Battlegrounds Feedback

Solariken · December 20

Please consider these changes to make the BG experience in ESO better:

First of all, there should not be separate queues for ranked and unranked BG's. What is the harm in just having all games ranked? ESO does not have the population to support so many queues! Here is the best workable solution:

Remove group queue for now, and build a "custom lobby" feature later so that groups/guilds can build their own matches and wagers.
In the meantime, have only 1 queue for battlegrounds: Solo (ranked)

Additionally, the leaderboard should be based on player @name, NOT character.

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johnJrant · December 20

Solariken wrote: »

Please consider these changes to make the BG experience in ESO better:

First of all, there should not be separate queues for ranked and unranked BG's. What is the harm in just having all games ranked? ESO does not have the population to support so many queues! Here is the best workable solution:
Remove group queue for now, and build a "custom lobby" feature later so that groups/guilds can build their own matches and wagers.

In the meantime, have only 1 queue for battlegrounds: Solo (ranked)

Additionally, the leaderboard should be based on player @name, NOT character.

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Very controversial. Are you suggesting combining an 8x8 and 4x4 queue? But what about those who don't want to be in an 8x8 swamp? If they make me waste my time there, I will definitely create dirt there.
The leaderboard on the player's name will not allow you to select by class.But I would like to have the account name next to the character's name.

Solariken · December 21

johnJrant wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Please consider these changes to make the BG experience in ESO better:

First of all, there should not be separate queues for ranked and unranked BG's. What is the harm in just having all games ranked? ESO does not have the population to support so many queues! Here is the best workable solution:
Remove group queue for now, and build a "custom lobby" feature later so that groups/guilds can build their own matches and wagers.

In the meantime, have only 1 queue for battlegrounds: Solo (ranked)

Additionally, the leaderboard should be based on player @name, NOT character.

.

Very controversial. Are you suggesting combining an 8x8 and 4x4 queue? But what about those who don't want to be in an 8x8 swamp? If they make me waste my time there, I will definitely create dirt there.
The leaderboard on the player's name will not allow you to select by class.But I would like to have the account name next to the character's name.

Yes, combine the queues and make it RNG which mode you get. 8v8 can be overwhelming but chaos can be fun too.

Re: the leaderboard, I mean the medal score accrual should go to your account, not individual characters. It would be nice to climb the leaderboard without having to commit to 1 character for the whole "season".

johnJrant · December 21

Solariken wrote: »

Yes, combine the queues and make it RNG which mode you get. 8v8 can be overwhelming but chaos can be fun too.

Re: the leaderboard, I mean the medal score accrual should go to your account, not individual characters. It would be nice to climb the leaderboard without having to commit to 1 character for the whole "season".

Do you generally play a lot on BG 4x4? I don't really understand why the hell you all want to remove the 4x4 mode or ruin the life of the players from there? No one is touching your 8x8 swamp anymore. You have rewards there, the same number of AP drops, now you want to get into the rating from the swamp? No. This definitely shouldn't be the case. Don't touch the 4x4 mode if it's difficult for you and you don't know how to play. I really don't understand why you are constantly trying to take something away from players who play well and constantly on BG because of weakness. If you can't do it in 4x4, don't touch this mode. There are many players who can.
Besides, why should players who don't care about your 8x8 escapades go there? You'll feel bad if we go in there. Very very bad. Stop asking to ruin the competitive mode. Are you currently in the top ranking? At the moment? Last week? If not, then don't touch the competition mode.

bladenick · December 21

8v8 is choas, and some how similar as former 4v4v4, and even more favor of opportunist than former 4v4v4, certain build is very easy to get good kill with ignore of objective, that far more difficult for 4v4

8v8 definilty shall not share the same leader board with 4v4

Avran_Sylt · December 21

My build works around whittling down targets from the back line as everyone is focused on an up close brawl.

Can’t easily do that in a 4v4.

I certainly don’t want team-sizes to be a random factor.

Solariken · December 21

johnJrant wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Yes, combine the queues and make it RNG which mode you get. 8v8 can be overwhelming but chaos can be fun too.

Re: the leaderboard, I mean the medal score accrual should go to your account, not individual characters. It would be nice to climb the leaderboard without having to commit to 1 character for the whole "season".

Do you generally play a lot on BG 4x4? I don't really understand why the hell you all want to remove the 4x4 mode or ruin the life of the players from there? No one is touching your 8x8 swamp anymore. You have rewards there, the same number of AP drops, now you want to get into the rating from the swamp? No. This definitely shouldn't be the case. Don't touch the 4x4 mode if it's difficult for you and you don't know how to play. I really don't understand why you are constantly trying to take something away from players who play well and constantly on BG because of weakness. If you can't do it in 4x4, don't touch this mode. There are many players who can.
Besides, why should players who don't care about your 8x8 escapades go there? You'll feel bad if we go in there. Very very bad. Stop asking to ruin the competitive mode. Are you currently in the top ranking? At the moment? Last week? If not, then don't touch the competition mode.

Lol no need to fire shots, I'm a BG OG and have been in since the dawn of time.

I play the 4's but prefer the 8's because it's more like the old days of Imperial City brawls. Also, healers are more OP in 4's and I don't care for the long slog fests where nobody dies.

But anyway I didn't say remove the 4's, I said combine with 8's and make it random. Hell, combine with 4v4v4 and also add 6v6 for all I care.

I just want games to pop faster and a leaderboard that doesn't punish is for playing multiple toons.

johnJrant · December 21

Solariken wrote: »

Lol no need to fire shots, I'm a BG OG and have been in since the dawn of time.

