Haters of my suggestion also welcomed to comment.

Soraka · March 4

I save them for alts or leveling companions.
I don't have an opinion on the cp thing.

MincMincMinc · March 4

They already did a massive rework on cp and unfortunately made leveling too easy. I was cp 1700 before the change and now new players are up in the 2000s. Considering there are other systems so far out of balance I doubt they will return to work on cp any time soon.

Glyphs
Mundus
Races
Traits
Speed buffs
Snares/roots and immunity
Potions
Status effects

RealLoveBVB · March 4

Removing CP cap would be a welcome change.

TaSheen · March 4

I use the scrolls for alts. No opinion on the cap, I have zero interest in anything beyond the 12 slottables I have now and a few alternates for things like fishing....

Meiox · March 4

MincMincMinc wrote: »

..... now new players are up in the 2000s.....

If you think a 'new' player is over 2000cp, I would like to know your definition for a new player^^

Grizzbeorn · March 4

MincMincMinc wrote: »

new players are up in the 2000s.

New players are not at or above CP2000.
The time amd effort it takes to get there puts players way beyond the label of "new."

Artim_X · March 4

The scrolls are still relevant for leveling skills and possibly new characters, so IMHO no change is needed.

BXR_Lonestar · March 4

KazaiDaGod wrote: »

ZOS, at CP3600 should I destroy my experience scrolls as they will never ever be used? If you know then suggest, if not don't guess .
OR
PLEASE 'Shake it up' and create a new cap of CP9000 and also re-calculate each level from 1 (technically everyone should get their CP reduced) so that each levels also becomes quite increasingly longer to get to. Like in Skyrim.

Haters of my suggestion also welcomed to comment.

You will still want them to level new toons from 1-50, so there is always that.

Aside from that, there are very few CP 3600 players out there, so I don't think it makes sense to recalibrate the game for a small number of players.

That being said, I don't really like the new champion point system because the slottable system makes it so you have relatively little to no benefit beyond CP 1600 (the amount of Champion points you need to have 4 slottables maxed in each tree). As a CP 2500, that means I haven't achieved any appreciable growth in power in approximately 1000 levels. It would be nice to have more non-slottable champion point slots that can give you some benefit, even if it is something innocuous, such as improved sustain.

BradTheNord · March 4

As someone who’s been 3600 for over a year now I wish they would just uncap it at this point and let us just keep levelling

BretonMage · March 4

I think they should raise the cap to 5000 and expand the green tree. Housing is the real endgame, after all, so give us more housing related green perks

If we could have a perk which increases chances of getting furnishing leads, that would be great.

sans-culottes · March 4

A complete revamp of this system would be nice.

yourhpgod · March 4

the amount of work to rebalance the game for new players, returning players, and those that regularly play would be astronomical.

Even though the cap is high right now its very understandable that its capped where its at.

Renato90085 · March 4

Meiox wrote: »

MincMincMinc wrote: »

..... now new players are up in the 2000s.....

If you think a 'new' player is over 2000cp, I would like to know your definition for a new player^^

nbrp seller and event 2x exp that me met/know some 40+ new player(play eso only 1-3 month) but have 1400~2200cp in few day

ajkb78 · March 4

No thanks. Just make the green tree passive (I think some progress is coming next patch but make the whole thing passive IMO) and leave the rest alone. We've already had one big CP change. It is what it is, and yes once you have about 1400 CP you don't really need any more as you can cover 4 slottables and all the passives, but changes here need endless rebalance across everything, and I'd prefer to see development effort going somewhere more impactful.

ssewallb14_ESO · March 4

I mean, on one hand this is probably a fairly low effort change.

On the other hand it appeals to exactly 5 people, takes things away from the player, and increases the vertical height of a game that's pretty hard committed to horizontal progression at this point.

I rate this a bad game design out of 10.

abkam · March 4

Before all of that, I think they should see who reaches CP3600 in the Badlands, then fix the issues they already know about. After that, when people can no longer take advantage of something broken, then, yeah, remove the cap.

MincMincMinc · March 4

Meiox wrote: »

MincMincMinc wrote: »

..... now new players are up in the 2000s.....

