Thank You Devs! And Especially the Devs in charge of PVP

Rogue_Coyote · February 20

I wanted to take a moment to thank the devs and especially the ones who focus on pvp, after 10 years we finally have a series of special "golden pursuits" completely PVP obtained. Thank you for giving the pvp community of ESO something special on our yearly event, that all of us look forward to every year.

CalamityCat · February 20

Agreed, it's really good to see a PvP pursuit. I think this is my favourite reward so far.

majorlginfidel · February 20

I agree that it is nice to see a PVP pursuit, but I am 100% certain that its only because of Midyear Mayhem. We won't see another until this time next year. Maybe I'm just being sour. Either way it a step in the right direction.

ZOS_Kevin · February 20

majorlginfidel wrote: »

I agree that it is nice to see a PVP pursuit, but I am 100% certain that its only because of Midyear Mayhem. We won't see another until this time next year. Maybe I'm just being sour. Either way it a step in the right direction.

We will have others planned outside of Whitestrake’s Mayhem.

AvalonRanger · February 20

No Thank You Devs!

The PVP is not so different from 2014.

And...after the GP season finished. People leave PVP again.
This is not fundamental improvement at all.

Icy_Waffles · February 20

I mean anything to drive engagement into content I’m always for! Even if it’s temporary during an event, I always enjoy doing content I don’t regularly partake in!

majorlginfidel · February 20

That is awesome. PVP is my end game. Thanks for the response.

kratier · February 20

nah bro i hate it, the servers have died, after waiting 30+ minutes for a queue
i also hate PVP because its a joke you flop over dead in 2 hits because you arent specced or geared a certain way , what a joke

EnnioJ · February 20

Yeah, but the Game clearly cannot handle the Event traffic. Thanks. When I saw this today, I knew right away this was going to cause BIG issues with the game.

Athanasia_Nocnitsa · February 20

the idea is nice; too bad it isn't playable.... again

aneova_ESO · February 21

Thank you for a Golden pursuit that's easier to skip, I appreciate you.

LadyGP · February 21

kratier wrote: »

nah bro i hate it, the servers have died, after waiting 30+ minutes for a queue
i also hate PVP because its a joke you flop over dead in 2 hits because you arent specced or geared a certain way , what a joke

Isn't this kind of how PvE is when you go into certain aspects of it?

sarahthes · February 21

EnnioJ wrote: »

Yeah, but the Game clearly cannot handle the Event traffic. Thanks. When I saw this today, I knew right away this was going to cause BIG issues with the game.

They openly said there was an ongoing DDoS. FYI the past few have also targeted FFXIV with similar performance hits at the same time. We aren't alone in this.

AcadianPaladin · February 21

I think this Golden Pursuits was well put together. PvP players are a significant part of the game and events for them are not common. As a PvE player, I will be completing one of the 15 tasks and that is just fine - there are plenty more opportunities to get 'stuff'. Further, I think the devs were wise to choose PvP-focused rewards (AP, Tel Var, battering ram animation). Again, as a PvE player, I will hardly miss those things. And lastly, combining this Golden Pursuit with the PvP Mayhem event is a natural fit.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 21

If only "PvP-ers" would not camp questing areas on purpose to pray on PvE-ers, that would be great... right ?
Cuz it is actually happening. People go into "dead camping" when there is only for example one faction logged (others are empty) and despite not having a single keep or outpost, they go and actually "camp" questing hubs in a ball group....

I mean, it was actually pretty easy to predict. That if there will be a Golden Pursuits event requiring people to go to a specific part of PvP area and talk to specific NPCs - those NPCs are gonna be camped. Cuz you know. There is this other Golden Pursuit tasks to kills 10 & 50 players in Cyro... so people got super lazy...

I wish there was a way to prevent something like this from happening. Cuz it falls very near griefing... which is technically against TOS... I guess it is just "bad quest design". It would be nice if there were more than 2 NPCs in Cities giving quests that would be in different areas (giving same quests) and quests would have random variants. So that it would be harder to camp those spots. I mean it is kinda toxic and is a thing that discourages people from playing.

Anyway, I have already done 14 out of 15 so I would not have to suffer through it any longer. It is nice that PvP-ers got something, but imho it could have been done better. Why there is no option to complete bounty board quests X times ? Why there is no options to complete IC quests X times ? The PvP-centric golden pursuits could have been chosen a bit better, so that it would not promote toxic behaviour.

SeaGtGruff · February 21

Not all of the pursuits require PvP, but most of them do.

And some of the ones that require being in a PvP zone don't actually require PvP per se.

Just pointing this out for the benefit of players who don't want to PvP at all.

This event has been a lot of fun so far, and I've only played for less than 6 hours on PC EU so far (excluding the hour or so of PvE activities before heading into IC and Cyrodiil).

I got 5/15 pursuits completed during the first couple of hours, then 3 more after taking a break to do a chore. I could easily finish the next set this evening to get 10/15, but I need to play on PC NA, too!

TheMajority · February 21

i wish the final reward was something that would actually be cool in PVP, like a war mount you could ride to display your a PVP player or something neat like that, instead of a animation for a PVE activity like gathering

averyfarmanb14_ESO · February 21

I'm not a PvP fan, but at least this PvP event doesn't force PvE folks into PvP to get PvE goodies. Even the customized action's PvP-themed - that works for me. I can skip the grind for a couple of weeks, and the PvP folks get some dedicated fun (and I don't spend my time getting ganked if I just don't participate in the event at all - because there's nothing there for me, I don't have to participate.) It's nice to see a "cleaner" something for PvP folks.

