Your pro and cons about recent console delay?

METALPUNKS · May 2014

I really want some input from the community about this. How do you feel about the recent news? It's a big deal, there's good and bad. Please post your thoughts and comment on mine.

Pros:

-character transfer from pc. This is huge for me since I've been playing on pc for a month thinking this whole time that my character will be worthless once I start playing on my platform of choice ps4

- called ZOS to confirm everything transfers. Pc preorder items and imperial edition

-game will have loads of content by then

-hopefully it will run smooth although I have my cons about this listed below

-being ahead of the game.

Cons

-characters only transfer if you start playing before end of June. Not cool. What if console players want or cannot afford to start in June.

-having to wait until basically next year!

-so many huge triple A title coming out before and around that time

-this one is personal but I'm sure effects other. My league of 20 or so close friends who I planned on playing with next month is down to 4 people. Most left because of this news.

-character transfers. It's in my pros as well but my concern is how much of a mess this will be on launch day.

-a chance that they may cancel the game all together.

-it becoming free to play by then and the game being ruined

-another personal con. I wanted to experience this games story in awesome graphics on my ps4 but am stuck with my low/medium settings on my pc.

-players who play it now on pc who are gonna transfer their characters will be way ahead of them curve, new players will be at a major disadvantage.

Moiskormoimi · May 2014

I need to understand one thing: how does a pc player directly affect your gaming experience if they transfer?

I've seen this argument repeatedly. So...they're v12? That means you can't get there? Stops your game play? Stops your crafting, world exploration, questing? The only advantage they have is pvp and that's really slight and will be slight with the improvement(nerf) patches coming later on. I guess I don't see where the huge advantage is. There's going to be console players that buff up in level faster than you. I don't see where the transfers are any different or gain any real advantage from it.

METALPUNKS · May 2014

amber_picchiottino_ESO wrote: »

I need to understand one thing: how does a pc player directly affect your gaming experience if they transfer?

I've seen this argument repeatedly. So...they're v12? That means you can't get there? Stops your game play? Stops your crafting, world exploration, questing? The only advantage they have is pvp and that's really slight and will be slight with the improvement(nerf) patches coming later on. I guess I don't see where the huge advantage is. There's going to be console players that buff up in level faster than you. I don't see where the transfers are any different or gain any real advantage from it.

It's not a big deal to me but it's there. Think of someone who has been playing on pc for 6 months. They know they game in and out. Say its a guild of 50 people who transfers over to pc and have been playing in pvp for 6 months, they know how to work with eachother and know their skills etc. Then a new player comes in and goes into pvp, he will get destroyed. Like I said that con isn't mine personally, I labeled those ones. So I get what your saying. I'm just putting the stuff I've been hearing out there. I think the main thing is people want to levee with their friends and they won't be able to unless they roll a alt or have some type of level sinc system set in at that point.

annarr1117nub18_ESO · May 2014

PC version of TESO that I currently have installed is my best and only and wisest choice, I spit on the upcoming "Console" versions of the game which would basicly be watered down lame carbon copies of the game folks, the current "PC" version of TESO is the ultimate superior version of the game!

wrlifeboil · May 2014

Potential positives:
- no really good rpgs for new gen consoles have taken hold yet so there is no entrenched or signature rpg yet
- they have additional time to fix the bugs in the game that we PC gamers are finding; wouldn't be surprised if there are problems with phasing in the console version too;
- expected release would be near the start of the holiday shopping season when Sony and Microsoft will be advertising their consoles like crazy which will in turn generate interesting in software

Potential negatives:
- the lack of decent rpgs on the XBox One or PS4 may indicate that the console audience isn't all that interested in rpgs
- the company doing the port can't get eso to run well on the console with all the bells and whistles in the PC version given the hardware limitations; maybe the phasing and grouping problems unsolvable on the consoles
- throw in realization that they will have to deal with the additional headaches of updates, patching, etc. typical for console platforms

Lox · May 2014

Pro's:

- Hopefully won't have to hear about it too much over the next couple of months (will get louder again closer to launch).