If you think a 'new' player is over 2000cp, I would like to know your definition for a new player^^

Grizzbeorn wrote: »

MincMincMinc wrote: »

new players are up in the 2000s.

New players are not at or above CP2000.
The time amd effort it takes to get there puts players way beyond the label of "new."

By new I obviously mean time played. For instance I have a friend that just started another account 4 months ago and he is already at 1400cp. The xp farming available is so free compared to before.

Looking at it the other way, ESO is in a great spot for new players to get in and get straight to content. It really only takes a weekend to get to 160+ and farming gear.

OsUfi · March 4

A removal of or opt out of CP would also be nice. I hate the expectation that comes with the number next to my name.

katanagirl1 · March 4

I do not want my CP reduced. I’ve got a lot of hours in my characters but they are just above CP2600 right now.

rothan117 · March 4

If they tried to redo the CPs system again I dread to think how much stuff they would break and would take forever to fix.

Kaelthorn_Nightbloom · March 4

If you're CP 3600 and PvP Rank 50 then there's no level progression at all anymore. Kind of sucks for veteran players.

sans-culottes · March 4

SkaraMinoc wrote: »

If you're CP 3600 and PvP Rank 50 then there's no level progression at all anymore. Kind of sucks for veteran players.

Honestly, that progression becomes hampered way earlier given that you can max out the items for your Champion Bar and any CP passives you might need by what, 1200 CP or something? I forget the exact number, but it further diminishes the value of Champion Points.

Regarding hiding levels and Champion Points, not sure why this is presenting issues for anyone. However, competitors like EQ and others had tools early on for hiding character info (race, class, level). Some sort of anonymous, private, or RP mode wouldn’t be unreasonable.

magnusthorek · March 5

I haven't met or even see many 3600 CPs wandering around when I'm logged so, I'd dare say that's kind of an overplay issue, honestly.

That's something GW2 had in the past (don't know nowadays as I stopped playing) but, every time the company released new stuff, players rushed hard to complete them in a week or less, and then they complained there was nothing else to do.

Binging is unhealthy. 😬

Sarannah · March 5

A new CP cap should be in the millions with a similar exp curve as we have now(just expand the current system), ZOS should have done this when they created CP 2.0. As it stands CP 2.0 is fun and alright, but insufficient for the longterm.

PS: Exp should never be lost, gone, or deleted when the CP system is changed/expanded.

XSTRONG · March 5

We might have a new reason to lvl in the new seasons at least I hope so, as much as I like my main chars I still hope the seasons will have a fresh start which contains lvl new char.

Nestor · March 5

According to UESP, you need 1,855 to unlock the 4 most Expensive Slottables and all the Passives. Plus what ever you have spent in the Stars you have to start to unlock to get to all the Passives. I am guessing about 1950 to 2000 CPs.

With the changes to the Green Tree, I will be putting more points into that Tree as we get more Passives, then maybe 2100?

In theory, to unlock all passive perks and the most expensive four active perks 793 points for Craft, 542 points for Fitness and 520 points for Warfare are needed. This however is based purely on the numbers in the above tables and neglects reachability (e.g. "Bastion" must be unlocked before "Arcane Alacrity" can be unlocked) of the perks, so the actual points needed ingame might be a bit higher.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Champion

SilverBride · March 5

I don't think I'll ever reach 3600 as it is, and I play every day.

Rogue_Coyote · March 5

I would be down for a CP revamp if they removed the silly 4 slots per tree. Countless amounts of cp to spend but can only slot 4 skills. Would like to see more passive abilities.

sshogrin · March 5

I think that CP cap should be raised so you can at least unlock all passives/slottables in each tree. Raising the CP cap would give people that are that constant CP "grind" more leveling to do.

Having more CP allows you to have access to more slottables instead of spending gold on respec, or having to use the armory system so much.

I'd like to see more passives in each tree. Update 45 will give us that in the green tree.

I think that people that have done the work to get their CP should be able to benefit from that. There's a lot of time and effort into leveling CP.

abkam wrote: »

Before all of that, I think they should see who reaches CP3600 in the Badlands, then fix the issues they already know about. After that, when people can no longer take advantage of something broken, then, yeah, remove the cap.

I'm curious what this broken way is...

KazaiDaGod · March 6

I'm curious what this broken way is also...