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Battlegrounds are fun 10-49. At 50, not so much.

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Wife and I had fun leveling new toons in BG's during this event.
hitting 50, doing all the necessaries with passives, guild passives, skill lines, and golding the toons out is nothing but an exercise in frustration and really not a good way to spend our evening.

And yes, we have both played for years
And yes, we understand the imporance of resist and impen.
And yes, we can read. Guides upon guides upon guides.
And yes, we have been PVPing for over 2 decades in a myriad or games from FPS to MOBA to MMORPGs.

We want to like ESO PVP, but getting globaled over and over by stealth bombers, gankers, dragon knights take flight, etc is simply not fun, not even in the slightest.

The only thing keeping us in game is housing. WoW has housing coming out at the end of the year, neither of us see a reason to stick around now (as we both feel wow's pvp is infinitely better balanced, ultimately leading to more fun regardless of the combat style).

To the devs who care, please, you need to make some serious drastic changes to PVP if you intend to keep these players around or attract new players. The gap between new and sweaty is INSANELY huge (not suggesting that we are "new" but recognise what a new player to the game would be going through and the frustration that ensues).

EDIT: I would like to add that we also can not play together. When we queue as a team (the two of us) in the 8v8 group queue, it rarely pops, or takes insane amounts of time (30 min plus) for a queue pop to happen. We enjoy playing games together, but with queues that long or do not pop, we can not play together. We tried cheesing the sysem (as its OBVIOUS that other players are playing in matches together left and right) by queuing at the same time...and one of two things happens. One of us gets the queue pop (usually the person who queues second), or we get placed on opposite sides. We simply cant win.

let me say that again, we simply cant win. We cant win when trying to play together, we cant win in the match itself by stealth griefers killing us inside of a stun. The entire system from queuing up to playing simply seems broken/not well made/both.
Edited by Pixiepumpkin on February 27, 2025 8:29PM
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  • moo_2021
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    yes you can, at least in PC-EU.

    Build 50k resist, team up with someone wearing rally cry and you'll see. Dawnbreaker 2k, curse 3k, ice comet 4k, Frag 4k, ...

    It effectively slows down the game and reduces the skill gap. Just avoid those wearing Hrothgar's.
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    Well i mean there are those people who plan to play below 50 pvp. they level up their hosries daily until they have their reconned battled gear with transmutes which requires learning traits and not playing their characters much except to learn traits and horse train and then when they hit 50 they delete that toon and start prepping another in rotation so rtheres always a toon to play. you can do that and no one has the right to tell you not to BUT dont expect much fanfare because new players will not like you beating them down so well much and experienced players will think not such nice things about you BUT you can do it. doesnt violate the tos as far as i know.
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    To the devs who care, please, you need to make some serious drastic changes to PVP
    They are, it's called Vengeance, you can read about it here. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/672287/pts-patch-notes-v10-3-1
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  • James-Wayne
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    Now add a ping 300+ to those issues and you will see why not having a server for Oceanic like every other MMO makes it impossible to play PvP.

    Unfortunately the changes required in this game far outweighs the development time required to make them.... Unless the new seasons format is something they have been working on for a few years but highly unlikely.
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  • Kaelthorn_Nightbloom
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    To the devs who care, please, you need to make some serious drastic changes to PVP
    They are, it's called Vengeance, you can read about it here. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/672287/pts-patch-notes-v10-3-1

    It's only a performance test. If you haven't watched Dev Q&A, check out the second half of this stream.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2362374320?t=0h15m53s

    Based on previous tests, they know complex abilities are causing performance issues. So now they're doing a test with basic abilities and if it goes well (good perf) then they have something to work with. If the test goes badly then they need to look elsewhere for what might be causing bad performance.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2362374320?t=0h25m3s

    Gina Bruno: "I think a lot of players are assuming we're just gonna move forward and that's going to be the new Cyrodiil."
    Brian Wheeler: "With this? The way it is right now? No."
    Rich Lambert: "No."
    Brian Wheeler: "We still want to allow you to get progression, get some gear. Right now the way this is set up is purely for performance reasons to get as much information and data as we can with it being as barebones as possible."
    Rich Lambert: "It's a test. That's the best way to explain it."

    Edited by Kaelthorn_Nightbloom on February 28, 2025 9:39AM
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  • Pixiepumpkin
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    Now add a ping 300+ to those issues and you will see why not having a server for Oceanic like every other MMO makes it impossible to play PvP.

    Unfortunately the changes required in this game far outweighs the development time required to make them.... Unless the new seasons format is something they have been working on for a few years but highly unlikely.

    Agreed.

    Our accounts are based in US, but we (now) live in the EU. I imagine a part of the problem is our ping (not that the issues I talk about in my OP were not the same when I was 100 miles from the servers). So I do feel your pain.

    I spam heals/shields at 50% only to die 1/4 of a second later, heals never going off, shields never applying. There is no doubt ping is an issue....

    ....but, Zenimax does not offer a paid account transfer. I'd gladly pay to transfer them, but no way in heck I am giving up my account I have spent literally thousands on (crown store) to play in EU on a "fresh" account.
    "Class identity isn’t just about power or efficiency. It’s about symbolic clarity, mechanical cohesion, and a shared visual and tactical language between players." - sans-culottes
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    The OP has some very good points and as a non pvper who did the new Battlegrounds this time just for the GP, maybe I would’ve had a better experience if I had used a level 10 toon just to complete 5 Battlegrounds with. If this ever rolls around again that’s what I might try. This is coming from someone who sometimes actually liked some of the three versus three team modes like Crazy King and Chaos Ball before it changed 🙂
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