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Broken pvp

  • shirorxb14_ESO
    Lucardes wrote: »
    PvP is broken? I'm surprised! (Sarcasm) curious if you guys are still subbed, because if your hoping for changes to PvP, well sad to say there is none coming.

    They should probably go ahead and suspend you from posting on campaign boards.
    Raiya Sunrazor - Imperial Sorcerer - Auriel's Bow
  • Luvsfuzzybunnies
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    shaky010 wrote: »
    As a DK im calling a nerf on 1h & shield templars, all they do is KD, shield bash and then heal if they get into trouble.

    Im also calling a nerf to Sorc 1h & shield, all they do is KD, shield bash and the teleport away if they get into trouble.

    Again Im calling a nerf to NB 1h & shield, they KD, ambush and shield bash you to death.

    I think I see the trend.... All classes other than DK are way to strong.... nothing to do with 1h & shield

    1h sheild is a big part of the problem. Talons having no immunity and couldnt possibly stop you from getting away from one of those sheild bashing dks though could it. Nor could the aoe shackle. I mean those other classes totally cc you til you have exhausted your resource pools like dks do right? Im sure youre a vampire too right so you constantly run out of resources cause your morphed bat swarm doesnt return stamina magicka health and ultimate power. So yes there are several problems contributing to the issues people have with dks. Some having to do with op world/weapon ability exploits. Some having to do with a class that only has 1 vulnerability in their cc kit that being sorcs with bolt escape. Im not saying to nerf your cc either im just saying make it effect bolt escape and give players the ability to break free and have immunity for 6 seconds like all other disables. Also the fix to bash damage should solve a fair few I got kd'd and bashed to death issues people are having.
    Jukette VR12 DC Nightblade 14 day campaign.
    Kitten Kisser VR12 DC Sorcerer 14 day campaign
  • davidhorstub17_ESO
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    shaky010 wrote: »
    As a DK im calling a nerf on 1h & shield templars, all they do is KD, shield bash and then heal if they get into trouble.

    Im also calling a nerf to Sorc 1h & shield, all they do is KD, shield bash and the teleport away if they get into trouble.

    Again Im calling a nerf to NB 1h & shield, they KD, ambush and shield bash you to death.

    I think I see the trend.... All classes other than DK are way to strong.... nothing to do with 1h & shield

    1h sheild is a big part of the problem. Talons having no immunity and couldnt possibly stop you from getting away from one of those sheild bashing dks though could it. Nor could the aoe shackle. I mean those other classes totally cc you til you have exhausted your resource pools like dks do right? Im sure youre a vampire too right so you constantly run out of resources cause your morphed bat swarm doesnt return stamina magicka health and ultimate power. So yes there are several problems contributing to the issues people have with dks. Some having to do with op world/weapon ability exploits. Some having to do with a class that only has 1 vulnerability in their cc kit that being sorcs with bolt escape. Im not saying to nerf your cc either im just saying make it effect bolt escape and give players the ability to break free and have immunity for 6 seconds like all other disables. Also the fix to bash damage should solve a fair few I got kd'd and bashed to death issues people are having.

    everyone knows talons is a really strong skill, but come on its really only OP against other dks who you can chain root and stand at their back beating them up. sorcs bolt out of it, nbs dark cloak out of it (lol if they took shadowy disguise they shouldnt be pvping anyway), templars purify out it, everyone can slot purge, or retreating maneuver, or hell just roll out of it. its an awesome skill and every dk is going to spam it but its not like it doesnt have ANY counterplay.

    dks are op because of dragon blood and battle roar, they could nerf talons to one target and double the mana cost and dks would still demolish you in pvp. people that complain about talons are clueless to how dks really work and why they are losing to them.
  • Kyotee0071
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    See my signature and start from there.

    Thanks
    I didn't think my hangover was that bad this morning until I spent 10 minutes trying to log into my old Etch-A-Sketch

  • don.sony2013pub19_ESO
    don.sony2013pub19_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    It is hard when to truly test your character in PVP. You need to be a veteran to do so.

    I would like to see battlegrounds where lower level players could play each other with out getting slaughtered in one hit by some VR10. I think 4-5 new zones with specific level caps would let lvl1-10,etc. test their toons in PVP. That way when you get to the Alliance war your not feeling so clueless. If I didn't have a full time job though I might have a VR10.

    I am a PVP guy but feel as if I can't even really PVP till the max level. :(
  • Lucardes
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    PvP is broken period, any doubters are just fan boys that aare still trying to reason their bordom
    Lucefer
    #1 Sorcerer in EP Dawnbreaker
  • Grim13
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    B R O K E N !
  • Grim13
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    I'm counting 8 seconds of lag... and half my attempts to use a skill fail. Whatever ZOS did today has made this game even more of a shitshow.
    Edited by Grim13 on May 13, 2014 12:35AM
  • frwinters_ESO
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    Lucardes wrote: »
    PvP is broken period, any doubters are just fan boys that aare still trying to reason their bordom
    Grim13 wrote: »
    B R O K E N !

    Awwww did you get beated up in Cyrodil and now say it broken? Need hugs?
  • Lucardes
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    Lucardes wrote: »
    PvP is broken period, any doubters are just fan boys that aare still trying to reason their bordom
    Grim13 wrote: »
    B R O K E N !

    Awwww did you get beated up in Cyrodil and now say it broken? Need hugs?

    Umm, the game is actually broken man.
    Lucefer
    #1 Sorcerer in EP Dawnbreaker
  • Thechemicals
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    PvP has been fun for me. Havent had any of the problems the op or others have been talking about. I run a Templar 1h and shield that heals for a guild and swaps to dps when needed. I never travel alone either.

