Zone chat: still chat or advertising tool?

DreamyLu
DreamyLu
✭✭✭✭✭
Hello All

Since several months, depending on the zones, I see in chat:
- Guild recruitments.
- Selling Runs.
- Selling items (out of trading system).
- Call for group for dolmen/bosses.
- Calls for dungeons/trials.
- Calls for missing players in Group Finder (!).
- Recently and increasing: Advertisement that the player has put something to sell at a specific guild trader (!).
- And of course, last but not least, beggars (especially over the weekend).

That's about 80 to 90% of the zone chat content I see. So what? Nobody is chatting anymore? :/

Now I play out of peak times. So I don't know if it's a real tendency or if it's only because I'm in a phase of low population, whereas it seems to me that I was seeing a lot more chats a while ago. I'm not sure.

How it is at peak times? Are there more chats in zone chat? Or is there this same "trend" that the zone chat turns into an advertising tool?
I'm out of my mind, feel free to leave a message... PC/NA
  • wilykcat
    wilykcat
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see random stuff in the zone chat all the time since I mostly play in the evenings. Also I've seen lots of players chat(using zone chat) in grahtwood, daggerfall, and auridon. It all depends on time of day and
  • DenverRalphy
    DenverRalphy
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭
    On PSNA, Summerset usually has random topic zone chats going on. Likely because it's the most lucrative zone to fish, so you have a lot of players there with too much time on their hands and a lot to say while they're standing around fishing. Though admittedly it often turns toxic when the newly minted gold farmer character begs for sould gems. Then it's spam scroll vitriol condemning the gold farmer.


    Edited by DenverRalphy on February 17, 2025 5:55AM
  • pecheckler
    pecheckler
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just one more reason that serious ESO players want to transfer from console to PC. If I see one more Brazilian "guild" selling runs I will lose it!
    End the tedious inventory management game.
  • C_Inside
    C_Inside
    ✭✭✭✭
    This is what happens when most of the content in your game is solo activities. No one talks because there's no need to interact with players for the vast majority of the stuff you can do in ESO. And the content that does require talking to others is mostly instanced dungeons, trials, IA or pvp. Not overland.
  • licenturion
    licenturion
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    C_Inside wrote: »
    This is what happens when most of the content in your game is solo activities. No one talks because there's no need to interact with players for the vast majority of the stuff you can do in ESO. And the content that does require talking to others is mostly instanced dungeons, trials, IA or pvp. Not overland.
    U don’t need to chat for group activity either.

    The group finder has to be one of the best things they added to the game. I didn’t use to do a lot things in the game but thanks to the group finder I do trial runs, arena’s and other stuff quite regularly.

    I am in ESO to play a game, not for a social media chatter box or begging people for help. So the group finder is a godsend for introverts like me.

    I am also in a high value trading guild where they motto is ‘sell like hell and keep quit’.
    Edited by licenturion on February 17, 2025 7:57AM
  • Northwold
    Northwold
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭
    On the selling items point, since that is the only way people who are not guild members can sell anything (because of the truly weird way the game's trading system was set up), that's not going to go anywhere until ZOS create a more sensible selling mechanism.

    I usually see a bit of chatter but your summary sounds fairly typical. I'm not sure zone chat is ever going to be a widely used social tool since you've got a lot of players doing a lot of different things, many of whom aren't here purely or at all for player interaction. You can just close the chat window.
    Edited by Northwold on February 17, 2025 9:33AM
  • SeaGtGruff
    SeaGtGruff
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I regularly see players chatting amongst themselves, especially at certain times of the day or week. To be honest, I'd rather do without some of it, because at times I find it borderline offensive. For instance, I'm not amused by players joking about things such as buying Argonian slaves, or discussing real-world politics. I'd much prefer to see ads for player guilds, people trying to sell runs, players asking for daily quest shares or looking for help with a world boss or world event, or looking for someone to craft gear for them, or trying to sell recipes and furnishing plans, or trying to buy material resources in bulk, or anything else that's game-related. I mean, it's also nice to see people just chatting with each other, but sometimes the topics or humor can be controversial or just plain crude.
    I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!
  • ApoAlaia
    ApoAlaia
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    The in-game chat is substantially moderated which - judging by the threads that popped up recently on the subject - drove quite a few players that still used it to third party solutions for their communication needs.