Elvenheart · February 21

As someone who rarely PvPs, somehow I’m already at 11/15! 😂

I did the duels with a friend so no pressure there, I’ve done two battlegrounds, not very well (sorry, teams) but I still don’t really care for the two team versus two team nature. I’ll probably try to get three more in for that task at some point. I completed all of the town quest endeavors really easily, got 100 foes and all the Tel Var in the IC sewers fast and am now working on 500, somehow I got credit for killing 2/10 players in Cyrodiil, just like because two DC players were camping quest givers in AD controlled Cropford inside the building, other than the battlegrounds, that was the only real PVP I engaged in. I damaged NPC‘s with a siege weapon. And I got the one about damaging players with the two battlegrounds I did and that was a surprise.

DaniimalsSF · February 21

Best pursuit by a golden mile.

demonology89 · February 21

My only complaint is that the 15k telvar reward is pretty low. Otherwise, the customized action is nice!

fall0athboy · February 21

AvalonRanger wrote: »

No Thank You Devs!

The PVP is not so different from 2014.

And...after the GP season finished. People leave PVP again.
This is not fundamental improvement at all.

That's not true.

Battlegrounds are worse.

carlos424 · February 21

Now, if you can just do something about the constant disconnects. It’s probably not really zos’s fault, as it seems that MS or whoever holds the purse strings is not investing in eso as much as they once did. In years past there would be extra resource allocation for this event, and things went way more smoothly. I’m assuming that is not that case recently. I, and I think alot of people, would be interested to see a comparison of disconnect rates from this year and years past. I’m sure you guys get logs showing those statistics. But, as the OP said, golden pursuits has been nice addition.

DestroyerPewnack · February 21

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

If only "PvP-ers" would not camp questing areas on purpose to pray on PvE-ers, that would be great... right ?

I spent a few hours doing just that today... 😂
Good times!

Rogue_Coyote · February 21

Elvenheart wrote: »

As someone who rarely PvPs, somehow I’m already at 11/15! 😂

I did the duels with a friend so no pressure there, I’ve done two battlegrounds, not very well (sorry, teams) but I still don’t really care for the two team versus two team nature. I’ll probably try to get three more in for that task at some point. I completed all of the town quest endeavors really easily, got 100 foes and all the Tel Var in the IC sewers fast and am now working on 500, somehow I got credit for killing 2/10 players in Cyrodiil, just like because two DC players were camping quest givers in AD controlled Cropford inside the building, other than the battlegrounds, that was the only real PVP I engaged in. I damaged NPC‘s with a siege weapon. And I got the one about damaging players with the two battlegrounds I did and that was a surprise.

Sounds like you're having fun!

AvalonRanger · February 22

I respect Dev team as Tamriel creators. They showed me much of great experience
of each race's culture and Tamriel history. I want to keep supporting those activity.
But, I really hate combat of this game.

Well...at this point, Skyrim was better.

First of all, Dev should not push the contents which doesn't have decent QA as
Golden Pursuit issue.

This is not good manner as online game manager.

Please don't pretend ESO-PVP is decent game design. It's not totally product quality at all.

.....Even after 10 years later now.

I'll tell ya my old experience. 10 years ago...

My first Cyrodiil day is year 2014. It was just 3 weeks later of launching day.
One day, I was wondering vast empty "Cyrodiil" zone. I might be Lv 15 or some degree DK class
without Champion Point. (There're no champion point system in those days.)

Suddenly, I engaged 1 sorcerer class opponent team player. Then, unbelievably strange
accident happen. That guy got me by just 1 thunder bolt shot!! Just one single skill shot killed me.

Well...

If that was BattleField, then I think like this. "Maybe, high ranking sniper player killed me from long distance.
That was excellent aiming skill ! I'm impressed !".

Of course, I don't think like that in ESO which is such a "auto aiming assisted" wicked way
combat game. That sorcerer was standing in front of me, and actually killed me by just one shot. 　

Do you understand problem of this? Just imagine this. One team only have 22cal small pistol by some reason,
but opponent equip huge gatling machine gun with nimble movement (<--strangely..) and with auto aiming system
in the vast empty combat zone. This is not game any more.

And, we're in 2024 now. This broken dissonance never changes.

There're unkillable sitting tank keep staying in fort for some trolling purpose, or insane crazy damage, too much
weird character building mechanic system. And, nonsense meta game rules everywhere in ESO including PVE.

Sign...how...how can I feel sincerity of Dev team? It's a 10 yeas! Decade later, still Dev couldn't
solve major dissonance of the game, leaving PVP without fundamental improvement through this
10 years. Wow...amazing.

How about make fixed parameter PVP only class for decent balancing?
(ex. Scout class, Heavy amor class, PVP Healer class, Siege class)
It's a totally fair PVP contents.

I don't want to do "boasting of broken character build". Just want to play fair game.

AvalonRanger · February 22

fall0athboy wrote: »

AvalonRanger wrote: »

No Thank You Devs!

The PVP is not so different from 2014.

And...after the GP season finished. People leave PVP again.
This is not fundamental improvement at all.

That's not true.

Battlegrounds are worse.

Agree, that's more worse than classic Cyrodiil.

Once I saw opponent team melting like the butter in front of my PUG team.
That was just bully, not fun at all. Because there're no superior combat technique.
Just not balanced. I don't want to play such a nonsense.