Con's:
Expectant console players moaning on the forums

rawne1980b16_ESO · May 2014

Con's: People will have to wait longer to be able to play it on their shiny consoles.

Pro's: I'm a PC gamer so it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

*Insert PC gaming master race joke here*

annarr1117nub18_ESO · May 2014

I play only the "single" player RPGs on Xbox consoles and I play PC games and MMORPGs on my high performance quad core desktop PC folks!

Shiaxi · May 2014

I don't understand why you would switch to console if you already have the pc version.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with consoles; I'm not a pc elitist; I have a console myself... but I have specific preferences for what I play on my console and what I play on pc; (MMO) RPGs fall very definately in the pc category for me while JRPGs and it's like fall in the console category

METALPUNKS · May 2014

Shiaxi wrote: »

I don't understand why you would switch to console if you already have the pc version.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with consoles; I'm not a pc elitist; I have a console myself... but I have specific preferences for what I play on my console and what I play on pc; (MMO) RPGs fall very definately in the pc category for me while JRPGs and it's like fall in the console category

Good question and I have a very good answer for you. At least for me it's because my pc sucks. The game will look much better on my ps4. I just could not wait to play so I got it on pc until I can get it on ps4.

I will say now that I've actually played a game like this on pc I may very well purchase a pc later this summer. The freedom is amazing compared to console. I am in love with Addons!

Requiemslove · May 2014

annarr1117nub18_ESO wrote: »

PC version of TESO that I currently have installed is my best and only and wisest choice, I spit on the upcoming "Console" versions of the game which would basicly be watered down lame carbon copies of the game folks, the current "PC" version of TESO is the ultimate superior version of the game!

Sorry in advance and I do not mean this in a disrespectful way at all. I have to call you on your nerd PC mentality friend. I would like to play this game solely on PC, don't get me wrong, I would, but I have my doubts about this being the "right format" simply because of the darn bots. That and for £400-£500 [and probably cheaper in 6 months or so] you can have the same specs as you would for spending £1,500 on a gaming rig PC, that, and as I mentioned better security and less bots. [if not none] Basically your assumption ESO will be a lesser game on console, is unfair, as it has not happened yet and you will end up with egg on your face because consoles are BUILT for gaming. PCs....not so much, they have to be specced for it and you have to spent considerably more to get the desired outcome.

Syntse · May 2014

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Cons

-characters only transfer if you start playing before end of June. Not cool. What if console players want or cannot afford to start in June.

SNIP...SNIP

-players who play it now on pc who are gonna transfer their characters will be way ahead of them curve, new players will be at a major disadvantage.

Because the game was supposed to launch at June so anyone who pre-ordered and was anxious to get to play at June are rewarded with possibility to start with PC and continue on Console. It's just compensation for those people about the delay. Thus doesn't concern anyone who just learned that the game launches end of the year and thinks to pre-order.

People are too obsessed with being there first and learning stuff first. How this scenario differs from someone who just happens to get the game half a year later from launch. Or should they just not get the game because they are already "late". One will learn and eventually be as good as the others, no big deal.

zaria · May 2014

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Potential positives:
- no really good rpgs for new gen consoles have taken hold yet so there is no entrenched or signature rpg yet
- they have additional time to fix the bugs in the game that we PC gamers are finding; wouldn't be surprised if there are problems with phasing in the console version too;
- expected release would be near the start of the holiday shopping season when Sony and Microsoft will be advertising their consoles like crazy which will in turn generate interesting in software

Potential negatives:
- the lack of decent rpgs on the XBox One or PS4 may indicate that the console audience isn't all that interested in rpgs
- the company doing the port can't get eso to run well on the console with all the bells and whistles in the PC version given the hardware limitations; maybe the phasing and grouping problems unsolvable on the consoles
- throw in realization that they will have to deal with the additional headaches of updates, patching, etc. typical for console platforms

Lack of RPG for next gen is more that RPG takes long to develop, you will get some like Withcer 3 who also is ported from pc.
PS4 and One has good enough specifications for ESO.