I play the 4's but prefer the 8's because it's more like the old days of Imperial City brawls. Also, healers are more OP in 4's and I don't care for the long slog fests where nobody dies.

But anyway I didn't say remove the 4's, I said combine with 8's and make it random. Hell, combine with 4v4v4 and also add 6v6 for all I care.

I just want games to pop faster and a leaderboard that doesn't punish is for playing multiple toons.

Now, due to the fact that the warden are *** BG, crosshill has risen very much. Because of this, the queue has increased. The problem is not two separate queues, but that someone cannot resist abusing the imbalance. There are really long queues this week. It's also the end of the year. But combining queues in 8x8 and 4x4 is not the way out of the temporary problem. There wasn't a long selection last week.

Chrisilis · December 21

Has anyone ever played an 8v8 group game? I see a lot of talk about 8v8 solo but 8 person groups? I find it hard to believe that queue is seeing a lot of action. Everyone talks about population. I never had a single problem getting into 4v4v4 match, ever. Sometimes the teams were full, sometimes there were three of us. On a few notable occasions I was alone. But Id get to play and it was fun even as a rare solo.

Everyone talks about ZoS taking forever to do anything with the feedback they receive. Well no wonder, theres as many suggestions as there are players. Im a fan of keeping it simple so heres my simple feedback.

Junk 8v8 group
Keep 8v8 solo
keep 4v4 solo and 4v4 group.
Turn 4v4v4 back on solo and group as is/was.

Fix the glaring issues w/ the new formats.

Everybody gets what they want, everybodys happy. I think the population can support that many queues especially if people can graduate from 8v8 to 4v4v4 to 4v4 competitive. Rank each que except for 8v8.

Avran_Sylt · December 21

Chrisilis wrote: »

Has anyone ever played an 8v8 group game? I see a lot of talk about 8v8 solo but 8 person groups? I find it hard to believe that queue is seeing a lot of action. Everyone talks about population. I never had a single problem getting into 4v4v4 match, ever. Sometimes the teams were full, sometimes there were three of us. On a few notable occasions I was alone. But Id get to play and it was fun even as a rare solo.

Everyone talks about ZoS taking forever to do anything with the feedback they receive. Well no wonder, theres as many suggestions as there are players. Im a fan of keeping it simple so heres my simple feedback.

Junk 8v8 group
Keep 8v8 solo
keep 4v4 solo and 4v4 group.
Turn 4v4v4 back on solo and group as is/was.

Fix the glaring issues w/ the new formats.

Everybody gets what they want, everybodys happy. I think the population can support that many queues especially if people can graduate from 8v8 to 4v4v4 to 4v4 competitive. Rank each que except for 8v8.

PCNA around the evening I get decently quick matches (about 5minutes to queue). Some familiar faces so I imagine the population is still rather abysmal. I can only imagine it’s worse in other regions.

Solariken · December 21

Chrisilis wrote: »

Has anyone ever played an 8v8 group game? I see a lot of talk about 8v8 solo but 8 person groups? I find it hard to believe that queue is seeing a lot of action. Everyone talks about population. I never had a single problem getting into 4v4v4 match, ever. Sometimes the teams were full, sometimes there were three of us. On a few notable occasions I was alone. But Id get to play and it was fun even as a rare solo.

Everyone talks about ZoS taking forever to do anything with the feedback they receive. Well no wonder, theres as many suggestions as there are players. Im a fan of keeping it simple so heres my simple feedback.

Junk 8v8 group
Keep 8v8 solo
keep 4v4 solo and 4v4 group.
Turn 4v4v4 back on solo and group as is/was.

Fix the glaring issues w/ the new formats.

Everybody gets what they want, everybodys happy. I think the population can support that many queues especially if people can graduate from 8v8 to 4v4v4 to 4v4 competitive. Rank each que except for 8v8.

The main driver for my OP is that there are too many queues. We need ONE solo random queue for the healthiest experience.

Group queue should not exist. Group games should be a custom lobby without mailed rewards but instead use a gold wager system (ie each player + the house puts up X gold and the winning team splits the pot).

bladenick · December 23

Solariken wrote: »

Chrisilis wrote: »

Has anyone ever played an 8v8 group game? I see a lot of talk about 8v8 solo but 8 person groups? I find it hard to believe that queue is seeing a lot of action. Everyone talks about population. I never had a single problem getting into 4v4v4 match, ever. Sometimes the teams were full, sometimes there were three of us. On a few notable occasions I was alone. But Id get to play and it was fun even as a rare solo.

Everyone talks about ZoS taking forever to do anything with the feedback they receive. Well no wonder, theres as many suggestions as there are players. Im a fan of keeping it simple so heres my simple feedback.

Junk 8v8 group
Keep 8v8 solo
keep 4v4 solo and 4v4 group.
Turn 4v4v4 back on solo and group as is/was.

Fix the glaring issues w/ the new formats.

Everybody gets what they want, everybodys happy. I think the population can support that many queues especially if people can graduate from 8v8 to 4v4v4 to 4v4 competitive. Rank each que except for 8v8.

The main driver for my OP is that there are too many queues. We need ONE solo random queue for the healthiest experience.

Group queue should not exist. Group games should be a custom lobby without mailed rewards but instead use a gold wager system (ie each player + the house puts up X gold and the winning team splits the pot).

Good idea, remove group queue, and only keep solo, the initial idea for queue is organized solo play to get random group.

For premade group, just need a self organizing lobby,