    The current prevalence of 'marketing' messages on chat could be more a consequence of the absence of any other messaging rather than a substantial increase on the occurrence of these.

    Said that there is also the fact that trading volumes (not just revenue) have been down month-on-month for quite a while and guilds might feel pressured into trying to recruit more aggressively in order to keep up with the bids which have not gone down at the same rate (as we engage on a race to the bottom to see who runs out of gold first).

    Furthermore Crown trade seems to have stalled somewhat too, which was a strong contributor to carry runs (as traders/runners used the in-game gold to purchase shop items and sellers used the gold to purchase carries) therefore 'runners' may also feel the need to advertise more.

    Ultimately it might just be a compounding issue. Maybe the in-game chat does - as other systems do - work as a measuring device of sorts.

    Edited by ApoAlaia on February 17, 2025 11:02AM
  • sans-culottes
    sans-culottes
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    pecheckler wrote: »
    Just one more reason that serious ESO players want to transfer from console to PC. If I see one more Brazilian "guild" selling runs I will lose it!

    Amen. These ads are constant, and the “guild” is notorious for requesting RL money payments. I’d pay a pretty penny to transfer from the miserable PSNA to PCNA.
  • DragonRacer
    DragonRacer
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    Asking for help at world bosses or asking to group up for that kind of content seems like normal chatter to me. What kind of chatter do you feel is missing? Mostly what I see in zone chat - if it isn't asking for that kind of help or the advertisements - is a bunch of political fighting or toxic trolling, which in comparison the advertisements are more welcome at that point, in my opinion.

    I think a lot of normal random chatter like "How is your day going?" or whatnot normally occurs in guild chats, where players are more familiar with each other on a daily/weekly basis than random strangers in zone chat.
    PS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer13
  • Orbital78
    Orbital78
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I put it on its own tab to let the troll *** have at it in the background.
  • Taril
    Taril
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see normal chats in some zones.

    Well... "Normal"... There's still quite a lot of furry ERP in Auridon on PCEU...

    Though from my experience most of the chatting in game happens in local chat with people standing in groups around the wayshrines chatting with each other. Which is excellent. Since I don't want to have to suffer through Barrens Chat levels of inane garbage when I'm just doing stuff in a zone.

    Also places like Auridon, Glenumbra and Stonefalls are rife with Newbie chat. With new players asking questions about the game (Things like builds, how skills work, how events work, asking for help with Endeavours/Golden Pursuits etc) and veterans answeing their questions.

    The main thing is there's not really much reason to chat in zone chat. Like, starting a conversation there is just out of the blue yelling into the void and hoping someone answers which is why few people do it (Including yourself presumably).

    You throw in the fact that Delves and Public Dungeons are on a different zone chat than the actual overland and it's less likely that someone who'd just doing general stuff in a zone will be able to participate in a zone chat (Someone clearing a zone or doing dailies will be dipping into and out of such things)

    To top it off you have guilds to boot. Where people can be members of several guilds, giving them plenty of people to chat with consistently rather than trying to do something in zone chat.

    Hence, zone chat being more of an advertisement space. Since there are other, often better, avenues for having social interactions.
  • Tandor
    Tandor
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always disable public chat in any game I play these days, there's simply nothing I want to be distracted by, but don't those who do want to chat generally use Discord these days?
  • Wereswan
    Wereswan
    ✭✭✭✭
    It's particularly awesome how people are now posting trial listings in the group finder that are just ads for their carries.
  • freespirit
    freespirit
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭
    I chat mostly within my guilds, having said that if I see anyone asking for help in zone chat, if I can help, I will engage. <3

    I make my home in Riften so the zone chat is always full of people looking for vampire and werewolf bites and ofc the following arguments if someone dares try to sell a bite! >:)
    When people say to me........
    "You're going to regret that in the morning"
    I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!
  • SilverBride
    SilverBride
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    ✭✭✭✭✭
    C_Inside wrote: »
    This is what happens when most of the content in your game is solo activities. No one talks because there's no need to interact with players for the vast majority of the stuff you can do in ESO. And the content that does require talking to others is mostly instanced dungeons, trials, IA or pvp. Not overland.

    I find that doing solo content gives me even more time to chat. Doing group activities requires paying attention, so there isn't any time for friendly chat.
    PCNA
Sign In or Register to comment.