Spryt · May 2014

Requiemslove wrote: »

That and for £400-£500 [and probably cheaper in 6 months or so] you can have the same specs as you would for spending £1,500 on a gaming rig PC, that, and as I mentioned better security and less bots. [if not none] Basically your assumption ESO will be a lesser game on console, is unfair, as it has not happened yet and you will end up with egg on your face because consoles are BUILT for gaming. PCs....not so much, they have to be specced for it and you have to spent considerably more to get the desired outcome.

You don't need a £1500 PC to run ESO on max settings. You could prob get one for about £500 without a monitor that will work just fine.

Still unknown how console version will work. Is it with max settings at 1080p @ 60 fps? Probobly not. But will see in 6 months.

METALPUNKS · May 2014

Spryt wrote: »

Requiemslove wrote: »

That and for £400-£500 [and probably cheaper in 6 months or so] you can have the same specs as you would for spending £1,500 on a gaming rig PC, that, and as I mentioned better security and less bots. [if not none] Basically your assumption ESO will be a lesser game on console, is unfair, as it has not happened yet and you will end up with egg on your face because consoles are BUILT for gaming. PCs....not so much, they have to be specced for it and you have to spent considerably more to get the desired outcome.

You don't need a £1500 PC to run ESO on max settings. You could prob get one for about £500 without a monitor that will work just fine.

Still unknown how console version will work. Is it with max settings at 1080p @ 60 fps? Probobly not. But will see in 6 months.

I'm guessing it will be. Look at ff14 arr on ps4. Also pretty much every game on ps4 runs at that so I bet eso would as well. Xboxone may struggle a bite though, I only say this because it has a few games at a lower framerate than ps4 and also there really isn't a game like this for it yet. Ps4 has dcuo, ff14, both running at 1080p 60fps. When I saw my friend running ff14 on ultra settings and then saw it on my ps4 the difference was so hard to even see. My biggest concern is voice chat for those 12 man trials.

zaria · May 2014

METALPUNKS wrote: »

Spryt wrote: »

Requiemslove wrote: »

That and for £400-£500 [and probably cheaper in 6 months or so] you can have the same specs as you would for spending £1,500 on a gaming rig PC, that, and as I mentioned better security and less bots. [if not none] Basically your assumption ESO will be a lesser game on console, is unfair, as it has not happened yet and you will end up with egg on your face because consoles are BUILT for gaming. PCs....not so much, they have to be specced for it and you have to spent considerably more to get the desired outcome.

You don't need a £1500 PC to run ESO on max settings. You could prob get one for about £500 without a monitor that will work just fine.

Still unknown how console version will work. Is it with max settings at 1080p @ 60 fps? Probobly not. But will see in 6 months.

I'm guessing it will be. Look at ff14 arr on ps4. Also pretty much every game on ps4 runs at that so I bet eso would as well. Xboxone may struggle a bite though, I only say this because it has a few games at a lower framerate than ps4 and also there really isn't a game like this for it yet. Ps4 has dcuo, ff14, both running at 1080p 60fps. When I saw my friend running ff14 on ultra settings and then saw it on my ps4 the difference was so hard to even see. My biggest concern is voice chat for those 12 man trials.

It require some discipline. However I have been in PvP with 40 in teamchat and it worked well, we was to many for one raid group so we used two.

I envy you the integrated chat, yes it would not work with two raid groups but currently I have three chat client installed as I'm in three guilds

Moonscythe · May 2014

I will play on a console as soon as possible because I hate gaming on my computer. The thing I really don't understand is this idea that transferred characters somehow confer superiority. Then no one should buy the game ever again for any platform because those who started in April at launch are gods and can never be beaten? That makes no sense. Being in the beta conferred no superiority and playing first on the PC won't either. In fact those who transfer after playing on a PC will have to learn the new controls and may be doing so in a far more hostile environment than the newbies in the starter areas.