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6 v 6 for under 50 Battlegrounds
Zenartista
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I often get into situations where we are about a player short while im leveling a character through under 50 bgs.
Can lowbie pvp be set to 6 v 6 or maybe a free for all mode to mitigate the lower player count.
Can lowbie pvp be set to 6 v 6 or maybe a free for all mode to mitigate the lower player count.
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Major_Mangle✭✭✭✭✭Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.Ps4 EU 2016-2020
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moo_2021✭✭✭✭✭BG is not cyro.
Sub 50 BG was full of newbies and lowbies and it's fun without any build.2 -
Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Major_Mangle wrote: »Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.
They are talking about BGs. That is made clear in the title. The campaigns are not relevant.1 -
Major_Mangle✭✭✭✭✭Major_Mangle wrote: »Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.
They are talking about BGs. That is made clear in the title. The campaigns are not relevant.
It's relevant and my point of "smurfing" was meant towards battlegrounds (could've made that clearer in my comment). It's extremely common that players with gold gear (usually gold gear every 5-10 levels) to reroll twinks/alts in sub 50 just to sealclub newer players.
Again tho, it's so easy to level up characters these days that sub 50 serves absolutely 0 purpose. Even a new eso player is better of getting to 50 before trying to learn PvP than wasting time in any of the sub 50 PvP areas (BG's or Icereach). The PvP you do in sub 50 has no translation to PvP later on, so it's not like you "learn" anything anyway.Edited by Major_Mangle on February 15, 2025 7:44AMPs4 EU 2016-2020
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Amottica✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Major_Mangle wrote: »Major_Mangle wrote: »Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.
They are talking about BGs. That is made clear in the title. The campaigns are not relevant.
It's relevant and my point of "smurfing" was meant towards battlegrounds (could've made that clearer in my comment). It's extremely common that players with gold gear (usually gold gear every 5-10 levels) to reroll twinks/alts in sub 50 just to sealclub newer players.
Again tho, it's so easy to level up characters these days that sub 50 serves absolutely 0 purpose. Even a new eso player is better of getting to 50 before trying to learn PvP than wasting time in any of the sub 50 PvP areas (BG's or Icereach). The PvP you do in sub 50 has no translation to PvP later on, so it's not like you "learn" anything anyway.
It seemed more like a comment about campaigns since it was heavily talking about campaigns and things that were related only to them. Granted, this is the opinion that the other two posters in this thread gleamed from what we read.
It is not for any of us to decide what is in the best interest of other players. Many prefer PvP and would balk at the suggestion that they are wasting time leveling up a character in PvP. They prefer PvP over PvE, which means that sub-50 absolutely serves a purpose.
The OP put it appropriately with their follow-up comment that it is fun.
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Iriidius✭✭✭✭✭Player short seems to be a bug rather than really missing a player. A few years ago 4v4v4 bgs would often not start for quarter or half an hour because a player was missing and never got replaced but players leaving would get replaced. Once even landed in same bg after leaving and deserter time that still had not started.
For u50 bgs with already limited population it is still a bad idea to offer only the 8v8 version requiring twice as many players insteat of 4v4 that would start much faster. It should still create 4v4s if there are not enaugh people for 8v8(at primetime there usually are enaugh). Maybe could even bring back 4v4v4 for u50.Major_Mangle wrote: »Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.Major_Mangle wrote: »Major_Mangle wrote: »Sub 50 should be removed. It's only used for smurfing and emp selling (Icereach). With how easy it is to level up these days it serves no purpose to have a sub 50 PvP campaign, especially with how thin the PvP population already is. Sub 50 is a waste of server space if you ask me.
They are talking about BGs. That is made clear in the title. The campaigns are not relevant.
It's relevant and my point of "smurfing" was meant towards battlegrounds (could've made that clearer in my comment). It's extremely common that players with gold gear (usually gold gear every 5-10 levels) to reroll twinks/alts in sub 50 just to sealclub newer players.
Again tho, it's so easy to level up characters these days that sub 50 serves absolutely 0 purpose. Even a new eso player is better of getting to 50 before trying to learn PvP than wasting time in any of the sub 50 PvP areas (BG's or Icereach). The PvP you do in sub 50 has no translation to PvP later on, so it's not like you "learn" anything anyway.
Emp selling is irrelevant as there is no emperor in battlegrounds. Sub 50 battlegrounds do barely take players from lvl50 PvP as in your suggestion the players would not be able to do battlegrounds at all until reaching lvl 50. Despite sealclubbers/rerollers u50 battlegrounds are still easier than lvl50 ones were every player is as strong as a reroller. A u50 char in crafted gear massacring in battlegroundd is still chanceless in ravenwatch/GH/BR. To your suggestion of lvl to 50 a lot of players including thread creator and me are using bgs for that.
U50 bgs do not take much serverspace as instances are only created when there are enaugh players snd than they are not wasted, are they?
Icereach seems pretty dead and I wonder why ZoS created a second campaign of it when both are empty but they help u50 do quests.
If they waste much server space and closing them would free it ZOS probably would do it. Maybe can integrate u50 in template PvP.
A few years ago there were often 2 pugs with 24 players each and many solos.
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