    The biggest challenges in the game for me are large groups that are organized/skilled, not Dragonknights who can talon or sorcerers who can bolt escape.
    Vr14 Templar since release- dual resto
    Vr14 Dk bow/2h

    Brayan Blackthunder
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  • abrizsb14_ESO1
    Only those who have ti state they are good at what they do most likely suck at what they do thinking everyone will just take there word for it.

    I said that so people don't think I am just another would be PvP'er. Believe me or not, I could care less. Point is, the game is broken, and it is coming from a person that knows more about PvP then the guy who is in charge of it at Zenimax.

    Edited by abrizsb14_ESO1 on May 13, 2014 7:10PM
  • abrizsb14_ESO1
    I think it's pretty much to late as this point. Being in a guild that has almost 200 members with a lot of them being active, only two of us still PvP. I would say about 40 members in the guild did actively PvP from day one but with the handful of broken builds running around, most are not bothering with PvP any more until different PvP modes start to be implemented into the game. The 1.1 patch is a start but I can tell by going through it that it won't be enough to bring players back that have already left.

    Also, they should merge down the campaigns as most campaigns are dead are slowly heading in that direction. We only need 5 at the moment & merging the others could bring more balance to them that are completely lopsided at the moment.

    Merging campaigns will decrease the ald population how so? The issue right now is so many people play ald dominion. They have a lock on most servers with a zerg at all times. When the other 2 factions do actually get numbers they have to compete with each other and ald to get back their resources. This imblance im afraid cant be fixed unless some people change to cov and pact.

    Where are you getting your information from? Because AD/EP actually out number us on the server I play on.. Wabajack... so I have no clue where you get your statistics from.
  • Infraction
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    Only those who have ti state they are good at what they do most likely suck at what they do thinking everyone will just take there word for it.

    I said that so people don't think I am just another would be PvP'er. Believe me or not, I could care less. Point is, the game is broken, and it is coming from a person that knows more about PvP then the guy who is in charge of it at Zenimax.

    Hey, at least your modest!

  • nukeyoo
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    Infraction wrote: »
    Only those who have ti state they are good at what they do most likely suck at what they do thinking everyone will just take there word for it.

    I said that so people don't think I am just another would be PvP'er. Believe me or not, I could care less. Point is, the game is broken, and it is coming from a person that knows more about PvP then the guy who is in charge of it at Zenimax.

    Hey, at least your modest!
    I'm not saying I'm good...
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    But I'm the best...
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    - done w/ it
  • Grim13
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    Tonight, I was running from 10, or so, Blues... when I managed to get to the posterior door into the keep... Phew, I thought... I made it! I'd Shadow Cloaked the last 10 feet BUT when the interior appeared, I was dead.


    ..5 feet inside the keep...


    ..and my upgrade of cloaking removes 4 DoTs...



    Rofl

    lol

    That about sums it up.

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  • cypherclone_ESO
    cypherclone_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    There needs to be a few structural changes and targetting changes as well to PvP. Im saying a sorc being able to kill players through the ceiling is rediculous. And to mention shooting through walls, and chain pulling longer ranged than the chain pulls. I mean come on, there has to be some sort of serverside defences to prevent these exploiters from doing all the things they do.

    Also noticed that while on offensive with one faction healing and attacking skills were "nerfed" while attacking the other faction they were "normal." This was very strange and everyone that was in my guild group experienced this.

    Merging Campaigns would be bad. I believe that giving us "more" would stretch out AD numbers and make it harder for them to switch between the servers faster. That would make it also easier for more PvP options for newer players as well. I think these current campaigns were a starting ground for release.

    As far as the whinners and complainers about having WW and Vamp abilities in PvP, I do not think that they need to be reduced / removed. They were made for a purpose and "some" of them were earned. Let the ones that choose to be either have the abilities and negative effects and live with it.

    We need to focus on the main tasks, not the little things. If we just fix all the little bugs for PvP, then nothing will get taken care of and PvP will seem to get worse and worse, for "most" of us....
  • Gloran
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    If it's easy and effective, people will do it.
    If it's stupid and it works it's not stupid.
    But yeah i kind of agree that the whole shield bashing galore going on, is quite silly and makes the combat mechanics look rather dull.
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  • galiumb16_ESO
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    I do not find PvP that bad, granted you have to be aware of those kind of things and setup your group accordingly, but generally if I am caught enough that someone can shield bash me down, I was dead anyways regardless of what they use. Bash spam just lets me identify who the window lickers are.

    In my opinion they should make very few balance changes until such time as most folks are V10 and we are comparing end game to end game. Balancing now with a lot of level disparity just means you break it for when it gets balanced.
  • Atheus
    Atheus
    I do not find PvP that bad, granted you have to be aware of those kind of things and setup your group accordingly, but generally if I am caught enough that someone can shield bash me down, I was dead anyways regardless of what they use. Bash spam just lets me identify who the window lickers are.

    In my opinion they should make very few balance changes until such time as most folks are V10 and we are comparing end game to end game. Balancing now with a lot of level disparity just means you break it for when it gets balanced.

    Are you sure that's what it means? They decided to let everyone PvP starting at level 10, so shouldn't it be at least modestly fun to do so at level 10? Is it just fine to have a feature that is completely imbalanced and nothing but frustrating to make a lasting impression on your new players?

    My position is if they're going to let you in the gate and buff you up to level 50 so you can be vaguely competitive, they should put a little more effort into making that little trick work. Aside from that, there are clearly some ability combinations that are absurdly strong. When you see a VR10 sword and board guy comfortably charging into 10-20 enemies and not only failing to die instantly, but managing to hang around for a minute or so and kill several enemies while absorbing/healing all the damage from 10-20 players pounding on him, that's just broken. Nobody should be that durable.
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